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(Message started by: Iceman on Aug 6th, 2007, 9:17am)
Title: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 6th, 2007, 9:17am
Cassandra is in topnotch health, driving in a smallish car of hers, which only two people can occupy at a time. She sees two men, and stops the car, and soon she is driving in her car with one of them. If she didn't have her purse, with standard objects inside, he might have died. What happened?  
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 6th, 2007, 6:30pm
The guy is suffering from hypoglycemia, and Cassandra saved him by feeding him her private stash of Mars.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Aug 6th, 2007, 8:38pm
He needed a pocket mirror to suture himself.  8)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 6th, 2007, 11:28pm
WTF; WTF??? NICE though. No, one of them was fatally ill, she rang up the hospital on her phone, but the lines were jammed so she drove him to the hospital. Dont know if it would fit though in her purse.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 7th, 2007, 8:20am

on 08/06/07 at 18:30:14, JiNbOtAk wrote:
The guy is suffering from hypoglycemia, and Cassandra saved him by feeding him her private stash of Mars.

That isn't a standard object.



on 08/06/07 at 20:38:06, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:
He needed a pocket mirror to suture himself.  8)

No because cars have mirrors, like rear-view mirror, for instance.


Nice try both.  



on 08/06/07 at 23:28:02, mikedagr8 wrote:
No, one of them was fatally ill, she rang up the hospital on her phone, but the lines were jammed so she drove him to the hospital. Dont know if it would fit though in her purse.

I don't get the point you are making.

Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 8th, 2007, 5:10am
If Cassandra didn't have her driving license in her purse, she couldn't have driven and pick up the man.  As it happens, the second man was later murdered.  The first man would have been either murdered also or executed as the prime suspect for that murder.  But since Cassandra picked up the man (and they went to the yearly barbecue of the police), the man had a perfect alibi.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 8th, 2007, 7:08am
Nope.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 8th, 2007, 8:17am

on 08/06/07 at 20:38:06, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:
He needed a pocket mirror to suture himself.  8)

WTF's answer is a good try, but I mentioned two men, not just one. So because of the 2nd man, you're not the winner.  ;)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 8th, 2007, 8:54am
Cassandra got aids?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 8th, 2007, 9:05am

Good try, Grimbal. But one doesn't necessarily get the disease if there is no protection, so no.  
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 12th, 2007, 8:07pm
WTF is on the right track. Yep, we need some other version here, even though it might be a bit questionable. Just a bit. Then again, I'm not a woman, so maybe everything is just fine.  :-[  8)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 12th, 2007, 11:28pm

Quote:
Then again, I'm not a woman
or are you... only kidding i believe you.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Aug 13th, 2007, 9:59pm
A bit questionable, eh?  [hide]Perhaps she carried a sewing needle and thread then.[/hide]
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 13th, 2007, 11:01pm

on 08/13/07 at 21:59:00, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:
A bit questionable, eh?  [hide]Perhaps she carried a sewing needle and thread then.[/hide]


If those are considered standard items in a women's purse, so is the stash of Mars.  :P

Anyway, the guy had a huge zit, that's gonna pop at any moment, causing him to haemorrhage and die from the blood loss. Cassandra gave her [hide]lipstick[/hide] to put on the zit, so it won't pop.

What, you didn't know [hide]lipstick[/hide] is effective for zits ?   ::)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 14th, 2007, 12:48am
The guy is depressed (the other guy is his boyfriend and he misses him) and suicidal.  The standard item is an anti-depressor pill.

The guy owes $100'000 to the local mafia, and they are chasing him.  The standard item is the money.  Or a credit card.

The guy has drunk a lot and is about to light a cigarette.  The standard item is a nicotine patch.

The guy is hungry and the standard item is a sandwitch.

