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(Message started by: Iceman on Mar 10^th, 2007, 4:59pm)

Title: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 10^th, 2007, 4:59pm

A goodhearted couple meets a real estate agent, who has a pleasant way about them. They say their whishes, and she reacts with a smile, responding that she knows just the house they have in mind. But she says that she is booked for the next two days, proposing they go and visit this house on the 3rd workday from today, when she will be at their disposal the whole day. They agree, so she gives them a guided tour on Thursday, as proposed. So the view was nice to them, as the house is secluded, with no expressways, or airport in the vicinity. This was fine by our couple, as they prefer solitude and a peaceful neighborhood. So after more than an hour spent there, they decided they want the house! But the very day they moved in, they realized they were deluded, even though the house is in good state, and nothing new was built in that part of town recently. Can you explain it? :-[ ;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by denis on Mar 10^th, 2007, 5:44pm

They find out they live near [hide] a racetrack that only operates on weekends which is why they did not hear the racket during the Thursday visit[/hide]

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Mar 10^th, 2007, 5:51pm

They realize the house is so secluded that [hide]there is no running water or electricity[/hide].

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Icarus on Mar 10^th, 2007, 7:24pm

I believe that denis has the right idea, but the agent maneuvered them into not visiting on Monday-Wednesday, not the weekend, so whatever the problem is, it occurs on these days. In particular, it should be something that occurs on Wednesday.

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by denis on Mar 10^th, 2007, 10:23pm

Going along with Icarus's idea:

Perhaps [hide] a there is a military exercise firing range closeby which is only used on monday-wednesday... Big races are usually ran on weekends to attract more people[/hide]

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by raven on Mar 11^th, 2007, 12:52am

Ice said 3rd workday from today...today could have been Friday, leaving the third workday Wednesday, or today could also have been Monday or Tuesday, placing the third workday on Thursday or Friday...other combinations are possible too, such as today being Thursday, the third workday would then be Tuesday...etc.

Of course the Realtor also said she was booked for the next two days...which could be Mon-Fri...or even Sat, Sun if she hadn't also mentioned the third workday.

Here the following day could be any of Thursday, Friday, Saturday or etc...but Ice didn't say they moved in the next day, he said that "the very day they moved in...", so the day the Realtor avoided was one of Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and maybe Saturday or Sunday if she also works weekends, we can assume they didn't move in on the same day of the week they were shown the house.

IMO denis is on the right track, but trying to pin it to a specific day might not be easy...unless the idea that it was a 'workday' and not a 'weekend day' in general is the important point.

Having lived in several out of city locations...my guess is that the closest neighbor is selling off all of his trees--thus the incessant noise of chainsaws breaks the peaceful serenity they envisioned, and they also realize their view is their neighbor's forested land, not their own, and will soon be a clearcut. Since their neighbor works during the week, the Realtor showed the place on her next available weekday, no fool she!

;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by denis on Mar 11^th, 2007, 8:10am

As this is a "what happenned", yes/no questions are allowed.

Did the couple move in during the weekend?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 11^th, 2007, 10:44am

Not bad, but because of the above view as the house is secluded, let that eliminate the racetrack and military, since they took a good look. They even used binoculars! And let's eliminate problems like no running water or electricity as well, since our couple was quite thorough. In a way, I suggested this when I mentioned that the house is in good state. Still, [hide]regarding the above state, one thing is not that good after all, but even if they knew this right away, they'd still most probably buy the house.[/hide] Think about that. ;)

on 03/10/07 at 19:24:41, Icarus wrote:

Icarus is right about Denis' fine try, but he is also right about particular days, or should we say a particular day? Best thing is to try to connect all the dots and avoid incomplete answers.

on 03/11/07 at 00:52:44, raven wrote:

I meant that today was Monday, unless some count differently proposing Tuesday instead! This is an unimportant puzzle in important puzzle. :P

on 03/11/07 at 00:52:44, raven wrote:

we can assume they didn't move in on the same day of the week they were shown the house.

Yes, you should assume that. ;)

on 03/11/07 at 00:52:44, raven wrote:

Having lived in several out of city locations...my guess is that the closest neighbor is selling off all of his trees--thus the incessant noise of chainsaws breaks the peaceful serenity they envisioned, and they also realize their view is their neighbor's forested land, not their own, and will soon be a clearcut. Since their neighbor works during the week, the Realtor showed the place on her next available weekday, no fool she!

;)

Nah. Their closest neighbors are also a quiet type.

on 03/11/07 at 08:10:12, denis wrote:

Did the couple move in during the weekend?

