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(Message started by: Iceman on Mar 19th, 2008, 10:19am)

Title: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Mar 19th, 2008, 10:19am
After the Janis case, which is clearly a part of detective's fame, Somerset is up against another challenge. It's the newest murder case of a woman, and everything indicates that she was killed by the killer nicknamed Chucky. Her body was found in the river, and the police couldn't make a positive ID, because the computer didn't pop out anything and her face was skinned. There were two notes, one in each hand. One said 'I want to complete my masterpiece. Do you know what it is, Somerset?' The other was 'I want you to find me, detective.' The body was thoroughly examined in the lab, and following objects were found in her stomach: death's-head Hawkmoth, which is killer's trademark, and the Mars symbol, both in a little balloon. The symbol is referring to the male sex.

Somerset and Chucky were dancing like this for several years now, as almost every time a woman was killed, the killer left a note to the detective, and always a thrutful one. The 1st note ever said 'Hello, detective Somerset. I know you're thinking of me, because you are investigating my work. I'm thinking of you as well. You will be my liberator.' The 2nd note said 'I've put a souvenir under my skin, the Venus symbol.'  And from a few notes the detective concluded, and rightfully so, that this was murderer's last misdeed. He also inferred that the killer wants to change, transform, although he wasn't sure into what exactly.  

The detective thought about it for some time, and then it hit him, and he realized where the culprit is. Mind you, it wasn't because the killer was sloppy. From the information that was given, can you explain it?

Title: Re: Seven 2: death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by iono on Mar 19th, 2008, 7:54pm
He found that the mars symbol is one-of-a-kind, and there is a complimentary venus symbol, both bought by the same guy from a highly publicized auction, so he just arrested the guy who owns the venus symbol?

Title: Re: Seven 2: death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Mar 19th, 2008, 7:58pm
Nothing like so.

Title: Re: Seven 2: death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by thecow135 on Mar 19th, 2008, 9:17pm
he got a sex change!

Title: Re: Seven 2: death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Ghost Sniper on Mar 20th, 2008, 8:30am
Maybe a hermaphrodite.

Title: Re: Seven 2: death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Mar 20th, 2008, 12:47pm
Care to elaborate? I'm simply not sure what exactly you're trying to suggest, and that means something. ;)

Title: Re: Seven 2: death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by iono on Mar 20th, 2008, 5:22pm
Was the killers 1st murder in a souviner shop?

Title: Re: Seven 2: death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Mar 20th, 2008, 9:36pm
Nope. Focus on what was said.  

Title: Re: Seven 2: death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Ghost Sniper on Mar 21st, 2008, 8:32am
Hermaphrodite: A plant or animal that has both male and female characteristics.

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Mar 23rd, 2008, 2:30pm
So what about it? We need solidarity here, that is, details.

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 8th, 2008, 3:10pm
No ideas, eh? I find that interesting because earlier few guesses were kind of on the right track. Maybe this is just the case of riddler's myopia.  ::)

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by gotit on Apr 9th, 2008, 8:34am
[hide]May be the killer was suffering from a disease in which the person starts developing traits of the opposite sex.[/hide]

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by denis on Apr 9th, 2008, 8:40am
[hide]Somerset is looking at the body of the killer. Chucky is the latest victim. (The killer is a woman, after a sex change, and she/he committed suicide). [/hide]

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Azgard on Apr 9th, 2008, 11:36am
Is the Venus symbol put under the skin referring to a tattoo?

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by lopsidation on Apr 9th, 2008, 4:16pm
Is Chucky Somerset's [hide]brother or sister?[/hide]

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 10th, 2008, 4:31am

on 04/09/08 at 08:34:39, gotit wrote:
[hide]May be the killer was suffering from a disease in which the person starts developing traits of the opposite sex.[/hide]

The killer wasn’t suffering from a physical disease.



on 04/09/08 at 08:40:16, denis wrote:
[hide]Somerset is looking at the body of the killer. Chucky is the latest victim. (The killer is a woman, after a sex change, and she/he committed suicide). [/hide]

Well, this is certainly close, but there was no sex change. So, who was the killer? Btw, it is pretty hard to skin your own face, no matter how crazy you are.



on 04/09/08 at 11:36:50, Azgard wrote:
Is the Venus symbol put under the skin referring to a tattoo?

This is also an important part in Somerset solving the case.



on 04/09/08 at 16:16:20, lopsidation wrote:
Is Chucky Somerset's [hide]brother or sister?[/hide]

No.

