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(Message started by: Iceman on Mar 6^th, 2007, 8:54am)

Title: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 6^th, 2007, 8:54am

A man pulls over for a second, shoots a pedestrian from his car, and throws the pistol right away, since he had gloves. But right then he was unlucky, as there happened a police helicopter nearby. The helicopter's reflector is on his car, and so he hits the pedal for speed. Soon he hears the siren, as it also happened that there was two police cars pretty close by, which joined the chase. So the police obviously know the type and paint of his car. But he thinks to himself, that they probably didn't make the license plate yet, because the helicopter is following him sidewise, and the police cars behind him are not close enough. Anyway, he has two options, as the helicopter is on him like a cheap suit, and the police cars are steadily approaching. First is to continue to the intersection, where he has more options where to go from there, and he knows this town well, or to make the next turn, where the road soon ends. He takes the second choice and gets away with it, even though the helicopter is allowed to fly everywhere in this part of town, and nothing blocked the view between the helicopter and his car, which he parked outdoors. How did the police manage to lose him? ???

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Grimbal on Mar 6^th, 2007, 9:30am

He entered an embassy?

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 6^th, 2007, 9:39am

There is no embassy in this town. ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Mar 6^th, 2007, 11:12am

He pulled into a car dealership and left the car there.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Aryabhatta on Mar 6^th, 2007, 11:51am

He crossed a state/county boundary? Reminds me of Porky's, funny movie.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by C.S.I. on Mar 6^th, 2007, 1:19pm

on 03/06/07 at 11:51:42, Aryabhatta wrote:

He crossed a state/county boundary? Reminds me of Porky's, funny movie.

But the road is a dead end??

What about: [hide]he was playing a computer game in which he killed all the enemies and just got to thre destination on time and passed the level?[/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 6^th, 2007, 2:23pm

It was not a computer game.

on 03/06/07 at 11:12:16, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

He pulled into a car dealership and left the car there.

It was night, so no. ;)

on 03/06/07 at 11:51:42, Aryabhatta wrote:

He crossed a state/county boundary?

Nope.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Padfoot on Mar 6^th, 2007, 3:12pm

on 03/06/07 at 08:54:36, Iceman wrote:

the helicopter is allowed to fly everywhere in this part of town

Can it fly out off that part of town?

I bet it isn't this simple but [hide]did the hellicopter and cars just run out of gas?[/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 6^th, 2007, 3:52pm

on 03/06/07 at 15:12:15, Padfoot wrote:

Can it fly out off that part of town?[/hide]

It sure can. ???

on 03/06/07 at 15:12:15, Padfoot wrote:

I bet it isn't this simple but [hide]did the hellicopter and cars just run out of gas?[/hide]

No. No malfunction either.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by C.S.I. on Mar 6^th, 2007, 4:44pm

Is it because [hide]he dives off the road into the river and gets away under water?[/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by cchris on Mar 6^th, 2007, 5:30pm

That's what I was thinking. That he [hide]drove off a cliff[/hide].

Title: Re: Speed
Post by JiNbOtAk on Mar 6^th, 2007, 5:45pm

[hide]He stopped next to a forest, left the car, and lose himself in the dense foliage.[/hide]
OR

[hide]He crashed his car against a wall, blowing up the car into smithereens, thereby ensuring that his body would never been found. [/hide]

OR

[hide]He drove the Batmobile into the Batcave, which everyone knows is impossible to be located.. [/hide];D

Do tell us when we're getting warmer..

Title: Re: Speed
Post by BNC on Mar 6^th, 2007, 10:56pm

I was thinking along similar lines of JiNbOtAk's first guess:

He parked his car outdoors, in plain view for the helicopter, [hide]but went on foot where he could not be seen -- indoors (e.g., a mall, a movie etc.) or, like JiNbOtAk suggested, under cover of trees.
Which leaves the question: did he not drive his own car? was it stolen?[/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Grimbal on Mar 7^th, 2007, 2:48am

on 03/06/07 at 08:54:36, Iceman wrote:

How did the police manage to lose him? ???

He actually was arrested. It is only months later during a fight in prison that he was hurt deadly. The police tried to keep his vital functions running but in the end they lost him.

More seriously. He shot "from his car". So he can be identified from his car plate. Since the helicopter never lost sight of the car, whatever the car does, the helicopter can keep watch until the ground police men get to the car and read the license plate.