This is not that important, but no, just to be on the safe side. ;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 11^th, 2007, 10:47am

And when I mentioned avoiding incomplete answers, I was being optimistic. Perhaps the intended answer is just the most fitting one. :-[ 8)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by denis on Mar 11^th, 2007, 11:08am

Did it rain on Monday-Wednesday (or have a rain forecast) but a nice sunny day during Thursday's visit?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by BNC on Mar 11^th, 2007, 11:14am

Maybe an [hide]air trafic route above heir house[/hide]?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Icarus on Mar 11^th, 2007, 11:44am

on 03/11/07 at 00:52:44, raven wrote:

"m guessing you didn't notice this part of the riddle:

on 03/10/07 at 16:59:55, Iceman wrote:

But she says that she is booked for the next two days, proposing they go and visit this house on the 3rd workday from today, ... so she gives them a guided tour on Thursday, as proposed.

Since Iceman has affirmed my summation, the particular problem is one that occurs on Wednesday. The difficulty is that there are so many possibilities. In order to cut them down, let me ask:

Is the problem they discovered noisy?
Is it visual ugliness?
Is it odiferous?
Is it a mechanical/structural problem in the house?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 11^th, 2007, 1:28pm

on 03/11/07 at 11:08:15, denis wrote:

Did it rain on Monday-Wednesday (or have a rain forecast) but a nice sunny day during Thursday's visit?

Weather is of no importance here.

on 03/11/07 at 11:14:23, BNC wrote:

Maybe an [hide]air trafic route above heir house[/hide]?

Not bad. I didn't exclude it in the riddle, perhaps indirectly when I said no airports. Not the intended answer though. But keep guessing like that, as you might stumble on the answer I am looking for.

on 03/11/07 at 11:44:10, Icarus wrote:

Since Iceman has affirmed my summation, the particular problem is one that occurs on Wednesday.

You think? Hm..;)

All right: let the game of questions and answers begin! And probably rightfully so.. :-[

on 03/11/07 at 11:44:10, Icarus wrote:

Is the problem they discovered noisy?

[hide]Yep.[/hide]

on 03/11/07 at 11:44:10, Icarus wrote:

Is it visual ugliness?

[hide]Nope. [/hide]

on 03/11/07 at 11:44:10, Icarus wrote:

Is it odiferous?

Huh?

on 03/11/07 at 11:44:10, Icarus wrote:

Is it a mechanical/structural problem in the house?

[hide]I'd say it is structural. And who knows what else.. [/hide] ;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by raven on Mar 11^th, 2007, 1:40pm

Icarus, in my defense, I was tired...you're correct that I did not notice that part of the puzzle even though I read the puzzle several times. Looking back I also notice at least one hole in my days theory, besides what you pointed out. Hmmn, I must need to get my eyes checked, or maybe attention span.
:o

Is hunting only allowed certain days of the week?

Did someone die in the house and only haunts it on Wednesday--the day of the murder?

As denis was getting at, does it have a bad roof, or is it near a cow pasture that is used for hunting mushrooms by all the local hippies, right after it rains?

I'll wait until you answer Icarus' questions before tossing more stuff out there.

:-*

edit: Ice top posted me on this one...

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by raven on Mar 11^th, 2007, 1:44pm

on 03/11/07 at 11:44:10, Icarus wrote:

Is it odiferous?

Does it smell bad?

I still like my haunted house idea. 8)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 11^th, 2007, 1:50pm

No to Raven's guesses.

You talk weird Raven, I mean, uniquely. You must be a poet in heart. Just like me. :-X :P

on 03/11/07 at 13:44:17, raven wrote:

Does it smell bad?

No.

By the way, the answer is not common, if you get my meaning, but it is possible, otherwise I wouldn't start this thread. :-X ;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by raven on Mar 11^th, 2007, 3:05pm

on 03/11/07 at 13:50:24, Iceman wrote:

You talk weird Raven, I mean, uniquely. You must be a poet in heart. Just like me. :-X :P

I had to laugh when I read that...I don't know why, it just hit the spot. If you think I talk funny, you should see the way I think...
;D

I know of several houses that sit on spongy ground, when it rains the ground swells and big cracks appear in the walls, none of the doors shut well, etc...when it is sunny and dry, everything seems normal. Wait, I live in that house, I got the haunted (minus the murder) , chainsaw (minus the view) and mushroom (minus the hippies) ideas from the house I live in too... But you said rain wasn't a factor so...

I don't believe it would be something obvious like termites, or other infestation, unless it was an uncommon one...the rare Tuesday Goose occupies their pool devouring their prize koi...no...

I'll have to revisit this unless someone has got it by then.