???
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by towr on Aug 14th, 2007, 1:01am
Maybe one of the guys couldn't breath and needed a tracheotomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracheotomy), and luckily by shoving part of a ballpoint pen into his neck to create a breathing hole she was able to safe his life.
Then she drove him to the hospital.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 14th, 2007, 3:03am
Actually, towr, that was my first thought too. ( That particular scene was depicted in a local movie here ) However, given the precision of the procedure ( the pen needs to go into the windpipe, rite ? ) and the will of actually stabbing yourself with a pen, I consider it very unlikely. But hey, with Icey, even a crowbar could create a spark enough to combust a man, so who knows ?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by towr on Aug 14th, 2007, 3:24am

on 08/14/07 at 03:03:48, JiNbOtAk wrote:
However, given the precision of the procedure ( the pen needs to go into the windpipe, rite ? ) and the will of actually stabbing yourself with a pen, I consider it very unlikely.
Well, I'd assume someone else would do the stabbing. Actually, you shouldn't stab with the pen-part, but first use a knive to make a cut; then use the pen to keep the hole open.
I'm not sure how much precission is needed, but for the sake of the story we might assume either the other man or the woman in the car knows enough first aid to accomplish it succesfully.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 14th, 2007, 3:38am

on 08/14/07 at 03:24:54, towr wrote:
Actually, you shouldn't stab with the pen-part, but first use a knive to make a cut; then use the pen to keep the hole open.


Really ? The movie I saw had the guy stabbed the lady with a pen right away.  ;D
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by towr on Aug 14th, 2007, 3:55am
Well, a pen isn't that sharp, so you'd need a lot more force.  Consequently you'd do a lot more collateral damage when just shoving the pen in, and with a knive you have better control about how deep/big a hole you make in someones windpipe.

Of course, if no knife or other sharp utensil is at hand, some collateral damage is better than death.

[e]Looking around the web a bit, it does not seem to be a recommended procedure. It's better left to professionals with proper equipment (well duh); in any case not something done at the descretion of bystanders that saw it in a movie once :P [/e]
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 14th, 2007, 4:53am
I believe there are movies that show things exactly how they are in real life.  I believe no TV and no cinema wants to actually show them.  This leaves us with the completely surrealistic but entertaining movies you see daily on TV.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 14th, 2007, 7:46am
No intended answer yet. WTF's answer is fine, but I hadn't that in mind.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 14th, 2007, 9:24am
Why do you mention that Cassandra is in topnotch health if it is one of the men who might have died?

And does the other man have a role in the solution?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 14th, 2007, 10:17am

on 08/14/07 at 09:24:14, Grimbal wrote:
And does the other man have a role in the solution?

Yes.




on 08/14/07 at 09:24:14, Grimbal wrote:
Why do you mention that Cassandra is in topnotch health if it is one of the men who might have died?

So you don't come up with the idea that she had pills in her purse.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Sameer on Aug 14th, 2007, 12:46pm
Is the event that she drives with one of them significant?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 14th, 2007, 1:52pm
I guess.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 14th, 2007, 3:49pm

on 08/14/07 at 10:17:17, Iceman wrote:
So you don't come up with the idea that she had pills in her purse.

But maybe she is in good health thanks to the many pills against all possible diseases that she carries with her.  By the way, she might be a medical doctor.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 14th, 2007, 4:38pm
Well, usually people who are in topnotch health carry no pills whatsoever. As for being a doctor, I thought that they have a separate bag with all the medicine inside, not a few pills in the purse. It doesn't look very feminine to me, to go on a date with a syringe in the purse. Then again, I'm not a female doctor, so I might be wrong. But it is real nice that we are exploring alternatives together. Live and learn.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by towr on Aug 15th, 2007, 12:44am

on 08/14/07 at 16:38:01, Iceman wrote:
Well, usually people who are in topnotch health carry no pills whatsoever.
Well, she is a woman; so there's a very good chance that she carries oral contraceptive. Although I suppose it does depend on what country this story takes place.
I wouldn't hazard to guess how that'd save a guys life though; well not in a direct manner anyway.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 15th, 2007, 12:50am

on 08/14/07 at 16:38:01, Iceman wrote:
It doesn't look very feminine to me, to go on a date with a syringe in the purse.