So the only possibility I see is: he makes his car unidentifiable. For example, he enters a car demolition place and destroys his car. Or simpler: he stops near a subway entry, remove his license plates and enters the subway. Burning the car could also help;

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 7^th, 2007, 6:45am

He parked his car on the airport runway right next to the jet that was waiting for him for his getaway.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 7^th, 2007, 6:56am

on 03/06/07 at 16:44:09, C.S.I. wrote:

Is it because [hide]he dives off the road into the river and gets away under water?[/hide]

on 03/06/07 at 17:30:35, cchris wrote:

That's what I was thinking. That he [hide]drove off a cliff[/hide].

When I said that he parked his car outdoors, I did not mean under the water or at the bottom of a cliff. ::)

on 03/06/07 at 17:45:51, JiNbOtAk wrote:

[hide]He crashed his car against a wall, blowing up the car into smithereens, thereby ensuring that his body would never been found. [/hide]

I said he parked the car, not crashed the car. ;)

on 03/06/07 at 17:45:51, JiNbOtAk wrote:

Do tell us when we're getting warmer..

Sure, you cold riddlers.. ;D Although, it looks to me that one of you is pretty close, but I will not mention his nick for now..

on 03/06/07 at 22:56:02, BNC wrote:

He parked his car outdoors, in plain view for the helicopter, [hide]but went on foot where he could not be seen -- indoors (e.g., a mall, a movie etc.) or, like JiNbOtAk suggested, under cover of trees.

on 03/06/07 at 17:45:51, JiNbOtAk wrote:

[hide]He stopped next to a forest, left the car, and lose himself in the dense foliage.[/hide]

But would they not get the license plate then? Maybe he would be free for a while as a fugitive, but this is no way to live.. Some gamble for all or nothing. 8)

on 03/06/07 at 22:56:02, BNC wrote:

Which leaves the question: did he not drive his own car? was it stolen?[/hide]

It was his car. It was not stolen.

on 03/07/07 at 02:48:27, Grimbal wrote:

So the only possibility I see is: he makes his car unidentifiable. For example, he enters a car demolition place and destroys his car. Or simpler: he stops near a subway entry, remove his license plates and enters the subway. Burning the car could also help;

The car was not destroyed.

on 03/07/07 at 02:48:27, Grimbal wrote:

Since the helicopter never lost sight of the car

Really? ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Grimbal on Mar 7^th, 2007, 7:08am

on 03/07/07 at 06:56:49, Iceman wrote:

Really? ;)

"nothing blocked the view between the helicopter and his car"

on 03/07/07 at 06:56:49, Iceman wrote:

The car was not destroyed.

He stops near a subway entry, remove his license plates and enters the subway. ~~Burning the car could also help.~~

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 7^th, 2007, 7:24am

on 03/07/07 at 07:08:27, Grimbal wrote:

"nothing blocked the view between the helicopter and his car"

Perhaps they made a little mistake: sometimes that is all it takes to blow it. ;)

on 03/07/07 at 07:08:27, Grimbal wrote:

He stops near a subway entry, remove his license plates and enters the subway.

I doubt that he can remove license plates so fast. And where would he put them, in the trunk? :P

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 7^th, 2007, 8:25am

Since this is a "what happened" I assume we can ask yes/no type question...

Did the helicopter (or persons in the helicopter) briefly lose sight of the car despite what you said earlier?

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 7^th, 2007, 9:44am

on 03/07/07 at 08:25:59, denis wrote:

Did the helicopter (or persons in the helicopter) briefly lose sight of the car despite what you said earlier?

...............[hide]you might say that, yes. But even if that is the case, why does this sound so final, since the road practically ends there? Think about that.. You have to search deeper, as there are other factors involved. Btw, I did not provide a contradictory statement, but I see your point. Perhaps rewording a bit would do. All I was trying to say, obviously in a clumsy way, was that there was nothing right between the helicopter and the car, and helicopter's altitude was pretty high. But if you want to nit-pick, the only thing between them was air. I am open for constructive suggestions, regarding the above sentence in question, as malice and usefulness are not one and the same thing. [/hide] ;) :P

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 7^th, 2007, 11:30am

The car arrived at the [hide]stadium parking lot where there was a sporting event taking place that night. The helicopter briefely lost track of the car amongst all the other cars going around in the same lot. Because of the size of this lot, there are many other cars of the same make and colour that are parked there that even if they tracked all of them down, they would not be able to "pin" their man because of the large number of suspects that would yield.[/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 7^th, 2007, 11:40am

other possibility... he drove onto [hide]the ferry in plain view of the helicopter. The ferry left right after he arrived. Our crook took out a cigarette and leisureley puffed on it while the helicopter tried in vain to find a spot where it could land on the ferry. The ferry was too smal. The ferry then sailed our crimial outside the police jurisdiction just accross the river[/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 7^th, 2007, 12:57pm

on 03/07/07 at 11:30:52, denis wrote:

I didn't hear of this event, perhaps under some other name, but it is [hide]quite warm now! So can you think of the intended answer as well?[/hide] ;) 8)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 7^th, 2007, 2:43pm

It seems to me that the two contraints ( he parks it outside and does not destroy the car) will limit the solution to only a few possibilities. I like Grimbal's answer where he parks in an embassy. It's a clean solution and the police would be helpless to enter.

