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(Message started by: cool_joh on Jun 9th, 2008, 1:48am)

Title: Prove x^y+y^x>1
Post by cool_joh on Jun 9th, 2008, 1:48am
Prove that the inequality xy+yx>1 holds for any positive reals x and y.

Title: Re: Prove x^y+y^x>1
Post by Aryabhatta on Jun 9th, 2008, 6:18pm
This below seems to work, but I have a strange feeling something is wrong somewhere...

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Assume that both x and y lie in (0,1) (otherwise, we are done).

Now wlog assume that y1/(1-y) >= x1/(1-x)

Note that, this implies that

xy-1/yx-1 >= 1 -- ( A )

Now Consider S =   (xy + yx)1/x

= [yx(1 + xy/yx)]1/x

= y(1 + xy/yx)1/x

Now since 1/x > 1, by Bernoulli's  inequality that (1+x)r >= 1 + rx for x > -1 and r >= 1

we have that

S >= y(1 + xy-1/yx)
 = y + xy-1/yx-1 >= y + 1
(by A)

Thus S >= 1 + y > 1

Since S > 1, Sx > 1 and we are done.

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Title: Re: Prove x^y+y^x>1
Post by wonderful on Jun 12th, 2008, 10:31pm
Here is another solution:

[hide]Case 1:   Either x,y >= 1 then  x^y >=1  or y^x >=1

=> x^y + y^x >1

Case 2: x,y<1

By Bernoulli inequality, we have:
x^y = [1 + (x-1)]^y >= 1 + y(x-1)
=> x^y + y -1 >=  xy

Likewise:
y^x + x-1 >= xy

Thus, if we can show  2xy+1>= x+y the x^y + y^x > 1.

This is true since (x-1)(y-1)+xy>0 given <0x,y<1[/hide]

Have A Great Day!



Title: Re: Prove x^y+y^x>1
Post by Aryabhatta on Jun 13th, 2008, 1:12am

on 06/12/08 at 22:31:48, wonderful wrote:
Here is another solution:

Case 2: x,y<1

By Bernoulli inequality, we have:
x^y = [1 + (x-1)]^y >= 1 + y(x-1)
=> x^y + y -1 >=  xy


wonderful, in case the exponent is between 0 and 1, the Bernoulli inequality is reversed, i.e

(1+x)^r <= 1 + rx, so the application here is incorrect.


Title: Re: Prove x^y+y^x>1
Post by wonderful on Jun 13th, 2008, 1:37pm
Thanks Aryabhatta! You are right.

Have A Great Day!



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