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(Message started by: Iceman on Jun 25th, 2007, 1:57pm)

Title: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 25th, 2007, 1:57pm
Agent James has been given a task by his boss to find a particular radio device in France, and press its green button, as it has three buttons altogether, green, black and yellow. If he presses black or yellow button, the acid in this device will be released and it will destroy the important message. Time is of essence and he does find it, in France, and he has 7 minutes to press the right button, after which the message it carries will be useless to his boss in London. Unfortunately for James, his flashlight turns dead and it is dark night filled with clouds so not even moonlight can get through. He prays for lighting so he could glance the right button, alas, there was no lightning that night to assist him. So he is on the plain and all stores are at least half an hour away, and no other objects are anywhere near or on his person. Interestingly enough, when James touched the device, that is, before he opened it, & it took him a couple of seconds to open it, this activated another radio signal, that was sent directly to his opponent Goldfinger, revealing device's location. This, of course, looked pretty bad to Goldfinger, so since he couldn't use the device remotely, he does something else to try to prevent agent James to press the green button. But this Goldfinger's action backfired, as soon James presses the button with assurance. What happened?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Grimbal on Jun 26th, 2007, 4:30am
He presses [hide] not the left, not the middle, but the right button [/hide].

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 26th, 2007, 5:29am
But how did Goldfinger's action backfired?  ;)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Grimbal on Jun 26th, 2007, 6:04am
Ok, maybe he raised some alarm, and all of sudden, there are flashing lights all around.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 26th, 2007, 6:10am
I said that there are no objects near & his men are far away from James.  ;)Not bad though but I hadn't that in mind.




I modified the riddle a bit so just read it again. ;D

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Archae on Jun 26th, 2007, 7:35am
Maybe [hide]James has a cell phone which is set to light up only when other people call, not when you press a key, etc.  So Goldfinger tries to call James to persuade him not to press the button (bribe, trying ti trick James, etc.) but James uses the light of the cell phone to see the button he needs to push.[/hide]
A little implausible, I know.  :-/

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 26th, 2007, 7:53am
No because I said that there were no objects on his person.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Sameer on Jun 26th, 2007, 9:15am
Haha since this is an old movie, maybe there are beeping flash lights on the device itself!!  8)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 26th, 2007, 10:18am
There were none.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by FiBsTeR on Jun 26th, 2007, 11:05am
[hide]Upon opening the device, Goldfinger sends another radio message to the device, shutting it again. Upon doing so, bright sparks are somehow created in the closing process, allowing James to see the correct button.[/hide]

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 26th, 2007, 11:17am
I said that he couldn't use the device remotely, so no.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by denis on Jun 26th, 2007, 12:14pm
Since Goldfinger now knew the location of the device, he pointed one of his satelite laser weapon orbiting earth to those coordinates and fired. Since acuracy is only up to a few  metters (just enough to hit a building), he really just managed in lighting up a small fire in the dry grass not too far from james. The fire gave enough light for James to identify the right button.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 26th, 2007, 12:34pm
In practice there is no need for such a device, certainly not the way it is now, in its infant stage. I suppose that laser can deprive James from his privates, but I am more oriented on reality than science fiction. [hide]But yes, you are on the right track[/hide].

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Sameer on Jun 26th, 2007, 12:44pm
Does Goldfinger have a weather making machine?  ::)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Archae on Jun 26th, 2007, 1:54pm
Goldfinger sends the coordinates to the helicopters/planes that are sweeping the area, looking for James.  The aircrafts use their spotlights to try to find the agent so they can gun him down, and the light is able to help him see the button before they find his exact location.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 26th, 2007, 2:30pm
No aircrafts were that close meaning that no flying device is that fast. We are talking about seconds here.



on 06/26/07 at 12:44:50, Sameer wrote:
Does Goldfinger have a weather making machine?  ::)

No. That is SF.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Sameer on Jun 26th, 2007, 4:19pm
ok to be clear... Goldfinger sends "something" over "radio signals" that does "something" to the device, that somehow helps 007?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 26th, 2007, 4:56pm

on 06/26/07 at 16:19:56, Sameer wrote:
ok to be clear... Goldfinger sends "something" over "radio signals"?