The only other way I figure he can loose them if he parks in a [hide] large car park. The stadium or sport event is not required although a stadium would make the car park enormous and help his chances. To further increase his chances of success, perhaps their was a convention of BMWs (or substitute another car brand here) owners and our criminal was driving same. Would be easy to loose his car in a sea of similar cars. [/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Mar 7^th, 2007, 2:45pm

Combining denis' recent answer and my first guess, perhaps he [hide]drove into a destruction derby or some kind of race.[/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Grimbal on Mar 7^th, 2007, 3:01pm

À la Tomas Crown.

Plenty of black cars come out of nowhere, all wearing the same English black hat, coat and suitcase, driving in all directions, crossing each other and exchanging their suitcases as they meet until nobody knows who is who.

Unnoticed, a black Rolls Royce turns into a car wash, gets tons of black paint washed off and comes out as a white Fiat 500.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by BNC on Mar 7^th, 2007, 11:11pm

2nd page... no more hiding.

Did he switch cars?

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 8^th, 2007, 3:42am

BNC: Nope.
Others: Get white and think serious.

No winner yet. ::) 8)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by BNC on Mar 8^th, 2007, 7:31am

Did he dazzle the pilot (reflected sunlight, perhaps)?

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 8^th, 2007, 7:40am

Reflected sunlight? No.

Denis is on the right track, but there was no special events that night, just the routine. ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 8^th, 2007, 8:00am

Ice,

I did mention a stadium or event is not required, just a big car park is needed (although an event will increase the number of cars and traffic and add to the confusion). Does your intended answer include something more than just the car park?

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 8^th, 2007, 9:09am

What exactly is car park? ???

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 8^th, 2007, 9:13am

A parking lot, a designated area for parking many cars (in front of stores, stadiums, shopping malls etc).

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 8^th, 2007, 9:15am

Just an ordinary parking lot, eh? Nah, this is not satisfactory. :P

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Grimbal on Mar 8^th, 2007, 9:29am

Not satisfactory?
Like in "car factory".

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 8^th, 2007, 10:03am

You are missing the whole picture here..

Here is a weird clue: :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-/ :-* :'(

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 8^th, 2007, 10:06am

OK... I'm assuming there is a parking lot involved. Lets say the parking lot has a valet to park the car. Our criminal gives the car to the valet during the momentary lapse of the helicopter's attention. Subsequently, the valet is the one who gets picked up.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 8^th, 2007, 10:11am

Even if this were the case, the police would know the license plate then, and pick him up some other day.. Actually, this answer is not that bad. I know valets who sometimes get the permission to take the car for a spin. But it still looks pretty thin, because someone else probably saw this valet, giving him an alibi. And if not, to take the turn where road ends just because of an off chance that valet may get arrested instead, well, that looks pretty thin to me.. :-/ ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 8^th, 2007, 10:16am

on 03/07/07 at 15:01:25, Grimbal wrote:

Plenty of black cars come out of nowhere, all wearing the same English black hat, coat and suitcase, driving in all directions, crossing each other and exchanging their suitcases as they meet until nobody knows who is who.

You may be kidding here, but you [hide]also may be on the right track..[/hide] ;) No holydays though, no events, no nothing: just the routine, riddlers, just the routine..

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 8^th, 2007, 10:29am

Is there a parking lot involved at all?

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 8^th, 2007, 10:34am

[hide]You know it.[/hide] ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 8^th, 2007, 2:24pm

He parked the car on one of those parking lot elevators that brings the car down inside the car lot.

http://engineering.curiouscatblog.net/2007/02/24/car-elevator-for-parking

Title: Re: Speed
Post by cchris on Mar 8^th, 2007, 2:31pm

I think you have to be a rich, obnoxious jerk to use one of those :P

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Grimbal on Mar 8^th, 2007, 2:48pm

Other ideas:

- Where he turns to is the airport parking, in the axis of the takeoff lane. The helicopter is not allowed to follow there.

- Where he goes to there are fireworks. Enough to scare the sh*t out of the helicopter pilot for long enough to escape.