The riddle doesn't say Cassandra is feminine.  Female yes, but feminine?
And it doesn't look like a date.  It rather looks like she sees the two men by chance.

But we are not making much progress.

Did Cassandra have an apointment with the men?

Are they in a need for a lift?

Would she have picked up the other men if the car had been bigger?

Is the one man she picks up in life-threatening danger?

Is Cassandra driving the man to a hospital?

By purse, do you mean the flat thing where you put coins and credit cards?  Or something bigger, like a handbag.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 15th, 2007, 4:30am

on 08/15/07 at 00:50:37, Grimbal wrote:
Did Cassandra have an apointment with the men?

No.


on 08/15/07 at 00:50:37, Grimbal wrote:
Would she have picked up the other men if the car had been bigger?

Possibly, but probably not.



on 08/15/07 at 00:50:37, Grimbal wrote:
Is the one man she picks up in life-threatening danger?

Is Cassandra driving the man to a hospital?

Yes.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Sameer on Aug 15th, 2007, 8:41am
The man has a disease that doesn't enable clotting (I can't remember what it is called.. iron deficiency maybe) ... and he is bleeding profusely.. the woman gives the scarf to tie around the injury to minimize bleeding...

I know the solution sucks.. but trying anyways..
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by SMQ on Aug 15th, 2007, 8:49am

on 08/15/07 at 08:41:23, Sameer wrote:
the woman gives the scarf to tie around the injury to minimize bleeding...

Or, perhaps, an ... ahem ... feminine hygiene product (http://www.snopes.com/military/tampon.asp).

--SMQ
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by ima1trkpny on Aug 15th, 2007, 9:11am
Haha... SMQ beat me to it... but yeah, Feminine supplies, Diapers (maybe she had a baby?), etc. are all very effective means of creating pressure bandages in absense of more conventional medical supplies. As for the tracheotomy, not a bad idea... a pen knife is ideal as the first rule of medicine is "First, do no harm." but other than that it isn't too difficult a precedure if you keep your cool and don't have shaking hands, etc. and would be a suitable answer if the man was choking and had a complete blockage.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 15th, 2007, 9:32am
Not what I had in mind. The roles of both men must be described, not just one.  ;)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by ima1trkpny on Aug 15th, 2007, 9:51am
Ok, here goes... Man #1 was viciously stabbing Man #2 in a street fight. Cassandra stopped the car, pulled out her pepperspray and cell phone telling Man #1 she had called the cops as she sprayed at him. Man #1 is scared off by the prospect of getting caught/arrested and takes off. Cassandra doctors man #2's wounds with temperary dressings provided by the feminine supplies she has handy in her purse and then drives him to the hospital.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 15th, 2007, 10:41am
Not bad. The intended answer is still out there.  
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by ima1trkpny on Aug 15th, 2007, 10:50am
Hmmmm.... since it is Icey it must be something bizarre... (unless Icey has changed tactics since I've been gone?)
How about the two men were shooting victims and one man is already dead, thus she leaves him and pulls the critically injured one into the car, does her best to slow the bleeding and drives to the hospital as the cell phone reception is too spotty to call an ambulance?
I must confess I missed all the bizarre scenarios everyone comes up with to try and satisfy these riddles  ;D
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 15th, 2007, 11:27am
You are right about one thing ima1trkpny: [hide]one man is already dead. [/hide]It is getting hot now..  :o
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 15th, 2007, 1:59pm
In her purse she has her glasses.