Yes.



on 06/26/07 at 16:19:56, Sameer wrote:
..that does "something" to the device

No. I said that he could not use it remotely.




Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Archae on Jun 26th, 2007, 6:34pm
Are we to assume that Goldfinger has seen the device before?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by JiNbOtAk on Jun 26th, 2007, 10:02pm
Ok, what could Goldfinger possibly sent over the radio signals, that does not connect to the device in any way ?

007's cellphone ?

007's PDA ?

A tv set ?

A radio set ?

Walkie talkie ?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Grimbal on Jun 27th, 2007, 2:20am
"So he is on the plain and all stores are at least half an hour away, and no other objects are anywhere near or on his person."

Clearly, he is alone, naked, with a dead flashlight and a particular radio device.

The device can transmit voice.  Goldf*r transmits "Be warned, one of the buttons will make the device explode.  Is it the small black square button?  The medium triangular yellow one?  Or the big round green one?  I won't tell you which.  Are you ready to take the risk?"

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by JiNbOtAk on Jun 27th, 2007, 3:21am

on 06/27/07 at 02:20:41, Grimbal wrote:
Clearly, he is alone, naked, with a dead flashlight and a particular radio device.


Hehe, we could start a new riddle, " Where did the naked Agent James stowed his dead flashlight ? "

Btw Grimby, what's with the Goldf*r ?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by FiBsTeR on Jun 27th, 2007, 6:08am
Goldfinger [hide]sent a voice message to the radio device, saying: "If you were here yesterday, I would have told you that the button on the left was the green button." Goldfinger is attempting to lure James from the left button. However, no matter if Goldfinger is telling the truth or lying, James knows with confidence that the leftmost button must be the green button![/hide] (BTW this was a joke, albeit a poor one)  ::)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 27th, 2007, 7:00am
It is very important to Goldfinger that James' boss doesn't get the message.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Grimbal on Jun 27th, 2007, 7:16am
When the radio device start beeping, James realizes that it runs on batteries.  He removes the batteries, puts them in the flash light and quickly presses the green button.  Nothing.  He presses again a few times with force, they way you press an elevator button when you are followed by a maniac serial killer.  He gets panicked: he is going to fail his mission and he can do nothing.  Suddenly he stops, like paralyzed for a few seconds.  Then he bursts into a hysterical laughter.  He realized that removing the battery has disabled the auto destruction mechanism.  He just removes the secret message and ... well, what good is a secret message when you are alone in a field, naked, with nothing but a working flash light and a dead radio device?  That's not a problem for James.  He beams the message to a spy satellite using the flash light an morse code.  The planet is saved.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 27th, 2007, 7:33am
Nope. Regarding the device, all that he can do is to press a button, that's all.  ;)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by denis on Jun 27th, 2007, 9:30am
So to be clear, the "radio signal" sent by Goldfinger is not sent to the device but to something else?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Sameer on Jun 27th, 2007, 9:54am

on 06/27/07 at 09:30:32, denis wrote:
So to be clear, the "radio signal" sent by Goldfinger is not sent to the device but to something else?


And also there is nothing around James.. except whatever James is carrying I suppose...

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:43am
Yes, you observations are all correct. So what does it mean? What could it possibly be?  ;)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by cheesepuff on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:48am
[hide]fireflies[/hide]

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 27th, 2007, 11:49am
Goldfinger sent fireflies, which travel faster than light? I wonder what Einstein would have to say about that.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Sameer on Jun 27th, 2007, 11:57am

on 06/27/07 at 11:49:48, Iceman wrote:
Goldfinger sent fireflies, which travel faster than light? I wonder what Einstein would have to say about that.



Hahah I read this while I was eating and the food almost popped out of my mouth  ;D

I believe the radio signal charged James radio powered flashlight?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:12pm
That was not the case here.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Sameer on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:25pm
ok Goldfinger had slipped a flashing radio bomb on James ... and as Goldfinger activated that James could easily see and press the green button.. however to escape from the bomb on him is another story ;)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 27th, 2007, 2:08pm

on 06/27/07 at 12:25:02, Sameer wrote:
a flashing radio bomb

Never heard of it. And is it really that fast, so it can reach James just in a few or several seconds?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by denis on Jun 27th, 2007, 4:11pm
Did the radio signal that Goldfinger send somehow caused a series of events (yet to be determined) that lead to a lightning strike that allowed James to see the right button?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 27th, 2007, 4:18pm
All right, you are definitely on the right track, but I said no lightning, so, no lightning. In a way, the riddle looks pretty much solved to me, even though nobody said the correct answer. Note that Goldfinger can get his hands on things, all kinds of things..  ;)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by FiBsTeR on Jun 27th, 2007, 5:05pm
Was Goldfinger's voice projected through the radio, through which James was able to derive the information required to press the green button?