;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by BNC on Mar 11^th, 2007, 4:00pm

Question: Was the specific day (Thursday) important (That is, Thursday rather than "three days from now")?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by raven on Mar 11^th, 2007, 8:53pm

Do they live next to a geyser that goes off once a week sometime between Mon and Wed..This in itself might not be a bad thing, but maybe it's located in such a way that the house foundation is slowly eroding or something, or maybe they live off well water and the geyser indicates a high mineral content in the water supply...

:-/

...how is that for a stretch? ;D

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by JiNbOtAk on Mar 11^th, 2007, 11:37pm

The dump trucks only come once a week, early Thursday morning. The rest of the week, the whole neighbourhood stank to high heaven.. :P

Don't thinks its correct, exp after Icarus' odiferous comment, but hey, doesn't hurt to try.

By the way, is the fact that they are a good hearted couple significant ?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 12^th, 2007, 6:45am

on 03/11/07 at 15:05:21, raven wrote:

But you said rain wasn't a factor so...

Yes. I mean, no, weather is not important here, that is, recent weather anyway. Don't know much about it, [hide]but maybe weather was somewhat important before the house was built..[/hide]

No termites either.

on 03/11/07 at 16:00:27, BNC wrote:

Question: Was the specific day (Thursday) important (That is, Thursday rather than "three days from now")?

Yes. [hide]The specific day was quite important.[/hide]

on 03/11/07 at 20:53:36, raven wrote:

No, but it looks to me that you are headed in the right direction.. ;)

on 03/11/07 at 23:37:19, JiNbOtAk wrote:

is the fact that they are a good hearted couple significant ?

Not really.

Maybe the best thing is that I say the answer, as it is not terribly plausible. It is plausible, but not terribly plausible. :-X

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Padfoot on Mar 12^th, 2007, 3:03pm

Was the noice the main problem or only a fraction of it?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by raven on Mar 12^th, 2007, 4:07pm

When you said it was secluded... :o

The panoramic view from their house is over a canyon, etched out by the river still flowing far below...the problem they are having is that down river and down canyon there is mining going on. On Monday and Tuesday they blast the rocks loose, and the rest of the week they haul them out in trucks to the various construction sites the quarry serves. The problem arises on those dread days that they are blasting the rock--for the sound echoes all the way up to their new home and beyond--shaking the very foundation and rattling the glasses in the cupboard...beyond the hair pulling irritation of the noise, the actual foundation requires frequent reinforcement in order to forestall the house cascading right into the canyon depths, due to the constant barrage of sound vibration.

8)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 12^th, 2007, 4:07pm

Nope.

on 03/12/07 at 15:03:39, Padfoot wrote:

Was the noice the main problem or only a fraction of it?

It is a part of the whole picture, but I would not cal it fraction. ;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by JiNbOtAk on Mar 12^th, 2007, 6:47pm

on 03/11/07 at 10:44:50, Iceman wrote:

Still, regarding the above state, one thing is not that good after all, but even if they knew this right away, they'd still most probably buy the house. Think about that. ;)

Hmm, if I knew something bad about a house, but I wouldn't mind buying it, what would it be ?

Aha ! [hide]All my neighbours happened to be drop dead gorgeus gals, who flirts shamelessly. My wife was not very comfortable with that, but the house was great, so we bought it. Upon moving, we realised all of the gorgeus gals are transvestite.. [/hide];D

How's that Icey ?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Mar 12^th, 2007, 10:34pm

Only if they're not transvestites on Thursday. :o

On a more serious note, is Thursday [hide]garbage day in that area[/hide]?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by denis on Mar 13^th, 2007, 8:37am

WTF: I think we can conclude from earlier posts that the visit occured most probably on Thursday. Then perhaps the activity you refer to in your post would occur on Wednesdays?

Yeah, I know.... Spring Break right?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by denis on Mar 13^th, 2007, 8:51am

Ice,

is the noise generated by a man made phenomenon (i.e. not a natural one)?

I suspect its man made because of the calendar connection but I just want to confirm.

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by raven on Mar 13^th, 2007, 8:54am

Hmmn, Mardi Gras and Election Day both seem to fall on Tuesday...and of course sometimes Independence Day and others...

Does this have to do with a specific holiday, or known calendar day, like Election Day?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 13^th, 2007, 10:24am

on 03/12/07 at 18:47:23, JiNbOtAk wrote:

How's that Icey ?

Did you just call me Icey!? Now where did I put my piano.. Actually, it is not a bad hypocorism. I just hope it isn't contagious.

on 03/12/07 at 18:47:23, JiNbOtAk wrote:

Aha ! [hide]All my neighbours happened to be drop dead gorgeus gals, who flirts shamelessly. My wife was not very comfortable with that, but the house was great, so we bought it. Upon moving, we realised all of the gorgeus gals are transvestite.. [/hide] ?

