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Title: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 18th, 2008, 9:07pm There A dead man was found impaled on a statue under his room, which was on the twentieth story. There was a suicide note found in his room, along with sleeping pills, which were found in his bloodstream, implying that he had taken sleeping pills and thrown himself from the window. The room was closed and the door locked. It was determined that the dead man was the only one in the room before the death. However, a detective on the scene was sure it wasn't, and sure enough, he proved it to be a murder. How? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Grimbal on Apr 19th, 2008, 1:30am [hide]The jump (at least the landing) must have been instant death. If there is soporific in the bloodstream, it must have been there before he jumped to death. But then he couldn't have jumped.[/hide] |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by gotit on Apr 19th, 2008, 1:55am [hide]Why will he consume sleeping pills and then jump out? Either one of them would have been enough to kill him.[/hide] |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by pscoe2 on Apr 19th, 2008, 7:56am the pills were found in his blood stream.....on the ground floor!!! if he had taken them they would be in the room only and not in the blood stream... also it is not given from which side the door was locked...it may have been locked from the outside by the person who had given him the pills and put him a place where he wud fall on going to sleep.... finally was the window open???...it is not given.... |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 19th, 2008, 8:54am on 04/19/08 at 07:56:15, pscoe2 wrote:
The window was open. It looked in every way a suicide |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 19th, 2008, 12:50pm The handwriting wasn’t his. Or he was Siamese twin. Or he was hypnotized. Or these sleeping pills work real fast so he didn’t had time to jump through the window. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 19th, 2008, 12:52pm If the detective proved it, that means he must’ve found hard data. So the evidence was........ fingerprints? Or the name of this hotel is I’m a happy man, so this looked suspicious to the detective from the beginning; thus he investigated further & found proper evidence. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by tohuvabohu on Apr 19th, 2008, 2:43pm The depth to which the statue penetrated his body proved he had only fallen less than 5 stories. The window in his room still had a screen on it, and it was too small for him to fit through. The room was locked, but the key was neither in the room or on his body. The sleeping pills in his bloodstream, not his stomach, proved he had taken them long before he fell. There was sleeping pill residue in a wine bottle in his room proving he was drugged. The sleeping pills were a prescription made out to his wife's lover, who had a room on the fourth floor. The signature at the bottom of the suicide note looked like a scribble, but it was actually Sanskrit for "Bob killed me." The manager of the hotel was a pervert who had hidden cameras in every room, and he got it all on tape. The people staying in the room next door, with paper thin walls, heard the suicide note being dictated, followed by a gunshot. An autopsy showed that the statue piercing wound actually masked the bullet hole that really killed him. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Grimbal on Apr 19th, 2008, 4:19pm on 04/19/08 at 08:54:35, cheesepuff wrote:
That means no single detail tells otherwise. on 04/18/08 at 21:07:08, cheesepuff wrote:
If nothing can give the murder away but the detective knows it is murder, he must have done it. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Grimbal on Apr 19th, 2008, 4:28pm A hundred guests at a garden party saw the inert body being thrown down by a man on the balcony. He lay on the ground and the statue has been thrown after him. The sleeping pills were surgically inserted in his bloodstream, blocking the arteries to the brain. The man's head was still on the bed in the room. He was also stabbed 12 times in the back with a large knife. on 04/19/08 at 14:43:47, tohuvabohu wrote:
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Qaster Qof Qeverything Q42 on Apr 19th, 2008, 6:13pm The statue materialized around him. Occum's razor to you. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 20th, 2008, 6:36am He was killed by a mutated pigeon or an eagle. He had a rabbit for the pet. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 20th, 2008, 6:39am Since the door was locked, then we should assume that the murder occurred at night, as someone climbed down from the above story. This is why the door was locked from the inside and the window was wide open. So the detective checked the above room and found certain evidence, like rope and stuff. Or a sniper got him from hotel across the street. He was the only one in the room before the death, so the killer was waiting for him on the ledge. He lured him to the window by imitating a bird. ......coincidently, he drank the pills as he wanted to commit suicide, but the killer didn’t know this. Or these particular sleeping pills can be bought only in Australia? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by thecow135 on Apr 20th, 2008, 11:25am isn't this that one sherlock holmes one? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 20th, 2008, 11:27am If it is we better start our brains for real. :P |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 20th, 2008, 11:30am ..........from the information that was given, I’ve deduced, together with Grimbal, that the detective is the culprit. Elementary, dear Watson, elementary. 8) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 20th, 2008, 12:18pm try it out for yourself. And the sleeping pills were not injected or anything. They entered through his mouth. No one else was in the room for the previous few hours. the murderer was also no int and of the rooms above or below him. So how do you drop someone onto something directly below without being directly above? ;) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by thecow135 on Apr 20th, 2008, 1:08pm you drop him from below! |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 20th, 2008, 2:31pm on 04/20/08 at 12:18:52, cheesepuff wrote:
oh and when I say try it out for yourself its at your own risk. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 20th, 2008, 4:01pm on 04/20/08 at 12:18:52, cheesepuff wrote:
He dropped him off the roof? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 20th, 2008, 5:41pm on 04/20/08 at 16:01:52, Iceman wrote:
nope |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by denis on Apr 20th, 2008, 6:44pm on 04/20/08 at 12:18:52, cheesepuff wrote:
The murderer phoned him? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 20th, 2008, 6:47pm on 04/20/08 at 18:44:27, denis wrote:
No. He isn't suicidal by the way. He was dropped by the murderer after being fed sleeping pills. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by gotit on Apr 21st, 2008, 6:41am Was there a [hide]alarm clock[/hide] in the room? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 21st, 2008, 10:28am no alarm clock. Think about it. the answer is pretty simple and realistic. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 21st, 2008, 2:28pm Something was holding him for three hours, preventing him from falling. When it finally broke, he fell on the statue below. Or the killer drugged him and left him on the ledge. When he woke up, all drowsy, he fell, so it looked like a suicide. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 21st, 2008, 6:22pm nope. he was dropped and immediately hit the statue and got gruesomely impaled :) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by iono on Apr 21st, 2008, 8:47pm He couldn't have jumped out himself, if the atatue was directly below him. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 21st, 2008, 9:31pm He didn't jump. He was dropped. Just not from his room or a room above or below. ;) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by gotit on Apr 21st, 2008, 10:42pm He was dropped from a helicopoter. 8) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Grimbal on Apr 22nd, 2008, 6:21am The statue was charged for murder. See, they get a bonus for handling difficult cases. A suicide pays nothing. A murder makes a difference at the end of the month. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 22nd, 2008, 6:43am Maybe the statue was gargoyle. :P |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 7:58am Nope. no helicopters. oh and the statue was a gargoyle. :) but that's not important |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 7:59am and it was actually a murder. no conspiricies (sorry I can't spell) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by gotit on Apr 22nd, 2008, 8:19am He was dropped from a house on the same floor in the adjoining building. The statue was midway between the two buildings. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 9:11am hint: the detective found a mattress next to the statue. this is not necessary to the riddle but its a big clue |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 22nd, 2008, 9:59am on 04/22/08 at 09:11:45, cheesepuff wrote:
And I thought that the killer used the parachute. :P |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 10:13am No parachute. Too dangerous. hint hint |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 22nd, 2008, 10:20am Maybe he had split personality. :-[ |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 22nd, 2008, 11:38am Is the killer an acrobat? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Azgard on Apr 22nd, 2008, 12:57pm The killer thought the guy wouldn't get hurt because he thought the mattress was like the magic carpet from Aladdin... :P |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 1:19pm The killer was strong enough to lift him, but not acrobatic. And the mattress is just a mattress the killer also threw. But why? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Azgard on Apr 22nd, 2008, 1:22pm So that the killer could get out of the room through the already open window and land safe(ish)ly on the mattress. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 22nd, 2008, 2:18pm The killer was hiding inside the mattress. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 2:20pm on 04/22/08 at 13:22:30, Azgard wrote:
The killer was never in the room. And a mattress wouldn't help a fall from twenty stories on 04/22/08 at 14:18:10, Iceman wrote:
No. The answer to this riddle is perfectly normal |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 22nd, 2008, 2:27pm on 04/22/08 at 14:20:21, cheesepuff wrote:
Where was he then, on the ledge? Perhaps there is another building really close to the hotel. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 2:34pm on 04/22/08 at 14:27:43, Iceman wrote:
I guess you're sorta getting there. He wasn't in another building though. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 22nd, 2008, 4:17pm I suppose he wasn’t on window cleaning platform. Heh, perhaps I’m getting nowhere instead. It happens when your mind turns to clay. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 4:30pm No on the window cleaning platform. There was none or else they would have seen how the murder was done. And it wasn't very elaborate. it was a simple drop. So the question is how and from where? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 8:22pm on 04/22/08 at 10:13:35, cheesepuff wrote:
hint hint hint hint. Think about it. ::) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Azgard on Apr 22nd, 2008, 8:25pm on 04/22/08 at 20:22:00, cheesepuff wrote:
Dangerous as 'he might be seen' or physically dangerous? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by iono on Apr 22nd, 2008, 8:40pm the guy was sleeping when he was murdered? the sleeping pills and matress.... |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 22nd, 2008, 8:43pm Dangerous as in physically dangerous. And no, he was not thrown down with the mattress. The mattress was thrown down first. People reported seeing a mattress fall, then about ten minutes later the body fell |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by gotit on Apr 22nd, 2008, 10:54pm on 04/22/08 at 14:27:43, Iceman wrote:
I already mentioned about another building nearby and got no response. Anyways, the body was dropped from a room in a nearby building. The mattress was dropped because the murderer wanted people to think that the man was out of his senses and wanted to sleep in open air. So he dropped the mattress and then jumped. But the detective found that no matress was missing from the victim's house and therefore he must hava been dropped by someone else from some other room. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Azgard on Apr 23rd, 2008, 6:28am But how do we (or how did the detective) know that the mattress actually has some bearing on the case at hand? Do the two have to be related? |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 23rd, 2008, 8:41am on 04/22/08 at 22:54:42, gotit wrote:
Sorry about that. He was dropped from the same building. Its possible to drop the guy from a different building but its easier for the murderer to drop the guy from the same building. on 04/23/08 at 06:28:16, Azgard wrote:
Think of the mattress as a [hide]test[/hide] |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Azgard on Apr 23rd, 2008, 8:50am on 04/23/08 at 08:41:41, cheesepuff wrote:
??? You are sitting there watching us squirm and think hard in circles all around the answer without actually getting it, and you are laughing at us, aren't you? :-[ Ahh, to be the author (or at least poster) of a riddle... I'd be smiling too... 8) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 23rd, 2008, 10:20am on 04/23/08 at 08:50:24, Azgard wrote:
I feel a little like Iceman. oh by the way, one of my friend's legal name is Iceman. I told you if you actually try it out you should know. Especially if you were watching the news..... |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 23rd, 2008, 8:00pm A specific part of the news ::) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by JiNbOtAk on Apr 23rd, 2008, 9:32pm So, the mattress is thrown out as a test. Could be a test of : 1) Bounciness. If the mattress didn't bounce, the body most probably wouldnt. 2) Blood splatter. If the water bed mattress did not pierce, and water does not spill on the ground, the body would probably not bleed too much. 3) If people do not notice him hauling an 8 inch thick mattress, most probably they wouldn't notice him throwing a guy off. 4) The killer is the housekeeping staff. Nuff said.. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 23rd, 2008, 11:30pm Nope. the mattress is a test to see if it will hi.... wow I almost gave it away... and the killer was a friend of his. He threw him from a place with no one else. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by gotit on Apr 23rd, 2008, 11:45pm The matress is a test to see if it will hit the statue? And he threw him from his own house which was in the same floor. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Grimbal on Apr 24th, 2008, 1:33am The killer wanted to dive in the swimming pool. He tried first with a mattress to see how much horizontal speed it needs. Ooops, fell on the lawn. He then tried with this pal who was on sleeping pills. Oops, fell on the statue. At that point he knew enough and dived into the swimming pool. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 24th, 2008, 9:54am on 04/23/08 at 23:45:15, gotit wrote:
yes but how did it hit the statue if he wasn't direcly above. he was actually five rooms over to the right |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 24th, 2008, 10:32am It was a portable statue from the future. :P |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by denis on Apr 24th, 2008, 10:40am He threw the mattress between the statue and murderer's room (about half way horizontally). Then he threw the body onto the mattress which bounced onto the statue. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 24th, 2008, 10:51am The mattress was directly below the statue; so no way he could throw the mattress from above the statue, as there was no strong wind. 8) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 24th, 2008, 2:07pm on 04/24/08 at 10:51:36, Iceman wrote:
Oh my GOD So close......... I was like one of those moments where you think the other person is at the answer: "Ok so it was..." "yes, Yes!, YESS!!!!" "The bald man" "OH no!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 24th, 2008, 3:06pm I’m close? Heh, perhaps some other bold riddler can nail this one. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 24th, 2008, 3:13pm The wind was really strong that day, so the killer 1st threw the mattress, to see whether the wind will take it to all the way to the gargoyle. So the statue is not directly below the above room, rather a few meters on the left. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 24th, 2008, 3:26pm on 04/24/08 at 15:13:57, Iceman wrote:
You got it |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 24th, 2008, 3:32pm The killer is a Klingon and he hates comfortable beds. Or the culprit was human without honor, so he put something on the ledge of the victim’s room, to lure him. I tell you, if he put beer I would go for it too. But, he glued the beer on the ledge with super glue, and then he released the mattress from above room. The mattress hit him on the head, and so he lost balance and fell. Then the killer went down and put some pills in dead man’s body, to look like he wanted to kill himself. This happened at night. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Iceman on Apr 24th, 2008, 3:33pm on 04/24/08 at 15:26:54, cheesepuff wrote:
Really? Yay! 8) |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Apr 24th, 2008, 5:10pm on 04/24/08 at 15:32:31, Iceman wrote:
I like this explanation though |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by Eigenray on Jun 23rd, 2008, 12:11am I think there are similarities with [link=http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/72/]this episode[/link]. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by NightBreeze on Jun 23rd, 2008, 3:10am on 04/24/08 at 15:13:57, Iceman wrote:
This does not make sense. I don't see any reason why a suicidal person wouldn't test the wind as well. If the killer is mad enough to want to impale the guy on a statue instead of just letting him splatter all over the ground, then surely we may assume some reason for a suicidal maniac to want that as well. |
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Title: Re: Closed Room Hotel Drop Post by cheesepuff on Jun 23rd, 2008, 4:40pm I decided not to include the rest of the episode. I liked just the wind blowing the body part. Night Breeze.... Yeah, you're probably right, so we just have to assume the victim wasn't crazy, because he was last seen drinking with his friend or something. I just thought my riddle was harder than asking why a body was landed 10 feet to the left from which it was thrown... |
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