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by JiNbOtAk on Jun 27th, 2007, 5:29pm
Goldfinger instructed his henchmen to attack James. Of course, these guys would need night vision goggles to see the agent, whereas James, trained in the art of Sinanju, could defeat them blindfolded. It is then a simple matter of using their night vision to determine which green button to press.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 27th, 2007, 5:50pm
http://www.geocities.com/alien624837/wrong-guess.gif

 ::)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by ima1trkpny on Jun 27th, 2007, 5:55pm
This has by far had some of the best zanny imaginative answers I've seen so far...   ;D Grimbal... yours was officially awesome! I spend about twenty straight minutes laughing as I read all the scenarios. Thank you all for giving me a good laugh (I most definately needed it today  :-/ ) If it is still unsolved I will try my hand at it later.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by JiNbOtAk on Jun 27th, 2007, 5:59pm

on 06/27/07 at 17:50:14, Iceman wrote:
http://www.geocities.com/alien624837/wrong-guess.gif

 ::)


Grr...   >:(

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by denis on Jun 28th, 2007, 9:26am
OK maybe we can get the missing piece by process of elimination:

Did Goldfinger send the radio signal to a:

Ground based receiver (a receiver somehwere on the surface)?
Receiver based underground?
Receiver based on water (i.e. in a boat or a ship)?
Receiver based under water (i.e. submarine or underwater base station)
Receiver on a plane or helicopter or something above ground inside our atmosphere?
Receiver on a orbiting satelite in space outside our atmosphere?


Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:14am
I dunno. Currently I am working on a good riddle.  ::)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jul 15th, 2007, 2:16pm
As I said, this riddle is nothing extra. But for some reason, I thought that [hide]Americans or Russians[/hide] would solve it by now.    ;)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Jul 15th, 2007, 3:55pm
Goldf*r launches a missile at James.  From the light generated by the missile propulsion James clearly sees what color the buttons are and hits the correct one.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Grimbal on Jul 16th, 2007, 1:23am
Goldfinger is in a helicopter.  When the devices locates itself by a radio signal, Goldfinger directs a spotlight to the location, in effect giving James the ligt ne needed.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jul 16th, 2007, 1:56am
[hide]WTF is on the right track. [/hide]

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Sameer on Jul 16th, 2007, 9:42am
Goldfinger accidentally activates his 4th of July celebration stash and all the rockets go flying in the sky exploding and lighting it up for James to easily see  ;)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by denis on Jul 16th, 2007, 10:02am
Well if James was in a field in France, perhaps you are refering to Goldfinger's July 14 celebration stash.

But since Ice is hinting at the cold war, perhaps a nuclear device was detonated which lights up the sky for a great distance.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Iceman on Jul 17th, 2007, 5:02am

on 07/16/07 at 10:02:37, denis wrote:
a nuclear device was detonated which lights up the sky for a great distance.

Yes.

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Sameer on Jul 17th, 2007, 5:02pm
ok so I have a follow up because I am confused, if he detonates it then all is lost right? He just destroyed whatever city he was destroying.. or if it was near James.. James is fried..

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by denis on Jul 17th, 2007, 5:21pm
If the nuclear device is far enough from james (20-30 miles), he can get enough light and have lots of time to clear out unharmed.

But it would seem that the message is more important than whatever the nuclear device destroyed  ::)

Title: Re: Goldfinger
Post by Three Hands on Jul 18th, 2007, 5:49pm
Well, obviously the nuclear device was Goldfinger's Secret Lair Self-Destruct mechanism. Having already figured that James Bond was going to thwart his efforts to conquer the world, he figured he might as well just save himself the grief of watching it all go wrong :P



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