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(Message started by: Iceman on Aug 21st, 2007, 9:25am)
Title: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 21st, 2007, 9:25am
Dean's and Martin's father, Montgomery Morton, has passed away. In his will, Montgomery says that Martin must be alone in his mansion called Haunted mansion, for two weeks. All that he can bring are food and clothes, and when he is ready, the lawyer will lock mansion's gate, which is the only way in and out. Another thing is, that all doors must be unlocked, and there mustn't be any keys for the duration of the visit, as the lawyer has all mansions' keys in his possession. And core of Montgomery's will is that Martin mustn't enter Montgomery's study, where Montgomery used to spend a lot of his spare time. So if Martin enters this room, laser beams will trigger an electronic signal, which the lawyer will get right away, since he has the corresponding receiving device. If all goes as the will says, Martin will get the Haunted mansion, though his brother Dean will get a lot more, that is, 7 million dollars. The house is luxurious, but it represents more a sentimental value in comparison to the dollars, so both brothers prefer money. What happened is that Martin got the mansion because he entered the study, even though Dean didn't do anything, trickery or otherwise, and both rather intelligent brothers were in good physical health. But why?
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Grimbal on Aug 21st, 2007, 9:38am
If Martin didn't comply to the father's wishes, the disposition to give the money to Dean the the house to Martin is void.  They therefore both got half of both the money and the house, and in this case, Martin bought off Dean's half.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 21st, 2007, 10:53am
No. Martin got the mansion, and Dean got the money.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by gotit on Aug 21st, 2007, 11:23am
The question says that Martin got the house because he entered the study.I think the word because is important here.This is what I think:

The will mentioned that Martin should be alone in the mansion.Somehow,he came to know that their was someone else hiding in the study.He realized that this would violate the will.So he entered the study ,got hold of the man and informed the lawyer. He stayed in the house for two weeks after that and got the mansion.

You may argue that the laser beams would have detected the man in the study.One possible solution for this could be that laser beams were put at the entrance only and the man was there in the room before the laser was put there
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 21st, 2007, 11:34am
No. Martin was alone in the mansion. The lawyer was thorough, in that, he checked the mansion entirely before locking Martin in it.  ;)
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by denis on Aug 21st, 2007, 11:47am
So martin gets the mansion but the gate stays locked forever  :o

It is a haunted mansion after all. So Martin gets to spend the rest of his life with the Ghost of Montgomery, his dear departed father. I hope he brought enough food.   ;D
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 21st, 2007, 1:56pm
This isn't remake of Poltergeist. ::)Or is it?  ;)


Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 21st, 2007, 7:59pm
Martin has to spend 2 weeks in the mansion, but he musn't enter the study. If he follows the instruction, he'll get the house, Dean will get the money. They both prefer to have the money. Hmm..

I think it is in Dean's best interest for Martin to adhere to the will, not go against it. What was the will's provision if Martin were to break any of the rules ? ( enter the study, bring someone along, etc )

Or maybe Martin went into the study, found a newer, holographic will that leaves the money to Dean, the house to him, irrelevant of any other stipulations ?
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Grimbal on Aug 22nd, 2007, 12:25am
Martin is the ghost haunting the mansion.
And ghosts don't trigger laser.  They have nothing against lasers, but it is in their nature.

Or

Martin is a rebel.  He enters the study just because he is told not to.  He has nothing against rules, but it is in his nature.  He is careful to remove the fuses first, though.

In the study he finds a testament which, being more recent, obsoletes the other one.  It says: "Congratulations!  I am happy to see you are a rebel, like me.  I won't cut you out of my will.  But... you get the house anyway, and Dean gets the money.  I have nothing against you, but it is in my nature.  You see, Dean is my eldest son."
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by TheNumberScott on Aug 22nd, 2007, 12:55am
Grimbal, you're funny. I have nothing against you, it's just in your nature.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 7:44am
I had something else in mind.



I've modified a bit the end of the riddle. Perhaps that might be a clue to you..  ;)
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Grimbal on Aug 22nd, 2007, 1:13pm
Martin didn't enter "Montgomery's study, where Montgomery used to spend a lot of his spare time" but he entered "the study", the lawyer's one.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 1:25pm
No. It was Montgomery's study. Btw, the answer is [hide]a stupid one[/hide].  :-[  ;)
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by gotit on Aug 22nd, 2007, 3:32pm
The lawyer had switched off the receiving device thinking that Martin would not enter the study.

Is it more [hide]stupid[/hide] than this???
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by denis on Aug 22nd, 2007, 3:45pm
Are Dean and Martin twins?
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 4:04pm

on 08/22/07 at 15:45:53, denis wrote:
Are Dean and Martin twins?

No.



on 08/22/07 at 15:32:49, gotit wrote:
The lawyer had switched off the receiving device thinking that Martin would not enter the study.

Nothing like that.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by gotit on Aug 22nd, 2007, 4:15pm
[hide]Btw,what is the name of the lawyer?Don't tell me that it's Martin[/hide]
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 4:26pm
Nah.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by gotit on Aug 22nd, 2007, 4:48pm
You said that there was some clue in the end of the riddle. [hide]Do you want to indicate that Martin entered the study inspite of being intelligent?[/hide]
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:10am
Something like that. Maybe.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:32am
The lawyer called the house to let Martin know that he had only a week left in the house.  The only phone was in the study.