She is already a terrible driver in normal conditions.  But if she had to drive without her glasses, panicked as she was, rushing to the hospital, well, you would consider the other man the lucky one.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 15th, 2007, 2:04pm
No. 20/20.  ;D
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by denis on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:19am
Was one of the two men a cop?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 16th, 2007, 10:32am
No, just little people.  :P
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 16th, 2007, 8:55pm

on 08/15/07 at 08:41:23, Sameer wrote:
The man has a disease that doesn't enable clotting (I can't remember what it is called.. iron deficiency maybe) ... and he is bleeding profusely.. the woman gives the scarf to tie around the injury to minimize bleeding...

I know the solution sucks.. but trying anyways..



Haemophilia, is that what you are looking for? ::)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 17th, 2007, 7:02am
Not necessarily. It could be a part of the whole picture, but it is not what I am looking for.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 17th, 2007, 7:39am
The purse, is it the thing where you put coins and credit cards, or a woman's handbag?

Lets call Al the man she picked up and Bill the one who died.
Did Al kill Bill?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 17th, 2007, 7:54am

on 08/17/07 at 07:39:11, Grimbal wrote:
The purse, is it the thing where you put coins and credit cards, or a woman's handbag?

The latter.



on 08/17/07 at 07:39:11, Grimbal wrote:
Did Al kill Bill?

It is possible, but it is unimportant for us.  
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by ima1trkpny on Aug 17th, 2007, 3:22pm

on 08/17/07 at 07:39:11, Grimbal wrote:
The purse, is it the thing where you put coins and credit cards, or a woman's handbag?

The purse/handbag tends to contain the wallet(where most women keep coins, credit cards, and other financial and identity paraphanalia) as well as the other things we torture ourselves by carrying around 10lbs of makeup, cellphones, hair products, medication (like Advil, etc), mace, and whatever other useless crap we deem necessary to our existance.  :-*

Icey, does the location of the incident matter? If so, does this happen in the city, out in suburbs, or out in the country?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 17th, 2007, 3:41pm
Another idea.

Al got a serious heart problem.  Cassandra had an accident on the way to the hospital.  She died.  In her purse, she carried an "organ donor" card.  Her heart saved Al.

Epilogue: Much later, Al confessed that he himself provoked the accident when he learned their hearts were compatible ... in a medical sense.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 17th, 2007, 4:34pm
Nope.


on 08/17/07 at 15:22:12, ima1trkpny wrote:
Icey, does the location of the incident matter?

No, but nobody else was anywhere near.

Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by ima1trkpny on Aug 17th, 2007, 4:44pm
Did the first man die of natural causes? Or was there violence involved?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 17th, 2007, 4:47pm
Most probably violence, otherwise it would be quite a coincidence.  

Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by ima1trkpny on Aug 17th, 2007, 5:02pm
Is the man Cassandra is driving with injured?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 17th, 2007, 5:59pm
Yes. She is taking him to hospital.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by ima1trkpny on Aug 17th, 2007, 6:04pm
LOL... chill Icey, I know that was implied... but had to double check... in all fairness his wife could have been going into labor with their first child at the hospital and had Cassandra not picked him up so he could be there on time, his wife may have damn well killed him  ;)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 18th, 2007, 2:03am
Was that standard item from the purse used in some medical way to help the man survive until they reach the hospital?

Did it help to get to the hospital faster?

Did it help to call for help?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 18th, 2007, 8:06am

on 08/18/07 at 02:03:00, Grimbal wrote:
Was that standard item from the purse used in some medical way to help the man survive until they reach the hospital?

The item in question certainly helped, and you have to figure out how.  
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by denis on Aug 18th, 2007, 9:06am
She would have run out of gas but her credit card allowed her to fill the tank and make it to the hospital.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 18th, 2007, 10:52am
It is in the middle of some desert.  The next hospital is a week drive, at least with Cassandra's sun-powered golf car.  Cassandra has plenty of water in bottles.  The item in the purse is a swiss pocket knife with bottle opener.

Iceman, you really have weird ideas.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 18th, 2007, 12:41pm
That's not my idea.


No winner yet.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 18th, 2007, 4:50pm
Does the death of the dead man and the illness of the not-yet-dead man have the same cause?

