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Title: Mount Fuji Post by jojo on Oct 30th, 2003, 3:46am How would you move mount Fuji? |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Zen Master on Oct 30th, 2003, 4:13am Like a snail would climb it: o snail, climb mount fuji. but slowly, slowly. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by towr on Oct 30th, 2003, 4:49am I'd probably just wait, since all the different tectonic plates are moving, and the mountains on them move with it.. If I had to move it to a specific place it'd be a different story.. I suppose it isn't really possible to move it as a whole without changing it so much that it isn't really fuji anymore.. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Icarus on Oct 30th, 2003, 4:38pm I've seen magicians do this trick on TV in front of a live audience (Not with Fuji, but with other landmarks). As I understand it, the audience is actually in on the trick, and is only there to fool the TV viewers into thinking special effects (in particular, an rotating stage for the magician to work on) are not used. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Archimedes on Oct 31st, 2003, 12:28am Archimedes once said give me a place to stand to and i will move the earth. I will build a supporting point near mount Fuji. I will build a lever which will be wide at the one end and will be so long it will go in space. So i build a space ship and go in space so i pull it and move mount Fuji. Or maybe just move the whole earth so the mount moves with it. ;D |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by maryl on Nov 2nd, 2003, 2:20pm I would take a picture. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Sir Col on Nov 2nd, 2003, 3:13pm Good answer, maryl. ;) What actually IS mount Fuji? If I took away one pebble, it would still be mount Fuji, so how much would need to be removed before it ceases to be mount Fuji? When I remove that final piece of rock, such that everyone agrees that it is no longer mount Fuji, would re-assembling it at another location recreate mount Fuji? As towr has suggested, what makes it mount Fuji is both its location and appearance; alter one of those properties, and surely it ceases to be mount Fuji. However, if we accept that any object IS the parts that make it up, then would picking up a single pebble constitute moving mount Fuji? |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by maryl on Nov 2nd, 2003, 3:25pm :) Just a thought but taking a strand of my hair from my head and walking away with it wouldn't constitute walking away with me, only my hair, but then again if you want to use that hair as my DNA and create a clone (God forbid), then hm, would it be me? (I know it's a little more complicated than that) A pebble is far from being a mountain. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by towr on Nov 2nd, 2003, 3:33pm Many objects are more than the parts it makes up.. If you take a computer apart and throw the parts in a box, so they're all still together, then it is no longer a computer. Because a computer is an object that can male computations, and the parts of the box can't do that unless they are in their proper order and connected. So we have to look at other, perhaps non-material, elements of mount Fuji. In one sense you could say that if you have fond memories of mount Fuji (for whatever reason), then you take it with you in your heart (metaphorically for the nitpickers), wherever you go. And a picture can also help in that regard. If you cut up the mountain and move it to disneyland, it's very likely it will loose much of the spiritual appeal it has to certain people. So in a sense "it's just not the same" then, and it's no longer mount Fuji (as they knew it). |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by towr on Nov 2nd, 2003, 3:40pm on 11/02/03 at 15:25:05, maryl wrote:
And you don't have to move all of something at once to move it.. So maybe moving the mountain one pebble at a time counts.. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Icarus on Nov 2nd, 2003, 7:19pm Quote:
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Perhaps you should change your login to "Sir Zen"! You seem to be asking all the philosophical questions now. :D Alas that you should be forced to put up with a pragmatist like me. "Mount Fuji is that big hunk of stone and dirt in Japan. Go to Tokyo and look around - you can't miss it." "If they were two places, then no - they wouldn't be the same at any time." ;) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by towr on Nov 3rd, 2003, 12:37am He didn't say two different places.. Besides, McDonalds is pretty much the same all over the world, and that's many different places :P |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by TimMann on Nov 3rd, 2003, 12:42am Hmm. Can we say that a nearby earthquake moves Mount Fuji? It is not permanently relocated, but the seismic waves certainly make it move, as anyone standing on it would tell you. If so, then I will climb Mount Fuji and jump up and down. My tiny earthquake won't move it much, but I'll move it a little. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by towr on Nov 3rd, 2003, 2:02am Maybe I'll try telling mount Fuji a touching story, that might move it ;) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Sir Col on Nov 3rd, 2003, 9:38am on 11/03/03 at 00:42:55, TimMann wrote:
