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(Message started by: maryl on May 4^th, 2003, 2:26pm)

Title: Defeated
Post by maryl on May 4^th, 2003, 2:26pm

I have defeated giants in the earliest years of war;
Built castles, and buried the poor.
Crossed above waves from the tinyest shore
To sink in a bed at the ocean's floor.

What am I?

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by tobetobeor on May 4^th, 2003, 2:54pm

Time

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by Icarus on May 4^th, 2003, 7:30pm

Time doesn't fit the last two stanzas. How about [hide]silt[/hide]?

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by wowbagger on May 5^th, 2003, 4:03am

on 05/04/03 at 19:30:36, Icarus wrote:

How about [hidden]?

Doesn't fit the first two lines well, I think.
How about [hide]stone[/hide]?

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by jon_G on May 5^th, 2003, 1:36pm

Either wowbagger's guess or [hide]sand[/hide].

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by aero_guy on May 10^th, 2003, 1:02pm

wowbagger had it I think. Think about a certain biblical story with a sling and the first line gives it all away.

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by asdf on Jun 13^th, 2003, 1:40pm

dude it's a [hide] rock [/hide] (or stone, whatever). i havent heard of goliath slain by sand, or buildings built with silt

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by Icarus on Jun 13^th, 2003, 8:02pm

Let's see - Aero guy - who mentions the Goliath connection, said that Wowbagger had it.
What was Wowbagger's answer? Stone, not sand or silt.

So what was the point of your post?

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by zero on Jun 30^th, 2003, 6:47pm

technically sand is rock/stone

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by wowbagger on Jul 1^st, 2003, 2:07am

on 06/30/03 at 18:47:01, zero wrote:

technically sand is rock/stone

Do you mean chemically? Physically, it obviously isn't.

OALD:
rock: 1 [U, C] the hard solid material that forms part of the surface of the earth and some other planets
sand: 1 [U] a substance that consists of very small fine grains of rock

M-W:
rock: 1 : a large mass of stone forming a cliff, promontory, or peak; 2 : a concreted mass of stony material; also : broken pieces of such masses; 3 : consolidated or unconsolidated solid mineral matter; also : a particular mass of it; 4 a : something like a rock in firmness
sand: 1 a : a loose granular material that results from the disintegration of rocks, consists of particles smaller than gravel but coarser than silt

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by Chewdogscp on Jul 15^th, 2003, 4:55pm

Wow that's why you're the uberpuzzler...... and by the way I think he ment chemically

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by Icarus on Jul 15^th, 2003, 6:44pm

on 07/01/03 at 02:07:13, wowbagger wrote:

OALD:
sand: 1 [U] a substance that consists of very small fine grains of rock

How is sand NOT rock physically?

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by wowbagger on Jul 16^th, 2003, 3:56am

on 07/15/03 at 18:44:49, Icarus wrote:

How is sand NOT rock physically?

I was aiming at the fact that both sand and rock may be built up of the same (chemical) material, but they have very different physical properties, due to the size of the grains of sand. Actually, there is a scientific discipline dealing with properties of granular matter, both on its own and in combination with fluids.
Links:
Introduction (http://www.phys.ntnu.no/~fossumj/cpx/granular_e.php3),
Experiments (some with MPEG movies) (http://physics.clarku.edu/~akudrolli/granular.html),
Nice pictures (follow the links) (http://stilton.tn.utwente.nl/people/rene/Granular.html).

For a lot of microscope pictures of different sands, click here (http://www.paccd.cc.ca.us/instadmn/physcidv/geol_dp/dndougla/SAND/SANDNDX.HTM) or here (with text) (http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artjun01/clsand.html).

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by Icarus on Jul 16^th, 2003, 3:59pm

I would say (and OALD agrees) that sand consists of small grains of rock. Thus sand is a form of rock. "Chemically the same" refers to equivalence on a smaller level yet. But all of this is just splitting hairs, so it doesn't bother me whether or not you agree. :)

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by wowbagger on Jul 17^th, 2003, 3:34am

on 07/16/03 at 15:59:22, Icarus wrote:

Thus sand is a form of rock.

Rock can be a form of sand, too: sandstone. :D

Quote:

But all of this is just splitting hairs, so it doesn't bother me whether or not you agree. :)

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by zero on Jul 19^th, 2003, 3:30pm

I always thought that sand was eroded rock particuls. :-[
So i thought sand=small rocks but isn't that true though ?

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by Brian on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 5:44am

None of that is important. What we should all rejoice is the fact that someone managed to try to answer yet another riddle with "Time"

Title: Re: Defeated
Post by maryl on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 3:43pm

Ya, ha, they say Time heals all wounds; I guess they figure it solves all problems too.