Another idea.  The 2 men just fought a duel.  Cassandra has a business card of a good lawyer.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 19th, 2007, 7:25am
Guys, this is getting nowhere. Let's try and list some of the common items in a women's handbag that could be useful to help this injured man. ima1trkpny, we could use your input.

1. Cash
2. Credit card
3. Lipstick
4. Compact powder & case
5. Keys
6. Nail clippers / the thingy for self manicure.
7. Hairbrush
8. Cellphone
9. Tampons / Sanitary pads
10. Condoms ( for liberal ones )
11. Pen
12. Identity card / licence / registration
13. Tissue / Kleenex
14. Safety pins
15. A private stash of Mars.  :P

Hmm, no wonder they'd need a huge bag everytime they go out.

Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 19th, 2007, 7:38am

on 08/19/07 at 07:25:43, JiNbOtAk wrote:
1. Cash
2. Credit card
3. Lipstick
4. Compact powder & case
5. Keys
6. Nail clippers / the thingy for self manicure.
7. Hairbrush
8. Cellphone
9. Tampons / Sanitary pads
10. Condoms ( for liberal ones )
11. Pen
12. Identity card / licence / registration
13. Tissue / Kleenex
14. Safety pins
15. A private stash of Mars.  :P

I can say a number, if you want me to. ;)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 19th, 2007, 2:38pm
13. My reasoning is that she wiped the guy clean down after he was hurt, hence saving his life.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 19th, 2007, 2:49pm
Nope.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by ima1trkpny on Aug 19th, 2007, 7:35pm

on 08/19/07 at 07:25:43, JiNbOtAk wrote:
ima1trkpny, we could use your input...

Hmm, no wonder they'd need a huge bag everytime they go out.

Well, that would be the standard stuff... along with deoderant, perfume, (a hell of a lot more makeup products), hairspray, mace, hairpins are much more frequent than safety pins, and we tend to have more than one "thingy" for manicures  ;D, sanitizer, lotion, advil or ibuprofen, birth control pills (for some women it is used to regulate)... basically in general we care around way more useless crap than we actually could ever need... but once in awhile it does come in handy  ;D
Maybe our obsession with taking everything but the kitchen sink comes from the brain washing recieved in Girl Scouts  :o "Be prepared" ::)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 20th, 2007, 12:38am
An agenda, a phone book, a swiss pocket knife, pepper spray, chewing gum, antihistamine spray, discount coupons, used parking tickets, business cards of complete strangers who insisted on giving them, ....

Iceman, is it one of the items listed 1 to 15?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 20th, 2007, 2:53am

Quote:
basically in general we care around way more useless crap than we actually could ever need... but once in awhile it does come in handy


You forgot the answer answer to this riddle in that list as well.  ::)

Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 20th, 2007, 7:26am

on 08/20/07 at 00:38:46, Grimbal wrote:
Iceman, is it one of the items listed 1 to 15?

Yes.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by TheNumberScott on Aug 20th, 2007, 7:52am
seems like we may as well have him say which one it is, since now we can just go down the list and say "is it #1? it's not? okay, is it #2? no? how about #3?" and it seems like we can just cut that part right out.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 20th, 2007, 8:31am
OK, let's see:

1. Cash
She could have bought many things to help him live.  Any other item could have been bought with cash.

2. Credit card
Without her credit card, the hospital wouldn't take him.

3. Lipstick
She painted a red cross on her white car, and got priority from other cars.  She managed to get there fast.

4. Compact powder & case
Hm.. with a mirror?  The man borrowed her mirror and saw that she doesn't have a reflection in the mirror.  He jumped out of the car just seconds before she bite his neck.

5. Keys
Without the car keys, he would have been pushing the car to the hospital.

6. Nail clippers / the thingy for self manicure.
He was carrying a bomb.  Using the nail clipper, he could cut the blue wire.  Or was it the red one?