Or, since there is nothing else to do in a haunted mansion for two weeks, Martin gets plastered, then stumbles into the study because it is in his nature to stumble drunkenly into studies.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 23rd, 2007, 2:22pm

on 08/23/07 at 11:32:41, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:
The lawyer called the house to let Martin know that he had only a week left in the house.  The only phone was in the study.

No phones either.



on 08/23/07 at 11:32:41, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:
Or, since there is nothing else to do in a haunted mansion for two weeks, Martin gets plastered, then stumbles into the study because it is in his nature to stumble drunkenly into studies.

No, but you are on the right track.. ;)
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by gotit on Aug 23rd, 2007, 2:35pm
What is the meaning of the word 'palstered'?My english is not that strong.Does it mean the plaster that we put on our fractured body parts?
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 23rd, 2007, 2:45pm

Quote:
Btw, the answer is a [hide]stupid[/hide] one.


Mashed Potato. I'm stumped for an actual answer for now.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 23rd, 2007, 6:47pm
So, does Martin suffer from [hide]somnambulism[/hide] or [hide]noctambulism[/hide] ?  ;D
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by thecow135 on Aug 23rd, 2007, 7:00pm
he was high on life
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 24th, 2007, 7:50am

on 08/23/07 at 18:47:08, JiNbOtAk wrote:
So, does Martin suffer from [hide]somnambulism[/hide] or [hide]noctambulism[/hide] ?  ;D

Yes! I said that the answer is a stupid one, thus I am not surprised that JiNbOtAk has got it.  :P
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by TheNumberScott on Aug 24th, 2007, 10:54am
seems that saying he got the money "because" he entered the study, is a bit misleading, or perhaps just incorrect. Perhaps intentionally misleading?
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 24th, 2007, 11:11am
I said that Martin got the mansion, not money, because he entered the study.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by denis on Aug 24th, 2007, 11:18am
A better way to word it would be "despite the fact that he entered the study, Martin still got the mansion"
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by TheNumberScott on Aug 24th, 2007, 12:28pm
oh I see, so you meant that if martin didn't enter the study, he'd get the money, and his brother would get the mansion, and if he did enter the study, martin would get the mansion, and his brother would get the money.

I thought that if he entered the study, his brother would get both, and that he got the mansion anyways because he was just sleep walking, and that that didn't count or something.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 24th, 2007, 5:40pm

on 08/24/07 at 07:50:24, Iceman wrote:
Yes! I said that the answer is a stupid one, thus I am not surprised that JiNbOtAk has got it.  :P


Are you trying to insinuate that I'm only capable of answering your stupid riddles ?  ???
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 24th, 2007, 5:44pm
Seems as though he is. I wouldn't complain, two minds think alike, which means denis is in the same predicament.  ::) So it's now three.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by denis on Aug 24th, 2007, 5:56pm
This coming from someone who has yet to solve any of Icey's riddles before anyone else did.  
:-*

No worries. You'll get your day in the sun and join the club.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 24th, 2007, 6:08pm
Lol true, but it's a bit hard for me to get a response from him due to where I live, unlike most people who are able to get a response on the same day, I can't be on at the same time as him because of certain restrictions.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Aug 24th, 2007, 7:56pm

on 08/23/07 at 14:35:38, gotit wrote:
What is the meaning of the word 'palstered'?My english is not that strong.Does it mean the plaster that we put on our fractured body parts?


Plastered (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/plastered).  The third definition.  ;)
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 24th, 2007, 9:58pm

on 08/24/07 at 17:56:31, denis wrote:
No worries. You'll get your day in the sun and join the club.


Ah, so am I in the club now ? Or just the club for dumb riddles ?  ;D


on 08/24/07 at 18:08:20, mikedagr8 wrote:
Lol true, but it's a bit hard for me to get a response from him due to where I live, unlike most people who are able to get a response on the same day, I can't be on at the same time as him because of certain restrictions.


Well, I'm not exactly in the same timezone myself.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by Iceman on Aug 25th, 2007, 1:10pm

on 08/24/07 at 17:40:44, JiNbOtAk wrote:
Are you trying to insinuate that I'm only capable of answering your stupid riddles ?

No. That is just my way of saying that there are better riddles. ;)
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 25th, 2007, 2:25pm

Quote:
Well, I'm not exactly in the same timezone myself.


Yes, I know, just that when I need to go to sleep, for you it may only be 8pm or 9pm. So still plenty of time, but here it's getting closer to the next day, and I do have commitments, such as going to a meeting this morning at 8am my time.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by denis on Aug 25th, 2007, 8:49pm
IMHO, the timezone is only an issue for the Iceman Quiz where timing is everything to get your turn at opening a cell. For his other riddles which go on for days and sometimes weeks, it's really a question of luck and a bit of insight more than timing.
Title: Re: Haunted mansion
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 25th, 2007, 9:19pm
Yes very true, except I don't seem to have as much success with unlikely event riddles, but word association I find I'm quite strong in so that's where it counts.


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