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(Message started by: THUDandBLUNDER on Feb 1st, 2005, 10:35am)

Title: Simultaneous Equations
Post by THUDandBLUNDER on Feb 1st, 2005, 10:35am
Find the real roots of the following set of equations:

x3yz + x2zy2 + 3z2xy = 315
2y2zx2 - 4yzx3 +  xz2y = 49
6z2yx - 4zx2y2 + 9zx3y = 6
 


Title: Re: Simultaneous Diophantine Equations
Post by Barukh on Feb 1st, 2005, 11:59am

on 02/01/05 at 10:35:30, THUDandBLUNDER wrote:
Find the real roots of the following set of equations:

How is this related to the subject of the thread?


Title: Re: Simultaneous Equations
Post by THUDandBLUNDER on Feb 1st, 2005, 12:09pm
Oops, typo.
Now corrected.
Thanx.

Title: Re: Simultaneous Equations
Post by Eigenray on Feb 1st, 2005, 3:20pm
A=x3yz, B=x2y2z, C=xyz2.
A + B + 3C = 315   (1)
-4A + 2B + C = 49  (2)
9A - 4B + 6C = 6     (3)

4A + 4B + 12C = 1260   (4) = 4*(1)
-8A + 4B + 2C = 98         (5) = 2*(2)
A + 0B + 8C = 104          (6) = (3) + (5)
6B + 13C = 1309             (7) = (2) + (4)
B - 5C = 211                     (8) = (1) - (6)
6B - 30C = 1266               (9) = 6*(8)
43C = 43                            (7)-(9)
C = 1
B = 216         (by 8)
A = 96           (by 6)

This tells us that z>0 and x,y have the same sign, so we may assume they're all positive, and write (u,v,w)=(log x, log y, log z):
3u + v + w = log A = a
2u + 2v + w = log B = b
u + v + 2w = log C = 0

3w = -b
2v + 5w = -a
v = (-a - 5w)/2 = (-a + 5b/3)/2 = -a/2 + 5b/6
u = -v-2w = -(-a/2 + 5b/6) + 2b/3 = a/2 - b/6

x = eu = A1/2/B1/6 = (253)1/2/(2333)1/6 = 4.
z = ew = 1/B1/3 = 1/6.
y = C/(xz2) = 62/4 = 9.

And there's also the solution (x,y,z)=(-4,-9,1/6).

Title: Re: Simultaneous Equations
Post by Grimbal on Feb 1st, 2005, 3:56pm
I did the same until
A = 96, B = 216, C = 1

Then, I did:
96 = x3 y z   [1]
216 = x2 y2 z   [2]
1 = x y z2   [3]

96/xyz = x2   [4]
216/xyz = x y   [5]
1/xyz = z   [6]

96 z = x2   [7] (from 4 and 6)
216 z = x y   [8] (from 5 and 6)

9 x = 4 y   [9] (from 7 and 8 )

1 = 216 z * z2   (from 3 and 8 )
==> z = 1/6
==> 16 = x^2   (from 7)
==> x = +- 4
==> y = +- 9   (from 9)

Title: Re: Simultaneous Equations
Post by Eigenray on Feb 16th, 2005, 11:54am
Sure, that's probably easier.  But I liked the idea of solving 3 linear equations in 3 unknowns... and then 3 more linear equations in 3 unknowns.



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