7. Hairbrush
A deadly spider was hiding in his hair.  If disturbed, it would bite.  Only with a hair blush (or a comb) it could be taken out gently.

8. Cellphone
The cellphone's battery helped to power his pacemaker.

9. Tampons / Sanitary pads
As mentioned earlier, a tampon was used to stop the bleeding.

10. Condoms ( for liberal ones )
Attaching the condom tightly around the arm helped to stop the bleeding.

11. Pen
Cassandra is a vampire.  The man used the wooden pencil to kill her.

12. Identity card / licence / registration
They were arrested by fundamental terrorists.  Thanks to her French identity card, they could go unharmed.

13. Tissue / Kleenex
As for the tampons, they helped to bandage a wound.

14. Safety pins
The man had a hole in his pants.  He would have absolutely refused to get out of the car to enter the hostpital, because people could have seen his backside.

15. A private stash of Mars.  :P
With the Mars, they could attract an unsuspecting teenager in the car.  He was declared a voluntary heart donor.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Aug 20th, 2007, 10:16am
Maybe she needed her insurance card.  On a related note, is one of the men related to her?  Brother or husband maybe?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 20th, 2007, 10:32am

on 08/20/07 at 10:16:38, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:
On a related note, is one of the men related to her?  Brother or husband maybe?

No.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 20th, 2007, 12:52pm
Was the object that helped used in its natural way?
Or was it used in some bizzare way,which I can't even think about???
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 20th, 2007, 12:55pm

on 08/20/07 at 12:52:53, gotit wrote:
Was the object that helped used in its natural way?

No.




on 08/20/07 at 12:52:53, gotit wrote:
Or was it used in some bizzare way,which I can't even think about???

Bizzare? No.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by TheNumberScott on Aug 20th, 2007, 1:27pm
I get the impression that two men were injured, one of whom died from the injury. The woman administered some small amount of first aid using an object from her purse to the other man, which allowed him to stay alive until she could get him to the hospital. Is this summary correct?

Were they injured at that spot, or somewhere else, and moved there?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 20th, 2007, 1:32pm

on 08/20/07 at 13:27:38, TheNumberScott wrote:
I get the impression that two men were injured, one of whom died from the injury.  

This part is correct. ;)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Aug 20th, 2007, 1:50pm
She performed a tracheotomy with the barrel of her pen.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 20th, 2007, 2:33pm
I think Cassandra might have captured the entire violence scene in her mobile cam,that proved that our man was innocent.Were it not for the recording,he could have been hanged for the murder of the first man.Seems unlikely,but I suppose that's what the answer is--unlikely!!
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by TheNumberScott on Aug 20th, 2007, 3:09pm
she the item she used ever touch the man?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 20th, 2007, 3:58pm
Not bad WTF and gotit, but I hadn't that in mind.



on 08/20/07 at 15:09:14, TheNumberScott wrote:
she the item she used ever touch the man?

Good question. No  ;)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by TheNumberScott on Aug 20th, 2007, 5:56pm
was Cassandra a doctor, or some other trained medical person?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 20th, 2007, 8:28pm

on 08/20/07 at 08:31:42, Grimbal wrote:
3. Lipstick
She painted a red cross on her white car, and got priority from other cars.  She managed to get there fast.


I'm banking on this one, which seems to be the best so far !!  ;D
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 21st, 2007, 12:39am
Was the item used before picking up the man?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 21st, 2007, 6:47am

on 08/21/07 at 00:39:03, Grimbal wrote:
Was the item used before picking up the man?

Yes.



on 08/20/07 at 17:56:22, TheNumberScott wrote:
was Cassandra a doctor, or some other trained medical person?

