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(Message started by: Locke64 on Jan 5th, 2007, 3:58pm)
Title: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 5th, 2007, 3:58pm
I was going to wait for my friend to post his version of this before I posted mine (because mine's better ;) ), but I'm getting impatient.  Here it is:

You have just gotten a job in an observatory.  Upon arrival for your first day at work, you discover that the door is locked!  You must enter the correct pass code on the keyboard in order to gain access to the observatory. You don't know this pass code, but there is a hint that should help you figure it out.

Code: ##hrs; ###°
Hint 1: Where is the Slow Change?

hint 2: [hide]You will need to use your knowledge of Astronomy, as well as Biology and English.[/hide]
hint 3: [hide]First English, then Biology, then Astronomy[/hide]
hint 4: [hide]http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=riddles_whathappened;action=display;num=1168108342[/hide]
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by TheNumberScott on Jan 5th, 2007, 5:36pm
are all the answers to the hints going to be 3 characters also?
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by thecow135 on Jan 5th, 2007, 5:39pm
when ur in heavyass traffic on the freeway and u dont know how to drive and ur instructor decides to make you change 4 lanes... yah... scared the crap outta me lol but at least now i kinda noe how to drive =)
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 5th, 2007, 5:56pm

on 01/05/07 at 17:36:38, TheNumberScott wrote:
are all the answers to the hints going to be 3 characters also?

Only the final pass code is three characters.  The answers to the hints may be anything.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Icarus on Jan 5th, 2007, 7:10pm
How is this a "What am I?" riddle?
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 5th, 2007, 7:11pm

on 01/05/07 at 19:10:45, Icarus wrote:
How is this a "What am I?" riddle?

What is the code?
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by raven on Jan 5th, 2007, 7:30pm
Xiu :: too obscure
Sun :: too obvious
NNE :: meaningless
in the minds of humankind :: too long

90N


8)
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 5th, 2007, 7:39pm

on 01/05/07 at 19:30:51, raven wrote:
Xiu :: too obscure
Sun :: too obvious
NNE :: meaningless
in the minds of humankind :: too long

90N


8)
That's really close! :o  May I ask how you came up with that?  Sorry, I meant to say "How did you come up with that?" :P
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 5th, 2007, 9:13pm
Sorry, but I had to change it a little.  I think I got a fact from a non-reliable source. :(  It might be easier to answer now though.

I'm going to bed now (it's 12:22 >_>), and when I get up I might post a clue.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by denis on Jan 5th, 2007, 9:49pm
I gather the slow change is when you point your telescope to the [hide]North star[/hide] or more precicely, line it up with the [hide] north pole [/hide] where the telescope need not compensate for the earth's rotation.

Using celestial  coordinates, that would be [hide]+90 [/hide]
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Jan 5th, 2007, 10:08pm
[hide]I think raven got it.   The coordinates for the north pole, the south pole, or equator should do.  Take your pick.[/hide]
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by denis on Jan 5th, 2007, 11:53pm
Actually [hide]North pole if you're in north hemisphere, south pole if you're in south hemisphere. But the equator is not really where the change is slow since  the stars are spinning at 15 degrees/hour there.[/hide]
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 6th, 2007, 6:44am
:: WARNING :: PASS CODE ERROR ::



Hint 2: Think biology. ;)
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by hiyathere on Jan 6th, 2007, 10:21am
Locke I think you forgot something...
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 6th, 2007, 10:22am

on 01/06/07 at 10:21:51, hiyathere wrote:
Locke I think you forgot something...

what?
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by hiyathere on Jan 6th, 2007, 10:23am

on 01/06/07 at 10:22:23, Locke64 wrote:
what?


I IM'd you, check it.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by raven on Jan 6th, 2007, 10:27am
Hmmn, since you redefined the criteria of how to answer this riddle...let me now say:

24hrs; 360°

23 hrs 56 min 4.0909 seconds; 360° ...actually

Which is actually any place on the planet, if I'm not mistaken. But the rotational speed on the North/South poles is far less than it is on the Equator, which is 1,674 km/hr (1,040 mi/hr) or Mach 1.4...so I stick with my original answer, yet I don't know how to specify 90° N in hrs/degrees, at this moment.


Alternatively, I would suspect the slowest change from a 'biology' perspective would be where it is cold in climate, and life evolves or at least moves, at a slower pace (I would speculate). Or it could be the cells of our body type slow, such as our hair vs. our gastrointestinal track, of which cells replace themselves at a much higher rate...but I'm not sure what this would have to do with astronomy.



:-/
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 6th, 2007, 10:30am

on 01/06/07 at 10:27:04, raven wrote:
Hmmn, since you redefined the criteria of how to answer this riddle...let me now say:

24hrs; 360°

23 hrs 56 min 4.0909 seconds; 360° actually

Which is actually any place on the planet, if I'm not mistaken. But the rotational speed on the North/South poles is far less than it is on the Equator, which is 1,674 km/hr (1,040 mi/hr) or Mach 1.4...so I stick with my original answer, yet I don't know how to specify 90° N in hrs/degrees, at this moment.


Alternatively, I would suspect the slowest change from a 'biology' perspective would be where it is cold in climate, and life evolves or at least moves, at a slower pace (I would speculate). Or it could be the cells of our body type slow, such as our hair vs. our gastrointestinal track, of which cells replace themselves at a much higher rate.



:-/

Hint 2.5:  You will need to use your knowledge about astrology, biology, and English.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by hiyathere on Jan 6th, 2007, 10:33am

on 01/06/07 at 10:30:15, Locke64 wrote:
Hint:  You will need to use your knowledge about astrology, biology, and English.