- It all happened on September 11. Just afterwards the first airplane crashed in the tower. They decided to let him go. He didn't look like the middle-east type.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 8^th, 2007, 3:57pm

on 03/08/07 at 14:48:17, Grimbal wrote:

Other ideas:

- Where he turns to is the airport parking, in the axis of the takeoff lane. The helicopter is not allowed to follow there.

I also thought about something like that but...

on 03/06/07 at 08:54:36, Iceman wrote:

He takes the second choice and gets away with it, even though the helicopter is allowed to fly everywhere in this part of town???

Title: Re: Speed
Post by thecow135 on Mar 8^th, 2007, 7:17pm

[hide]there was a funeral house w/e you call it and his car was a black perhaps lincoln town cars? i see those around funerals and he just blended into the funeral cars in the parking lot?![/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by JiNbOtAk on Mar 9^th, 2007, 12:40am

on 03/06/07 at 08:54:36, Iceman wrote:

He takes the second choice and gets away with it, even though the helicopter is allowed to fly everywhere in this part of town, and nothing blocked the view between the helicopter and his car, which he parked outdoors. How did the police manage to lose him? ???

Hey, maybe he did get caught, but they could not find him guilty. It might be due to double jeopardy, diplomatic immunity, take your pick.

^{Almost certain this is not the intended answer.. :P}

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 9^th, 2007, 5:49am

He didn't get caught.

No to all excepting cchris who has a point: he wasn't rich. ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 9^th, 2007, 7:48am

The man was driving a convertible with the top down.
When he parked the car, he ran to the stairs with the helicopter spot light following him. But before he left the car, he pressed the button to close the top. So when he disapeared down the stairs, the helicopter tried to point the light beam to the car with the top down but could not find it because there was no car with the top down anymore.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 9^th, 2007, 7:56am

Still thin. ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 9^th, 2007, 8:16am

Quote:

[hide]Plenty of black cars come out of nowhere, all wearing the same English black hat, coat and suitcase, driving in all directions, crossing each other and exchanging their suitcases as they meet until nobody knows who is who.[/hide]

Quote:

[hide]The car arrived at the stadium parking lot where there was a sporting event taking place that night. The helicopter briefely lost track of the car amongst all the other cars going around in the same lot. Because of the size of this lot, there are many other cars of the same make and colour that are parked there that even if they tracked all of them down, they would not be able to "pin" their man because of the large number of suspects that would yield.[/hide]

These are hot.. ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Mar 9^th, 2007, 9:02am

Was he driving a [hide]cab or a Continental? Maybe there were a bunch lined up outside the event, be it a stadium, airport, or something similar.[/hide]

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 9^th, 2007, 10:33am

-It was snowing so most cars parked in the lot were covered in snow. He was driving a white car. So when he parked it, his car blend in with the other cars from the helicopter's point of view.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 9^th, 2007, 10:52am

on 03/09/07 at 09:02:23, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

Was he driving a [hide]cab or a Continental?[/hide]

I feel there is no need to prolong the pain, especially now that WTF practically got it. So yes, he [hide]had a cab of his own, and so they lost him in the base. Yellow taxies everywhere, thus we all live in a yellow taxi, not in a yellow submarine. Beatles should rethink their philosophy. 8)[/hide] :P

on 03/09/07 at 10:33:28, denis wrote:

-It was snowing so most cars parked in the lot were covered in snow. He was driving a white car. So when he parked it, his car blend in with the other cars from the helicopter's point of view.

I like this idea. It is not better than the intended answer, but I like it. :)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by JiNbOtAk on Mar 9^th, 2007, 7:44pm

That's it ? A yellow cab ?? ???

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 10^th, 2007, 5:54am

Nobody said that this riddle is great, ::) and the core of this riddle is an exact copy of a scene from the movie Assassins. So if you do not like Stalone, do not address your discontent to me, rather to him. And what exactly are you saying, that a helicopter cannot lose a cab he is pursuing amongst the sea of other identical cabs? If so, please provide an iron proof, because I would really like to hear it. ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by denis on Mar 10^th, 2007, 10:48am

Actually I tought it was good. A very plausible scenario.

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 10^th, 2007, 11:06am

That is what I am talking about. Right on, Denis. ;)

Title: Re: Speed
Post by JiNbOtAk on Mar 11^th, 2007, 11:12pm

on 03/10/07 at 05:54:23, Iceman wrote:

Whoa, cool down Iceman, nobody's dissing you bout the riddle. In fact, I saw a similar scene in Queen Latifah's Taxi, minus the shooting. I guess it is plausible. I guess I chose the wrong emoticon..

Title: Re: Speed
Post by Iceman on Mar 12^th, 2007, 6:26am

No sweat. Perhaps your comment belongs to the Home sweet home riddle instead.. :-[ :P