Definitely not.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 21st, 2007, 8:55am
It could be that the man would have been hit by Cassandra's car if the object were not there.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 21st, 2007, 9:11am
Was it day or night?If it was night,were there any lights around?If not,then I suppose that the object somehow helped Cassandra spot the man in time.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Aurora on Aug 21st, 2007, 9:25am
There don't seem to be any objects in the list that would help her to see him in the dark.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 21st, 2007, 9:26am

It was daytime.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Grimbal on Aug 21st, 2007, 9:39am
Was Cassandra somehow responsible for the men's injury?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 21st, 2007, 10:46am
No. Or maybe she was. Not important, really.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 21st, 2007, 6:51pm
Was Cassandra's coming to the spot a coincidence?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 21st, 2007, 7:44pm
In which group is the answer in. 1-5, 6-11, or 11-15?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 21st, 2007, 8:12pm
This thread is 4 pages long, just tell us the number Icey.  :P
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by TheNumberScott on Aug 21st, 2007, 9:55pm
was the man unconscious?

did she call someone to help her put him in her car?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Aurora on Aug 22nd, 2007, 2:31am
She was applying lipstick (or any other makeup for that matter) whilst driving, by looking in the mirror in the sun visor, so she spotted the men behind her. Because it was such a quiet road, there may not have been another car for hours.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 7:48am

on 08/21/07 at 18:51:19, gotit wrote:
Was Cassandra's coming to the spot a coincidence?

Yes.



on 08/21/07 at 21:55:50, TheNumberScott wrote:
was the man unconscious?

Yes.



on 08/21/07 at 21:55:50, TheNumberScott wrote:
did she call someone to help her put him in her car?

No.



on 08/22/07 at 02:31:51, Aurora wrote:
She was applying lipstick (or any other makeup for that matter) whilst driving, by looking in the mirror in the sun visor, so she spotted the men behind her. Because it was such a quiet road, there may not have been another car for hours.

Nope.




on 08/21/07 at 19:44:27, mikedagr8 wrote:
In which group is the answer in. 1-5, 6-11, or 11-15?

1-5.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 22nd, 2007, 9:44am
Did the man regain his consciousness before he was in the car?If yes,did the object,in some way (directly or indirectly),help him get back his consciousness?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 12:28pm

on 08/22/07 at 09:44:50, gotit wrote:
Did the man regain his consciousness before he was in the car?I

No.




on 08/22/07 at 09:44:50, gotit wrote:
If yes,did the object,in some way (directly or indirectly),help him get back his consciousness?

No.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 22nd, 2007, 12:57pm
Were the two men handcuffed together?If yes,Cassandra might have tried  her keys and luckily, the handcuff opened.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 1:03pm

on 08/22/07 at 12:57:59, gotit wrote:
Were the two men handcuffed together?

No.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 22nd, 2007, 1:25pm
Iceman,it's getting real lengthy.Let's narrow things down a bit.

Did the object help Cassandra to notice the two men?
                        OR
Did it help her to realize that our man was only unconscious,and not dead?
                          OR
Did it help her to drag the man to her car?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 1:28pm

on 08/22/07 at 13:25:03, gotit wrote:
Did the object help Cassandra to notice the two men?

No.



on 08/22/07 at 13:25:03, gotit wrote:
       Did it help her to realize that our man was only unconscious,and not dead?

Yes.



on 08/22/07 at 13:25:03, gotit wrote:
Did it help her to drag the man to her car?

No.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by denis on Aug 22nd, 2007, 1:50pm
did she put the compact mirror in front of his mouth to see condensation and realise he is still breathing?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 22nd, 2007, 1:54pm
I am thinking on the same track.

May be she brought the powder case near his mouth and some powder blew off.