Mine doesn't need the biology or the english part, so why does yours have it?

P.S. Can I still say "password error"?
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 6th, 2007, 10:35am

on 01/06/07 at 10:33:59, hiyathere wrote:
Mine doesn't need the biology or the english part, so why does yours have it?

P.S. Can I still say "password error"?

You don't even know the right password.  I changed it. :P
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by raven on Jan 6th, 2007, 8:45pm
An alien craft with alien technology decides to test out their new device on an *unpopulated planet, so they come to Gaea to give it a shot...you are in Ecuador and all of a sudden the atmosphere stops rotating in concordance with the planet...what would you experience?

...sorry, just playing around...see what your riddle has done to me!


Can you give me a hint?  ;)


*unpopulated by any sentient race, in relation to their perspective.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 7th, 2007, 9:59am

on 01/06/07 at 20:45:07, raven wrote:
Can you give me a hint?  ;)

First English, then Biology, then Astrology.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by william11141 on Jan 7th, 2007, 10:04am

  hmm... maybe
      [hide]27hr110o?[/hide]
            Random guess
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by william11141 on Jan 7th, 2007, 10:08am
Oh dang, I messed up. Ignore my post above me. Thats useless.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by towr on Jan 7th, 2007, 11:17am

on 01/07/07 at 10:08:25, william11141 wrote:
Oh dang, I messed up. Ignore my post above me. Thats useless.

You can edit and remove your own posts, should you choose to. (It's the links at the top right of your posts)
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 7th, 2007, 5:13pm
Hint 4:

on 01/07/07 at 13:49:38, denis wrote:
Here are constalletions/stars visible from both north and south hemisphere at this time of the year:

[hide]
Lepus
Rigel
Algol
Aries
Hamal
Cetus
Canis[/hide]

From here (http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=riddles_whathappened;action=display;num=1168108342).
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by denis on Jan 7th, 2007, 7:17pm
Some stars vary in brightness and are called "variables". One characteristic of this change in brightness is that the period from brightest to lowest magnitude and back to the brightest magnitude is usually constant but different for each variable star.

Looking at stars that have variations in brightness with more or less constant periods, I looked for the one from the list above which has the longest period (or in other words, the slowest rate of change).

[hide]Betelgeuse from the Orion constellation is the one that has the longest period of magnitude change (6.39 years) and is quite visible from both hemishperes. [/hide]

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how it ties in with biology.

At any rate, [hide]its RA is 5h55m and DEC is 7024'[/hide]

not sure how to convert to the pass code even if it were the right object to look for.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by denis on Jan 7th, 2007, 9:59pm
I don't think my previous post is correct. Lets try it again....

[hide]920[/hide]

[hide]The constallation Cancer is found at 9hr 20' [/hide] It also ties in with the Slow Change, Biology and English and is visible from the south and north hemisphere.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 8th, 2007, 3:51am
You're thinking too hard. ;)
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by denis on Jan 8th, 2007, 6:22am
OK so its one from the list presumably. Is that the case?  If so, I can't find an association with one of those and with "Slow change" and Biology....

Guess I'll wait for the next hint.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 8th, 2007, 12:17pm

on 01/08/07 at 06:22:49, denis wrote:
OK so its one from the list presumably. Is that the case?  If so, I can't find an association with one of those and with "Slow change" and Biology....

Guess I'll wait for the next hint.

*looks at hint 3*
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by hiyathere on Jan 8th, 2007, 12:17pm
Did anyone see my astronomer riddle yet? The answer for that one will help you solve this one.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by denis on Jan 8th, 2007, 12:27pm
OK then if  [hide]Lepus[/hide] is the answer, we have the following coordinates:

[hide]6hr -20o

So that would give us the following 3 digit code 620[/hide]
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 8th, 2007, 12:46pm

on 01/08/07 at 12:27:25, denis wrote:
OK then if  [hide]Lepus[/hide] is the answer, we have the following coordinates:

[hide]6hr -20o

So that would give us the following 3 digit code 620[/hide]

You were right before you made it 3 digits. ;)  (I changed it a bit.)
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by denis on Jan 8th, 2007, 12:53pm
Oh .. I though I had to cut it down to 3 digits from an ealrier post. Ok I revise my answer to the one immediately precceding my 3 digit code. Now how does the Slow change and Biology associate with this one? I still didnt get that part.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 8th, 2007, 1:52pm

on 01/08/07 at 12:53:33, denis wrote:
Oh .. I though I had to cut it down to 3 digits from an ealrier post. Ok I revise my answer to the one immediately precceding my 3 digit code. Now how does the Slow change and Biology associate with this one? I still didnt get that part.

[hideb]You had to find synonyms for 'Slow' and 'Change', hence the English part.  They would be 'Lag' and 'Morph'.  Putting them together you get 'lagomorph', which is the genus of rabbits, hence Biology, and you get it from there.[/hideb]
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by william11141 on Jan 8th, 2007, 3:34pm

  Poor bunny, luckily I have the ability to revive bunnies. (How ironic..) *WHOOAAA WHHOOAAA HOOFE!!!* Your bunny is OK now.
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by Locke64 on Jan 8th, 2007, 6:11pm

on 01/08/07 at 15:34:01, william11141 wrote:
  Poor bunny, luckily I have the ability to revive bunnies. (How ironic..) *WHOOAAA WHHOOAAA HOOFE!!!* Your bunny is OK now.

It's not my bunny.  It's hiyathere's. :P
Title: Re: Where is the Slow Change?
Post by hiyathere on Jan 9th, 2007, 4:42am

on 01/08/07 at 18:11:19, Locke64 wrote:
It's not my bunny.  It's hiyathere's. :P

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