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(Message started by: Three Hands on Apr 11th, 2005, 7:15am)
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Three Hands on Apr 11th, 2005, 7:15am
Well, he could knock over his glass and wait for a waitress to clean it up, assuming the bar is 30m away...::)
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by BNC on Apr 11th, 2005, 9:12am
I think it might have to do with how stringent the definition of "contraption" is.

For example, he could spill a few drops on the table, and wiat for flys / bees to come to it and then fly away.
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Sjoerd Job Postmus on Apr 11th, 2005, 10:25am
Uhm... does his body count as a contraption?

Can't he just lift up the glass and toss it away?

Can the glass stay with the content, or should they be seperated?...
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by BNC on Apr 11th, 2005, 2:57pm
Is the bar located at a high place (cliff / skyscraper/plane)?
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Grimbal on Apr 12th, 2005, 12:29am
Is a [hide]stomach[/hide] a contraption?
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by towr on Apr 12th, 2005, 7:23am
Is John's position that Mark should lend him $3000  :P
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Grimbal on Apr 13th, 2005, 9:00am
Can he make use of [hide]Earth's rotation[/hide]?
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Sjoerd Job Postmus on Apr 13th, 2005, 12:16pm

on 04/13/05 at 11:33:14, alien wrote:
No.

I have a feeling that some of you are focusing on the bar. The bar is of no importance. John can pick any spot he likes in the town.

Does the town have a river?

Would his friend drink the coke, and then walk away: "You won't succeed anyway!"

when his friend is 30m away, John yells "I just did!"
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Sir Col on Apr 14th, 2005, 1:42pm
I guess that the conveyor belt at a Sushi bar is considered to be a contraption?


I know that you said he doesn't require assistance, but technically the following solutions are not utilising assistance: assistance usually requires collaboration and the waitress would be ignorant to the purpose of the request; it would be like saying that the midwife who oversaw the delivery of Adolf Hitler assisted in the murder of millions of Jews and Poles.

Could he not call the waitress over and say, "This coke is flat. Can I have another glass, please?", or just simply say, "Thank you, but I don't want anymore of this drink. Could you take the glass away, please?" Hopefully the glass, with its contents, would be removed and poured away.

Or could he place the coke in a sealable bottle and toss it across the room?

Note that even this last solution requires some form of assistance: gravity.
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Grimbal on Apr 15th, 2005, 12:56am
Without moving a finger, he tells that he knows about Mark and his secretary and that it would cost him much more than $3000 in his divorce case, so he propose they just pretend he did the coke trick.
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Sjoerd Job Postmus on Apr 15th, 2005, 1:51am

on 04/15/05 at 00:56:11, Grimbal wrote:
Without moving a finger, he tells that he knows about Mark and his secretary and that it would cost him much more than $3000 in his divorce case, so he propose they just preted he did the coke trick.

Unfortunately, Mark wasn't married anyway, so that didn't help either. ;) I think
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Grimbal on Apr 15th, 2005, 5:46am
The [hide]content of the glass[/hide], could it be [hide] ... air [/hide]?
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Padzok on Apr 18th, 2005, 3:40pm
I think that:

[hide]He already has his straw in his mouth.  So he doesnt' have to move his body to drink.[/hide]

AND

[hide]His intestines are 30m long, and the coke takes that journey.[/hide]
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by alien on Apr 21st, 2005, 5:07am

on 04/18/05 at 15:40:38, Padzok wrote:
I think that:

[hide]He already has his straw in his mouth.  So he doesnt' have to move his body to drink.[/hide]

I sure hope you're joking.


Focus on this part of the riddle: [hide]"..without any transferring contraption enabling you to do this.."[/hide]
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Sir Col on Apr 21st, 2005, 6:59am
As BNC said, I think we need to clarify what constitutes a contraption. I would define a contraption as a device, usually mechanical but could include living, which does work; or more generally tranforms energy from one type to another. As movement of matter is a form of energy and requires work to be done, a contraption is necessary.
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Padzok on Apr 21st, 2005, 3:17pm

on 04/21/05 at 05:07:50, alien wrote:
I sure hope you're joking.


Unfortunately, I was being serious.  :-[

So how long do we have?  And how much of the contents need to move?

If they've been sitting in the bar since your first post, then quite a lot of it wil have evaporated by now, and could be in the next continent.
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by honkyboy on Apr 25th, 2005, 8:55am
[hide]If he has a supply of napkins, he could ball them up, soak the coke into them and throw them.[/hide]
or
[hide]If there are no napkins, he could use his own clothing.  Tearing apart his undershirt or perhaps using his socks.[/hide]
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by alien on Apr 25th, 2005, 11:08am
That is not allowed.


on 04/21/05 at 15:17:32, Padzok wrote:
how much of the contents need to move?

Half a pint of Coke is enough.
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by honkyboy on Apr 25th, 2005, 1:10pm
Does the carbonation in the coke help him out?
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Padzok on Apr 25th, 2005, 2:38pm

So you ain't allowing evaporation then?  ;)

But what about [hide]drinking[/hide]?

Is that part of the solution?  ie do we have to figure out how he [hide]drinks it[/hide] without changing his position?
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by alien on Apr 26th, 2005, 4:04am

on 04/25/05 at 13:10:54, honkyboy wrote:
Does the carbonation in the coke help him out?

No.



on 04/25/05 at 14:38:14, Padzok wrote:
But what about [hide]drinking[/hide]?

Is that part of the solution?  ie do we have to figure out how he [hide]drinks it[/hide] without changing his position?

Nope.



on 04/25/05 at 14:38:14, Padzok wrote:
So you ain't allowing evaporation then?  ;)

No because it is unpractical and I think that only water would evaporate but you are on the right track.
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Grimbal on Apr 27th, 2005, 8:59am
Do nothing.  Just wait for somebody to call the elevator.
And who said the bar is not in an elevator?
Or one of these rotating restaurants?
Or a camping car?
Or a train?
Or the titanic just before it sank?
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by alien on Apr 30th, 2005, 11:14am
John has to try to transfer Coke standing in the open.
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by baddab457 on May 8th, 2005, 11:53am
i thought of a smiple but retarded solution

[hide]he simply just spills the coke over, and the force from the spill takes the coke 30m[/hide]

maybe  ???
since the original problem didnt say that the contents need stay in the glass, but the coke needs to move 30m away
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Grimbal on May 11th, 2005, 3:40pm
I got an unexpected tip from an informer.
[hide]Freeze the coke and slide it over (or throw it) to the other end of the room.[/hide]
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by Deedlit on May 12th, 2005, 9:25am
I dunno.  Is it likely that John can [hide]freeze the coke[/hide]  without changing his position?  Especially if he is standing out in the open.  :-/
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by honkyboy on May 13th, 2005, 11:48am
How would he freeze the coke without a heat transferring contraption?
Title: Re: Always Coca-Cola
Post by honkyboy on May 14th, 2005, 1:25pm
Sorry.  :-[

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