Nah. They are still in love. I see your point though.

on 03/12/07 at 22:34:35, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

On a more serious note, is Thursday [hide]garbage day in that area[/hide]?

No.

on 03/13/07 at 08:51:25, denis wrote:

is the noise generated by a man made phenomenon (i.e. not a natural one)?

[hide]Yep.[/hide]

on 03/13/07 at 08:54:23, raven wrote:

Does this have to do with a specific holiday, or known calendar day, like Election Day?

It has to do with a specific day, that is, something that occurred that particular day. But it was not exactly one of the days you suggested. It was something else.. ;)

The answer will probably disappoint you, so be cool, just like me.

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Mar 13^th, 2007, 11:50am

on 03/13/07 at 08:37:04, denis wrote:

Actually I was thinking that on Thursday certain objects would be removed but that on other days they would be quite a nuisance. The garbage trucks I know come at 3 am but I guess they might have been removed on Wednesday instead.

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by JiNbOtAk on Mar 13^th, 2007, 7:08pm

The house that they bought is quite near to the Parliament. For the past year, a man known only as V had threathened to blow up the Parliament on Guy Fawkes Day. It just so happen that day is a Thursday. They did not believe that V could pull it off, so they decided to buy the house. Lo and behold, V managed to blow up the parliament, which not only create a hell of a racket, but destroyed the view.

Remember, remember, the 5th of November.. ;D

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 14^th, 2007, 9:32am

The only terrorist here was the real estate agent. ;D

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by AllThatRemains on Mar 14^th, 2007, 1:49pm

They Were...[hideb]BLINDFOLDED!!![/hideb] ::)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 14^th, 2007, 2:26pm

Sure. I know a lot of blind people who use binoculars. :P

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 15^th, 2007, 3:34pm

Do you quit or you are thirsty for another clue? I do not have it yet, but being an uberpuzzler, I will puzzle it out. Whatever that means. Does it mean anything? ??? ::)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by JiNbOtAk on Mar 15^th, 2007, 7:08pm

on 03/15/07 at 15:34:13, Iceman wrote:

Do you quit or you are thirsty for another clue? I do not have it yet, but being an uberpuzzler, I will puzzle it out. Whatever that means. Does it mean anything? ??? ::)

Being a uberpuzzler, everything you say is a puzzle Icey.. ;)

But hey, I guess we could use another hint

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 16^th, 2007, 5:34am

I got this clue for now: [hide]I noticed some of you tried to find the answer pretty distant from the house. I wonder if that is the right approach.. [/hide] ;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Grimbal on Mar 16^th, 2007, 6:06am

One possibility would have been that when they move in they see 4 other couples who are about to move in. One visited the house on Monday, one on Tuesday, etc, until Friday. For some mysterious reason the seller's mobile phone is unreachable.

Or they discover that Thursday is the day off for the testing of new prototypes of supersonic jet fighter. They start from an airport that is just a few meters too far to be considered "nearby".

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 16^th, 2007, 6:17am

Sky [hide]is not important here.[/hide]

on 03/16/07 at 06:06:23, Grimbal wrote:

No. No other folks. ;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by denis on Mar 16^th, 2007, 6:53am

Regarding the man made noise that bothers our kind hearted couple, does this noise come from outside the house? Or does it come from inside the house?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 16^th, 2007, 7:30am

The former. ;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by denis on Mar 16^th, 2007, 8:45am

is a truck or trucks or heavy machinery involved in generating the noise?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Grimbal on Mar 16^th, 2007, 9:19am

Is some mining activity going on below the house?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 16^th, 2007, 1:44pm

Denis: no.
Grimbal: H'm.. ;) Not really, but you might be onto something here. 8)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by denis on Mar 16^th, 2007, 2:47pm

subway or tunnel pass underneath the house or close proximity to the house?

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 16^th, 2007, 3:16pm

on 03/16/07 at 14:47:45, denis wrote:

subway or tunnel pass underneath the house or close proximity to the house?

Yes. They were on strike on Thursday. ;) So house's soundproofing is pretty bad and the composition of the ground is particular, so the couple can't hear themselves think when the train is passing by. ::)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by JiNbOtAk on Mar 18^th, 2007, 7:37pm

SE7EN ;)

Title: Re: Home sweet home 2
Post by Iceman on Mar 19^th, 2007, 6:35am

Yup. Hollywood movies can give you an idea for a riddle or two. In my case, about seven riddles altogether, including this one. ::)