;D *hilarious images of the little boy in your avatar desperately jumping up and down* "Move, damn you, move!" |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by william wu on Nov 3rd, 2003, 6:18pm These are great answers! Much better than my gut response, which was something like ... use lots of dynamite. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by TimMann on Nov 3rd, 2003, 10:12pm on 11/03/03 at 09:38:34, Sir Col wrote:
My avatar is me at age two. My mom would have washed out my mouth with soap if I'd said that. :) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by visitor on Nov 4th, 2003, 10:24am What you need is a really big gopher that can make a molehill out of a mountain. Or maybe a Fujito truck. Or ask Mohammed; the mountain will come to him. Or Einstein; movement is all relative anyway. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Speaker on Nov 5th, 2003, 12:49am It's a trick question, the proof of this lies partially in that it is in the Microsoft section. How would you move Mount Fuji? I would sit calmly in my interviewee chair and say, "The mountain is already moving, this is so regardless of anything I would or would not do." :) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by towr on Nov 6th, 2003, 12:20am on 10/30/03 at 03:46:25, jojo wrote:
Besides, moving it would be a violation of the Creators copyright, my end-user license only allows very minor changes ;) I you want it moved you will just have to upgrade to Earth-XP ;D |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Icarus on Nov 6th, 2003, 5:32pm It's easy to move Mount Fuji. How far do you want it moved? Just for demonstration, let's say a simple 5 feet. [gets up, walks across office.] There you go. Mount Fuji, and the rest of the universe just moved 5 feet. Anything else I can do for you? |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by jpursell on Nov 17th, 2003, 7:11pm How would you move mount Fuji? The bible says that you can move mountains, if you believe. So find Jesus. DISCLAIMER: This is sort of a joke answer. I'm not trying to convert anyone. My real answer would be to just let it move itself, since it is already. Given that no time or space restrictions exist. Jason |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Bjorn S on Nov 18th, 2003, 2:27pm on 10/30/03 at 03:46:25, jojo wrote:
How would you move xxxxxxxxx? Done ;D |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Bjorn Stadil on Nov 18th, 2003, 2:34pm on 10/30/03 at 03:46:25, jojo wrote:
Since Mount Fuji is a totallity of rocks and stuff I would take one pebble from the north side and move to the south side. In principel than totality was moved. Not much but moved. Like when you move a pile of leaf you do not need to put them back in the precise order or structure they were originally |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by otter on Nov 18th, 2003, 7:48pm on 10/30/03 at 03:46:25, jojo wrote:
In small quantities over very large periods of time. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by James Fingas on Nov 19th, 2003, 1:50pm I would walk up to mount Fuji and kick it. The sound wave, although too small to be detected, would move every portion of the mountain by a small amount as it propogates through the rock. I would then conclude the remainder of my seven-week vacation in the locales of mount Fuji secure in the knowledge that I had moved a mountain ;D |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Icarus on Nov 20th, 2003, 4:47pm That one will not necessarily work. If your kick is too small, the soundwave amplitude will drop below the level of quantum noise before it can propagate to the whole mountain. Once it drops that low, it ceases to exist. So instead of kicking it (hard on the toes anyway), you could bring a sledge hammer, find a solid rock outcropping, and give it a good whack. This may be enough produce a sufficiently large wave to be detectable with sensitive equipment on the opposite side of the mountain. However, even then, there is the question of whether wave is able to propagate to all portions of the mountain through the loose dirt. Maybe some explosives... |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Speaker on Nov 20th, 2003, 5:31pm That's it! Explosives. But, where to find the kind of explosives we need? Start a campaign of propaganda in the world press claiming that weapons of mass destruction are hidden in a cave deep under Mount Fuji. Then have a UN commission come to search for the cave. (It doesn't exist, so they won't find it, but that is a trivial matter.) Then foment greater fear and hate in those countries that do have weapons of mass destruction until popular opinion grants a mandate to the leaders of those countries allowing them to drop newly developed bunker busting bombs (weapons of small destruction). This will have the effect of moving Mount Fuji into the upper atmosphere where it will float around until it comes to rest (in part anyway) in Redmond Washington, proving beyond a doubt to the interviewer of your great skill and leadership ability. Resulting in you getting the job as manager of Media Relations where you assume the title of Spin Meister Grande, and succeed in getting Bill Gates elected as King of the World. :P |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by krakaduza on Nov 21st, 2003, 6:17am True LOVE can move a mountain. So i will fall in love with some pretty girl and our mutual love, strong desire, dreams and affection will move mount Fuji. ;) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by william wu on Nov 21st, 2003, 5:28pm on 11/21/03 at 06:17:09, krakaduza wrote:
Nice answer! "Oh, what a feelin's just come over me Love can move a mountain, make a blind man see Everybody sing it now come on let's go see Deep in the valley now, we ought to be free" - Rascals - People Got To Be Free Another possible answer: Mt. Fuji is still classified as an active volcano, although it has a "low risk of eruption" (http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Fuji). So if you wait long enough, the volcano might erupt and move itself. Another avenue: Play with the Japanese mythology surrounding Mt. Fuji. Also, as indicated by a jpursell, "moving mountains" is a metaphor very frequently found in religious rhetoric. Maybe your Microsoft interviewer is a believer :) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by maryl on Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:05am What eats rocks, levels mountains, rusts metal, pushes the clouds across the sky, and can make a young man old? |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by TenaliRaman on Nov 28th, 2003, 1:01pm the answer to maryl's question would be time i think. and come to think of it. How would i move mount Fuji? i would travel in time. Maybe that's what Maryl is hinting to. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by maryl on Dec 1st, 2003, 5:31pm Tick Tock |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Yoda on Jan 22nd, 2004, 7:05pm Interviewer: How would you move Mt. Fuji? Me: Ahh! You've met my cat. Open a can of tuna fish and Mt. Fuji will come running. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Sir Col on Jan 26th, 2004, 1:20pm Nice answer, Yoda. I like it! ;D |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by John_Gaughan on Jan 27th, 2004, 6:00am That reminds me of one of those email jokes about a dog named "sex." Certain riddles can be solved if you name a person or a pet a word from the riddle and manipulate it like this. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Speaker on Mar 30th, 2004, 5:39pm That reminds me of a joke: A little girl comes up to her father and asks, "Daddy, what's sex?" The father is flustered, but decides it is time to explain the birds and the bees to his pre-school daughter. After he explains everything, he decides he should find out the source of his young daughter's new found interest. So, he asks her, "Why did you ask about sex?" The little girl says, "Because Mommy says dinner will be ready in a couple of secs." |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Sir Col on Apr 1st, 2004, 12:07pm *chuckle* ;D Thanks for that, Speaker! |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by SingGloryHallejuah on Apr 1st, 2004, 7:00pm Jesus said, "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." (Matthew 17: 20) I suppose if you have the faith to move Mt. Fugi, you can, but where would moving Mt. Fugi get you in life? |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by grimbal on Apr 30th, 2004, 1:55am This is the microsoft forum right? Just make a big advertisement campain that shows that Mt Fuji is actually that other mountain somewhere else in Japan. Let people forget about the "old" Mt Fuji. Mt Fuji is Mt Fuji only because people call it Mt Fuji. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Vikont on Jul 12th, 2004, 10:07am If you blow a large hole underneath mt Fuji, it will drop down under its own weight. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by RollyF on Aug 7th, 2004, 11:50pm If you are a programmer, write a class of object and name it MyFuji. Write a Move method with the coordinates as parameters. Now instantiate that class and call its Move method. What programming language to use is not that important but you'll get extra lollipop if you do it in Visual Basic.NET. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Three Hands on Aug 9th, 2004, 9:06am Maybe you could just take a short walk. In doing so, the position of Mt. Fuji will have cahnged relative to yourself, and so you will have "moved" Mt. Fuji (as well as the rest of the objects in the universe). Of course, the fact that Mt. Fuji is constantly moving, since it is a part of a tectonic plate which is moving on the surface of the Earth, which is spinning on its own axis while orbitting the Sun, which is moving as part of an outer arm of the Milky Way Galaxy, etc. Given all of this, I would imagine it would be harder to keep Mt. Fuji stationary :D . (Granted, this method does rely on some absolute means of determining position, hence why I started with the relative space answer...) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Patashu on Aug 15th, 2004, 3:18am Ah, this is an easy one... According to the pokedex of Pokemon Yellow, Machamp can move mountains with only one of it's hands. http://pokemonpalace.net/pokedex/machamp.htm Thus, all I have to do is open a dimensional/temporal wormhole, retrieve a Machamp from it and coax it into moving Mt. Fuji. Problem solved! |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by bishwa on Aug 16th, 2004, 2:48pm If I was asked this at an interview my instinct would be ask how much budget spend I was allowed. However, I vaguely remember my Physics teacher at school drumming on about conservation of motion. I think it went along the lines of if I jumped up the earth jumps away from me. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by coolnfundu on Nov 3rd, 2004, 9:19pm humn how about starting to move away from mount fiji ... that should move it right ::) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by towr on Nov 4th, 2004, 1:03am on 11/03/04 at 21:19:27, coolnfundu wrote:
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Grimbal on Nov 4th, 2004, 10:19am on 08/16/04 at 14:48:53, bishwa wrote:
I'm not sure the Earth is actually moving down and up when you jump up and down. The effect of jumping up and down would rather send seismic waves from the spot where you are jumping. Seismic waves spread at 8 km/h, so that it can take an hour to reach the other side of the Earth. Mt Fuji would eventually move, but rather like a cork on water. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by coolnfundu on Nov 5th, 2004, 12:57am on 11/04/04 at 01:03:01, towr wrote:
n so we dont want that to be the case, earth is already moving and so is almost everything on it ... always anyways ;D so anything that appear stationary is infact stationary because we are not moving wrt to it ... so to move it, or ourselves, move either the object or yourself and you would move it ... |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Icarus on Nov 9th, 2004, 9:14pm coolnfundu is correct. Movement is with respect to an observer. If I choose myself as the observer I am moving Mt. Fuji with respect to, the job is trivial. But I must "humbly" point out that coolnfundu is not first with this observation: on 11/06/03 at 17:32:56, Icarus wrote:
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by towr on Nov 10th, 2004, 12:54am on 11/09/04 at 21:14:48, Icarus wrote:
Not that I think majority opinion is generally right, but when it comes to the meaning of words it's another matter. Besides, I don't like observer-relativism. We have a whole universe with respect to which things can move, no observer necessary. And it's easy to say, "oh but the whole earth and thus mount Fuji is already moving", but that doesn't change that _you_ didn't move it, at the least you'd have to add to the movement for it to count. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Grimbal on Nov 10th, 2004, 6:54am For instance if someone tells you: "I need to go get something. Don't move until I'm back." He doesn't mean you should follow him and remain at the same position relatively to him. ;D |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Speaker on Nov 10th, 2004, 4:39pm Grimbal lol. My dog, he understands Einstein's observer relative physics better than I do. I tell him to stay, and he does, right next to me. Even if I run as fast as I can. Next time I will tell him to stay in motion so that he remains still in relation to the earth. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Icarus on Nov 11th, 2004, 7:12pm on 11/10/04 at 00:54:53, towr wrote:
Actually, when fully explained, I think the vast majority would agree. To say that something moved means that it changed position. But what determines "position"? Position can only be described in terms of other objects. Since objects do move with respect to each other, you are faced with a choice of which objects define your "fixed" positions. But we regularly switch this reference frame when it suits us. Most of the time, we choose the earth as defining our references. But when convenient we will switch to one based on the "fixed stars" within our galaxy, or on one based on relative positions of galaxies. But even these are not truly fixed, as the galaxies are in motion with respect to each other. And there are plenty of times when our position references are centered around ourselves (e.g. "He is behind me"). In my answer, I have simply chosen an egocentric reference frame in a situation that is normally thought of in terracentric terms. Because the egocentric frame is not usually applied here does not make it invalid, just uncommon. Quote:
I agree, but the fact is, the (100%) majority does agree with me in usage, even if they don't realize they do it. Quote:
Your universe is the "observer" in this case. (Except that it is the objects within the universe that determine position, not the universe itself - there is no default axes or orientation to the universe itself, so far as we know. The existance of such would violate conservation of momentum, which all evidence points to as being universal). "Observer" does not mean a person or apparatus in Relativity (its meaning in Quatum Mechanics is up for debate). Rather "observer" is simply a synonym for a reference frame. Quote:
An excellent example of switching to a stellar-centric reference frame. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by algo_wrencher on Sep 30th, 2005, 2:07pm Move out into space over the mount fuji using a helicopter and reach an altitude from where earth looks like a ball. Now use a high power telescope to watch Mt Fuji. As earth rotates on its axis, Mt. Fuji will move..... 8) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Speaker on Oct 2nd, 2005, 6:00pm To do that you need a really good helicopter. ::) Anyway, I just read through all the posts, and Wu-sama suggested using Japanese mythology. Well, just recently I heard the story of Mt. Fuji and Mt. Yatsugatake. It seems that in the misty reaches of the time before history the mountains of Japan were not as friendly as they have grown to be over the years. The Goddess of Mt. Fuji was beautiful and everyone knew it. She made sure that everyone new it. She was the best and most beautiful and tallest mountain in Japan. But then the God of Mt. Yatsugatake pointed out that actually he was taller, just a little bit maybe, but taller is taller afterall. This of course made the Goddess of Mt. Fuji furious. She wouldn't believe it and demanded proof. So, a test was devised. The world's largest half-pipe was built. (unfortunately this was before the invention of the skateboard, so it was total hell-of bummer that no one was able to go big on this half-pipe (ed.)) So, an engineer from the local gods & goddess union placed the huge half-pipe (which was about 500 kilometers long) so that one end rested on top of Mt. Fuji and the other on Mt. Yatsugatake. Then, water was poured into the middle of the half-pipe. Everyone knows that water flows downhill, so whichever way the water flowed indicated the shorter of the two mountains. Well, it turns out that Mt. Fuji was shorter than that upstart Mt. Yatsugatake. The water flowed down onto Mt. Fuji's velvety white slopes and got her foothills all muddy. Well, this made Mt. Fuji so mad that she picked up that half-pipe and walked over to Mt. Yatsugatake and started whacking him across the top of his crest smashing him down until he was shorter than Mt. Fuji. This gave him a rather lumpy appearance because Mt. Fuji did not bother to smooth out her work. To this day you can still see the bits she left sticking up between the huge dents she made. So, to move Mt. Fuji, just start a rumor that Mt. Asahi is taller than Mt. Fuji, and soon enough She will pick up her skirts and march right over there to knock that one down to size too. Just try it. Go ahead, you think she won't? You got another think coming. Give the lady some respect. She's still got that half-pipe in the kitchen someplace. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by heheheh on Oct 28th, 2005, 9:49am Take one step in any direction. Conservation of momentum dictates that mount fuji has rotated to compensate for your displacement. Alternatively, Microsoft has the resources to aquire nuclear weapons, and the money to settle out of court after using them. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by Gautam on Dec 12th, 2005, 3:34pm Every motion is relative... so if u want to move mount fuji... then u just need to do is move urself...mount fuji is moved automatically |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by ajitknox on Feb 3rd, 2006, 8:13pm I would take a picture of Mt.Fuji. Then goto my dual monitor machine which runs Win XP. Then i would open MS Paint in the left monitor and open my picture. I will type in Mount Fuji at the bottom of the picture..Save the file in JPG format and call it Mount_Fiji.jpg. THen i would goto my desktop, right click on the image icon on the desktop and drag so that XP gives me the option "Move Here". So I use the world of software powered by Windows to move Mount Fiji.. The question that is left for the interviewer now is, why am i using a dual monitor machine to accomplish this?? ;) |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by egnorant on Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:03am How would I move Mt. Fuji??? Respectfully of course!! Or I could get a really big conveyor belt and a bunch of jet engines........ Bruce |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by WombatDeath on Aug 25th, 2006, 4:08pm I would wait for the constituent particles of Mount Fuji to spontaneously and simultaneously shift an observable distance in the same direction. If it appeared that this method was likely to be rendered unnecessary by an external factor, such as the imminent destruction of the earth, I would construct an apparatus to lift Mount Fuji, move it an observable distance and set it back down upon the earth. |
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Title: Re: Mount Fuji Post by manusharma12 on Jun 12th, 2007, 9:28am i will make a folder in a drive name "Mount Fuji" then move it to another drive... |
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