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(Message started by: Iceman on Oct 24th, 2006, 10:51am)
Title: Space
Post by Iceman on Oct 24th, 2006, 10:51am
Without causing damage to it or folding it, how could a square picture with a side 50cm, fit in a cubic box with a side 25cm?       8)  
Title: Re: Space
Post by sofeffi on Oct 24th, 2006, 11:02am
pythagoras isn't helping me much  :P
Title: Re: Space
Post by sofeffi on Oct 24th, 2006, 11:02am
Is thsi anything to do with thinking outside the box?
Title: Re: Space
Post by towr on Oct 24th, 2006, 11:54am
[hide]Roll it up[/hide]? Although it'd still not be entirely in the box.
Title: Re: Space
Post by cchris on Oct 25th, 2006, 4:40pm
If only [hide]one side is 25 x 25[/hide], then it shouldn't be much of a problem. You see, [hide]the box is still cubic (meaning it has a volume). [/hide]
Title: Re: Space
Post by TheNumberScott on Oct 26th, 2006, 2:19pm
roll the picture as tightly as possible into a stick that is 50cm long. Then put on end into one of the bottom corners, and put the other end into the opposite top corner.
Title: Re: Space
Post by towr on Oct 26th, 2006, 2:53pm

on 10/26/06 at 14:19:31, TheNumberScott wrote:
roll the picture as tightly as possible into a stick that is 50cm long. Then put on end into one of the bottom corners, and put the other end into the opposite top corner.
from one end to another is only about 43 cm, so there's still not enough room even if you roll it into a line.
Title: Re: Space
Post by TheNumberScott on Oct 26th, 2006, 3:14pm
are you sure? I must have done some whack calculations then because I got 49.99cm

wait, I see my problem. Once I found the first hypotneuse, I thought that it would be another 45-45-90 triangle.

I hope that the riddle didn't make the same mistake I did, because it came out so perfect, I figured it had to be right.
Title: Re: Space
Post by Icarus on Oct 26th, 2006, 4:12pm
The 3-d pythagorean theorem is d2 = x2 + y2 + z2. More generally, the n-dimensional pythagorean theorem is d2 = x12 + x22 + ... + xn2.

In this case, the distance along the diagonal is sqrt(252 + 252 + 252) = 25 sqrt(3) = 43.30...
Title: Re: Space
Post by Iceman on Oct 27th, 2006, 5:24am
No to all guesses.   8)
Title: Re: Space
Post by Grimbal on Oct 31st, 2006, 1:46am

on 10/24/06 at 10:51:26, Iceman wrote:
Without causing damage to it or folding it, how could a square picture with a side 50cm, fit in a cubic box with a side 25cm?       8)  

Without causing damage to or folding the box?  ::)
Title: Re: Space
Post by Miles on Oct 31st, 2006, 4:01am
So putting it together...
[hide]Roll up the picture, then squash the box a bit.  If you get it to lean more than 30 degrees, the longest diagonal exceeds 50cm and you can put the picture in.[/hide]
Title: Re: Space
Post by Desert Lizard on Oct 31st, 2006, 5:48am
What if I [hide]open both ends of the box and hold it up with the picture behind it at just the right distance so I am looking through the box at the picture[/hide]?
Title: Re: Space
Post by Grimbal on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:07am

on 10/24/06 at 10:51:26, Iceman wrote:
Without causing damage to it or folding it, how could a square picture with a side 50cm, fit in a cubic box with a side 25cm?       8)  

Leonardo's Mona Lisa, maybe 1m on a side  could fit in my digital camera, maybe 10 cm on its longest side.  So what is the problem?
Title: Re: Space
Post by cchris on Oct 31st, 2006, 11:09am
Ah, duh. If the cubic box is a camera, it's not hard to do.
Title: Re: Space
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Oct 31st, 2006, 1:27pm
Again, great solution, cchris.  Let's just hope holes are allowed.
Title: Re: Space
Post by cchris on Oct 31st, 2006, 9:28pm
For the note, it wasn't my solution, I credit it completely to Grimbal, the usual solver of such riddles.
Title: Re: Space
Post by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot on Oct 31st, 2006, 10:03pm
Whoops, sorry Grimbal.  No disrespect intended, just don't know how to read above the last post.
Title: Re: Space
Post by Iceman on Nov 1st, 2006, 2:39am

on 10/31/06 at 01:46:36, Grimbal wrote:
Without causing damage to or folding the box?  ::)

Fine try, but you shouldn't damage or fold both items.



on 10/31/06 at 06:07:29, Grimbal wrote:
Leonardo's Mona Lisa, maybe 1m on a side  could fit in my digital camera, maybe 10 cm on its longest side.  So what is the problem?

A good idea, but I don't think this item looks exactly like a cubic box.  ;)



Desert Lizard and Miles: you are not allowed to manipulate the box like that. And note that just one plane surface is missing.


Title: Re: Space
Post by towr on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:03am
[hide]Take the jigsaw puzzle apart and put it in the box in pieces. There's no damage as it it was allready cut into jigsaw pieces.[/hide]
Title: Re: Space
Post by Iceman on Nov 3rd, 2006, 5:22am
You got it towr.  8)


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Title: Re: Space
Post by Icarus on Nov 3rd, 2006, 7:11pm
I know how to restore Pluto to its rightful place: Lets just nuke any other Kuiper belt object bigger than Charon, other than our proud snowball!


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