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by gotit on Apr 10th, 2008, 4:55am
[hide]The killer was a doctor who specialized in sex change. And after performing the sex change, he/she killed his/her patients and cut their body parts as a souvenir.[/hide]

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 10th, 2008, 5:36am
Enough with sex change already.  ::)

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 10th, 2008, 5:39am
Btw, hard evidence isn’t required here, just Somerset’s revelation.  

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 10th, 2008, 5:50am

on 04/09/08 at 08:40:16, denis wrote:
[hide]Somerset is looking at the body of the killer. Chucky is the latest victim. (The killer is a woman, after a sex change, and she/he committed suicide). [/hide]

You practically got it, but you need to polish your answer a bit, or a lot. It depends how meticulous you are. And let me say again: no sex change, no hermaphrodites, and I don’t know what.

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by gotit on Apr 10th, 2008, 5:51am
Did the killer have a tatto of a human skull on his chest ?

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 10th, 2008, 5:53am
Why would he have a tattoo of a skull on his chest? Perhaps he had something under his skin instead.

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by gotit on Apr 10th, 2008, 5:59am
What about [hide]Skin Grafting[/hide]?

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 10th, 2008, 6:57am
No skin grafting either. So the killer must be....... who then? You know, it looks to me that you’re a slave to stereotype. Stereotype is fine as long as it doesn’t interfere with a riddle.  ;)

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 10th, 2008, 6:59am
Btw, [hide]the killer knew another killer[/hide].

Somebody answer this one so we can focus on less morbid riddles.  

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by gotit on Apr 10th, 2008, 7:10am
It sounds like the movie SAW 4

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by gotit on Apr 10th, 2008, 7:24am
[hide]The second killer was Somerset. The first killer knew about Somerset's crimes and was reminding him of it through his own crimes.[/hide]

My guess may be wrong but I guess it is not stereotyped any more, eh Icey? ;)

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 10th, 2008, 8:25am
........ you’re right about the stereotype part, but that’s not it either. Some other stereotype, perhaps?  :P

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by JiNbOtAk on Apr 10th, 2008, 8:29pm
The killer is an albino.

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 13th, 2008, 10:01pm
Nope. Some of the answers are really close, so some other stereotype, perhaps? Hm..



Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 13th, 2008, 10:03pm
Btw, don’t let the nickname confuse you.  ;)

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by gotit on Apr 13th, 2008, 11:43pm
[hide]Siamese Twins? May be the body was of one of the twins and the killer was the other one.[/hide]

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 13th, 2008, 11:59pm
I clearly said that it's the newest murder case of a woman, not hermaphrodite, not Siamese twin or I don’t know what. So, isn’t the stereotype obvious now? Two killers are involved here. So what happened? I can tell you if you ask me nicely.

::)

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Ghost Sniper on Apr 14th, 2008, 12:36pm
Do you read James patterson novels, Icey?

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 14th, 2008, 1:49pm
What about it?

Btw, I red my last book several years ago. I kind of lost interest in books, which is a shame, but it is what it is.  

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by JiNbOtAk on Apr 16th, 2008, 7:14pm
Hint for the stereotype :

[hide]How do you commit suicide, without killing yourself ? [/hide]

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by gotit on Apr 17th, 2008, 3:39am
I will force someone to kill me.

OR

I will commit a murder and inform the police about it.

OR

I will marry my girlfriend :P

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 17th, 2008, 3:57am

on 04/17/08 at 03:39:11, gotit wrote:
I will force someone to kill me.

Yup.

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 17th, 2008, 9:09am
Heh, are there women on this forum who want to be men?

::)

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by cheesepuff on Apr 18th, 2008, 9:43am
Skiining faces? sounds a little like Silence of the Lambs. Is he gonna start eating people now?

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 18th, 2008, 9:54am
Oh I see. You want another riddle of mine. I can’t blame you. Later.

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by Iceman on Apr 18th, 2008, 3:23pm

on 04/18/08 at 09:43:59, cheesepuff wrote:
Skiining faces? sounds a little like Silence of the Lambs.

So, do you prefer Silence of the lambs or gore riddles of mine? Oh boy. Probably the movie, eh?


::)

Title: Re: Death's-head Hawkmoth
Post by cheesepuff on Apr 18th, 2008, 8:37pm
Oh I don't know. Something about keeping a garage filled with dead things makes me oh so happy ;D



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