Now tell us who is the winner?Denis or me?
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 2:05pm
Denis. You wanted to know. ;)Yes, both men were lying down, one dead, and the other one alive. But I suppose your idea might work too. I dunno much about powder though. I never use it.  
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by denis on Aug 22nd, 2007, 2:14pm
Well I got some help from Gotit's questions. Also SMQ got the same answer is I did a few seconds later but he removed his post soon after. So credit to SMQ also.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 22nd, 2007, 2:29pm
Well, a runner-up position is quite satisfatory for me. Btw, this was really a great riddle. Looking forward for some more of this kind....
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Iceman on Aug 22nd, 2007, 2:35pm

I wouldn't go that far and call it great, because it is pretty easy to rip off the rear-view mirror. Then again, to rip off the rear-view mirror is not a very feminine thing to do. I, myself, have strong, hairy hands, if you were wondering..  
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 22nd, 2007, 2:43pm
I think putting your ears on someone's heart to check if it's beating is easier than ripping of the rear view mirror....  8)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 22nd, 2007, 6:31pm
That's it ??

She couldn't feel for a pulse, listen for a heartbeat, look for the heaving of his chest ? I mean, he must be breathing pretty heavily to cause condensation.

< Note : No Icey, I have no problems with your riddles, it's just that I like riling you up  ;D >
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 22nd, 2007, 7:00pm
I gotta go with JiNbOtAk on this one, i have done first aid, and there is no way in hell, that they could be breathing condensation, and you couldn't tell they were alive by either looking at them close up, or feeling them. Also, she could have smashed the mirror from the car, not necessarily taken the whole thing off.

Credit to me aswell, i gave everyone the easy way out. ::)

P.S. Checking for a pulse is used, but not checking for a timed pulse is not for anyone who wanted to know. Only 1/5 doctors can keep track of a pulse on the correct beat, so it got wiped. I did my course 6 months ago.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by denis on Aug 22nd, 2007, 7:51pm
I have to go with Icey on this one.

When the pusle is very low or undetectable an alternate method is putting a mirror near the mouth. It  can fog up a mirror with very little amount of breathing.

Check page 71 below:

http://www.harmreduction.org/idu/ch4.pdf
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 22nd, 2007, 7:53pm
If you did your first aids course, you would be able to tell no matter what. I guess it was mentioned that she wasn't medically trained.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by JiNbOtAk on Aug 22nd, 2007, 9:00pm

on 08/22/07 at 19:51:13, denis wrote:
I have to go with Icey on this one.


Why am I not surprised ?  ::)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by denis on Aug 22nd, 2007, 9:04pm

on 08/22/07 at 21:00:57, JiNbOtAk wrote:
Why am I not surprised ?  ::)


8)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 22nd, 2007, 9:18pm
hahaha ;D, The duo strikes again.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by denis on Aug 22nd, 2007, 9:29pm
Trio this  time --- SMQ posted the same solution seconds after I did. Seeing that I beat him to the punch he removed his.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by SMQ on Aug 23rd, 2007, 5:41am
And if I hadn't taken the time to double check that "compact" was in the first five items on JiNbOtAk's list I would probably have beaten you. :P ;)

--SMQ
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by denis on Aug 23rd, 2007, 6:39am
and when you hid your answer, you lost another 10-15 seconds.  Moral of the story, post now, make cosmetic changes later. ;)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 23rd, 2007, 9:19am
And had I not gone to the nearby tea shop to have tea,I might have beaten both of you.But there is no use in crying over the spilt milk
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 23rd, 2007, 2:41pm
Do you honestly have tea with milk?  ::)
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 23rd, 2007, 2:54pm
Oh yes! and it's much better than the one without milk.But it is costly too.
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by Sameer on Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:45pm

on 08/23/07 at 14:41:15, mikedagr8 wrote:
Do you honestly have tea with milk?  ::)


Have you tried Indian Chai? It's made completely out of milk... yummm...
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 24th, 2007, 4:29am
No, I have a plain tea-bag with lots of lemon and if i have it blackurrant/berry flavouring. YUMMY!!! ;D
Title: Re: Cassandra
Post by gotit on Aug 24th, 2007, 1:01pm
Yeah! Sameer is right.Especially the one we call "Doodh Patti"(made of milk and tea leaves). I think Sameer will agree with me.


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