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Title: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 7th, 2008, 4:51am This is based on [link=http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/riddles/hard.shtml#circularJailCell]Circular Jail Cell[/link]. August and Bernhard work at a circular jail with 100 cells, numbered 1-100. Bernhard's job is to lock the cells, but he's a little bit funny: for each cell n that August tells him to lock, Bernhard will go around and toggle cells n, 2n, 3n, ..., locking them if they are unlocked, and unlocking them if they are locked. So if August tells Bernhard to lock some set S of cells, then assuming the cells start out unlocked, the ones that actually end up locked is another set T, which is a function of S, say T = Z(S). So the original riddle is to determine Z(C), where C = {1,2,3,...} is the complete set of cells. Now suppose all the cells are unlocked, and August needs a certain subset T of them locked. Luckily, there's always a unique set S = M(T) such that if August tells Bernhard to lock set S, the ones that actually end up locked will be precisely T, i.e., T=Z(S). In other words, the function M is the inverse of Z. What is M(T), when: (S) T = {1,4,9,...} is the set of squares? :P (C) T is the set of cubes? (K) T is the set of perfect k-th powers, for some fixed k>1? (P) T is the set of primes? (1) T = {1}? (SF) T is the set of [link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square-free_integer]square-free integers[/link]? (BT) Let S0 = T0={1}, and recursively define Sn+1=M(Sn), Tn+1 = Z(Tn). What are Sn and Tn? And most importantly, why did I call the two functions Z and M? |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by SMQ on Jan 7th, 2008, 7:13am I don't have a function, but I have an algorithm. ;) Based on the simple observation that [hide]no i in S affects any elements of T < i[/hide]: [hide]given T, let sets S and U be initially empty for each 1 <= i <= 100: if (i in T and not i in U) or (i in U and not i in T) add i to S for each i <= j <= 100, j = 0 (mod i) if j in U remove j from U else add j to U [/hide] The obvious results to interpret are: S: [hide]all integers[/hide] :P 1: [hide]the squarefree integers[/hide] SF: [hide]the perfect squares[/hide] --SMQ |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 7th, 2008, 8:05am on 01/07/08 at 07:13:37, SMQ wrote:
The first two are right. Do you have a proof for the second one? |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by SMQ on Jan 7th, 2008, 8:33am Ahh, yes, for SF I missed that it's only the [hide]squares of squarefree numbers[/hide]. :-[ And no, I have no proofs, just lists of numbers. :) I generally start from the empirical and work toward the analytical... --SMQ |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Joe Fendel on Jan 7th, 2008, 12:16pm on 01/07/08 at 04:51:06, Eigenray wrote:
Let N be a number with prime factorization p0n0*...*pini. Then N is in S if and only if all ni are congruent to 0 or 1 (mod 3). Proof: Let M be a number with prime factorization q0m0*...*qimi. Then how many factors of M fit the criteria above? It's the product of: a) For all mi = 0 (mod 3): (2*(mi / 3) + 1)* b) For all mi = 1 (mod 3): 2*((mi + 2) / 3)* c) For all mi = 2 (mod 3): 2*((mi + 1) / 3)* Thus, the number of factors is even unless all mi = 0 (mod 3), which is equivalent to M being a cube. Thus, with S defined as above, T is the set of cubes. |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Aryabhatta on Jan 7th, 2008, 12:16pm Cute twist Eigenray! [hide] Moo! [/hide] btw, isn't it [hide]Ferdinand[/hide] and not [hide]Bernhard[/hide] ;)? |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Joe Fendel on Jan 7th, 2008, 2:30pm on 01/07/08 at 12:16:26, Joe Fendel wrote:
Occurs to me now that this method works for perfect K-th powers also, replacing "3" with "K". In fact, works for perfect squares, too - and results in S being all integers. |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 7th, 2008, 4:58pm on 01/07/08 at 14:30:12, Joe Fendel wrote:
Yes, exactly! More generally, what happens if T is defined by [hide]an allowable set of exponents for each prime[/hide]? on 01/07/08 at 12:16:39, Aryabhatta wrote:
No, they're two different people ;D But I take it you know the formula for M(T)? Here are two more: (PO) As before, Sn=Mn({1}), Tn=Zn({1}). Determine the partial order on the sets {Sn} and on {Tn} (I haven't actually worked out the latter but it seems doable.) I realize now it would have been better to call these sets An and Bn, respectively. Oh well. (PP) What is M(T), where T is the set of prime powers? All perfect powers? And of course, (BONUS) Anything else you can think of! |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Aryabhatta on Jan 7th, 2008, 7:28pm on 01/07/08 at 16:58:39, Eigenray wrote:
I guess... ;) Anyway I think this is the formula for M(T) [hide] if t(n) is the indicator function for T, i.e t(k) = 1 if k is in T, else t(k) = 0 then the indicator function s for S = M(T) is given by s(n) = sum{d | n} mu(d) * t(n/d) mod 2 where mu is the mobius function. Basically, this is the mobius inversion formula. [/hide] |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Joe Fendel on Jan 8th, 2008, 8:13am on 01/07/08 at 16:58:39, Eigenray wrote:
Let's consider A to be a subset of positive integers which are "allowable exponents" for members of T. That is, T consists of all numbers N such that when N is decomposed into N = p0n0*...*pini, then all the nk are in A. (So in the case of T = perfect kth powers, A is simply all multiples of k.) Then let B be all numbers m such that either: m in A and m-1 not in A or m not in A and m-1 in A (So in the case of T = perfect kth powers, B is the set of numbers = 0 or 1 mod k.) Then S will consist of all numbers M such that when M is decomposed into M = p0m0*...*pimi, we have all mi in B. |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by balakrishnan on Jan 8th, 2008, 8:46am [hide]Let f(N) represent the indicator function that the door will be ordered to be closed. Then in order to get all the kth powers closed we need f(p1m1p2m2...pnmn) =1 if mi==1(mod)k where i is the smallest index such that mi%k!=0 f(p1m1p2m2...pnmn) =1 if mi==0(mod)k for all i f(p1m1p2m2...pnmn) =0 if mi==r(mod)k and 2<=r<=k-1 where i is the smallest index such that mi%k!=0 [/hide] This is just 1 solution. Note that many solutions can be obtained by permuting the order of primes. |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Joe Fendel on Jan 8th, 2008, 11:00am on 01/07/08 at 04:51:06, Eigenray wrote:
This turned out to be a pretty tricky one, so I'll hide my answer: [hideb]S is the set of numbers which are either: (Type A) A prime-square times a squarefree number (relatively prime to the square) or (Type B) A product of an odd number of distinct primes. Here's the proof: First I claim that any N which is not a prime power contains an even number of "Type A" divisors. For each prime p such that p2 divides N, there is a divisor for every squarefree divisor of N relatively prime to p, which is equal to 2i-1, where i is the number of prime divisors of N. Since N is not a prime power, i > 1, and thus there is an even number of "Type A" divisors for each p2 which divides N, and thus a total even number of "Type A" divisors. Next I claim that any N which is not a prime power contains an even number of "Type B" divisors. Let i be the number of prime divisors of N, and let D be the largest squarefree divisor of N (ie the product of all i primes which divide N). Suppose i is odd. Then exactly half of all squarefree divisors of N are odd, since for any squarefree divisor d, either d or D/d contains an odd number of primes. Thus the total number of "Type B" divisors is 2i/2, which, since i > 1, is even. Suppose i is even. Then we can pair the squarefree divisors into couples of {d, D/d}, and for each pair either both numbers are "Type B" divisors or neither are. Therefore the number of "Type B" divisors is even. That shows that all N which are not prime powers are outside T. So let N = pi. If i=0 (N=1), then N contains 0 divisors in S, so N is not in T. If i=1, (N=p) then p is the only divisor of N which is in S, so N is in T. If i>1, then p and p2 are the only divisors of N which are in S, so N is not in T. Thus T contains all, and only, prime numbers. [/hideb] |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Hippo on Jan 8th, 2008, 2:10pm on 01/07/08 at 16:58:39, Eigenray wrote:
It's easier than primes ... just take products of odd number of primes. How many times p1^n1.p2^n2.p3^n3...pk^nk is (un)locked? \sum_{i odd} {k \choose i}. Pair {k \choose i} with {k \choose k-i}. For k odd we pair missing in sum with presented so the sum equals 2^{k-1}. For k=0(mod 4) each is paired so the sum is even. For k=2 (mod 4) all except the {k \choose k/2} are paired. But {2i \choose i}=2{2i-1\choose i-1} is even. So the only case when the sum is odd is k=1. The power of prime. :) I was interupted ... I wanted originaly to hide it ;), but as it was already quoted ... |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Joe Fendel on Jan 8th, 2008, 2:32pm on 01/08/08 at 14:10:11, Hippo wrote:
Is 1 considered a "prime power"? I would think so (it's 20, for example), but this method misses them. If we decide that it is, then just take products of even numbers of distinct primes instead! |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 8th, 2008, 4:31pm on 01/07/08 at 19:28:24, Aryabhatta wrote:
Right, but it can be simplified a bit... Quote:
But have you figured out the relevance of the letter Z? on 01/08/08 at 08:46:16, balakrishnan wrote:
I don't understand why you order the primes: they're all treated equally, and there's a unique solution for S. For example, nothing of the form pq2 would be in it for K>2. on 01/08/08 at 11:00:44, Joe Fendel wrote:
Right again. Do you see how to use Aryabhatta's post for a simpler derivation? (Though I'm not sure how you derived it.) |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 8th, 2008, 4:33pm on 01/08/08 at 08:13:35, Joe Fendel wrote:
Exactly! Does this process look familiar? (If not, you're in for a treat ;)) Note that this works whenever T is 'multiplicative' and treats all primes equally, which is actually all parts except (P) and (PP). Try part (BT)! [And then figure out why it's called (BT).] Most of the others are special cases of this one. on 01/08/08 at 14:10:11, Hippo wrote:
on 01/08/08 at 14:32:44, Joe Fendel wrote:
These two posts, taken together, contain a clever solution of (1). Do you see it? |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Aryabhatta on Jan 8th, 2008, 5:31pm on 01/08/08 at 16:31:41, Eigenray wrote:
This one beats me, I see no relevance of 'Z'. Let me see if I can simplify the formula for M(T) a bit more, but I am not sure if I will be able to do it... |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by balakrishnan on Jan 8th, 2008, 9:40pm Yes true: all numbers that have the prime powers to be either 0 or 1 will be in the set.(in order to get the kth powers closed) |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by balakrishnan on Jan 8th, 2008, 10:55pm [hide]My observation is that the set P is the set of the products of odd number of primes(ie product of 1 prime,3 primes...)+ the set of all numbers N=2^m1 3^m2 5 ^m3... such that exactly one of m1,m2.. is 2 and the others are either 0 or 1. In other words if N=2m1 3m2...pkmk, then N is included in P iff atleast one of mi is non-zero and atmost one of mi exceeds 1 and none of mi exceeds 2 and if all of mis are 0 or 1, then odd number of mi's are ones [/hide] |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Hippo on Jan 9th, 2008, 4:19am on 01/08/08 at 16:33:01, Eigenray wrote:
The square-free numbers were cited before and I am not sure Joe added 1 combining these results or modifies slightly the original proof. (The argument for i even in sums is almost same except k=2 (mod 4) and k=0 (mod 4) cases changes role and for k=0 {0 \choose 0} = 2{-1 \choose -1} cannot be used.) |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 9th, 2008, 6:20am on 01/09/08 at 04:19:31, Hippo wrote:
What I mean is, given the following two facts: Z(products of odd # of distinct primes) = {all prime powers, except 1}, Z(products of even # of distinct primes) = {all prime powers, including 1}, can you derive M({1})? |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Hippo on Jan 9th, 2008, 7:05am on 01/09/08 at 06:20:23, Eigenray wrote:
I expect most of us understand that Z(A xor B)=Z(A) xor Z(B) ... and therefore as well M(A xor B)=M(A) xor M(B) ;) ... but the observation is interesting ;) |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 9th, 2008, 10:34pm So, M and Z distribute over addition, kind of like how multiplication would... |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Hippo on Jan 10th, 2008, 12:02am on 01/09/08 at 22:34:30, Eigenray wrote:
Addition ... the symmetric difference of sets. What multiplication on sets do you mean :)? |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 10th, 2008, 1:35am That's the question ;) |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Aryabhatta on Jan 11th, 2008, 2:20pm Not sure what you are aiming at Eigenray. Do you mean that we can treat them as vectors over F2 and that Z(v) is just a linear transformation? (Multiplication by a suitable matrix)? Mutiplication would probably be the dot product :-/ |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 11th, 2008, 9:43pm Suppose that for any set X there is a jailor who, when told to open door n, instead toggles all doors { nx : x in X }. Then there is a multiplication · on http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/YaBBImages/symbols/scrp.gif(http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/YaBBImages/symbols/bbn.gif) such that the effect jailor X has, given instructions Y, is X(Y) = X·Y. Can you think of some way to associate an object LX to each set, with a natural multiplication such that LXLY = LX·Y? |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Aryabhatta on Jan 12th, 2008, 2:47pm Do you mean [hide] Dirichlet Convolution [/hide]? In that case I still don't see the significance of the letter 'Z'. |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 12th, 2008, 4:15pm Indeed I do. Big hint: [hide]generating function[/hide] |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Aryabhatta on Jan 14th, 2008, 11:21am Oh, so are you talking in reference to Mn({1}), in which case [hide] Bell series [/hide] seems to make a lot of sense ;) |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jan 15th, 2008, 4:06am I hadn't actually heard of those, but they can be used just as well. What I was actually going for uses a word from each of your last two suggestions... |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Aryabhatta on Jan 18th, 2008, 12:23pm Err.. a web search for Convolution Bell revealed nothing relevant :P Currently busy with work, will have to think about this later. Perhaps Z stands for Zeta. Only have to figure out why. |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Feb 21st, 2008, 7:57am on 01/18/08 at 12:23:52, Aryabhatta wrote:
Are you joking, or do you really not know which element of {Dirichlet, Bell} x {convolution, series} I mean? As for part (BT), let An be the set of allowable exponents for the set Sn; i.e., n = http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/YaBBImages/symbols/prod.gifpa_p http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/YaBBImages/symbols/in.gif Sn iff ap http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/YaBBImages/symbols/in.gif An for all p. So A0 = {0}, A1 = {0,1}. Find the first few An. What's the pattern? |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Aryabhatta on Jun 4th, 2008, 10:45am Strange! I missed your reply Eigenray... Yes, I was joking. I believe you have been referring to Z(f,s) = \sum f(n) n-s so that Z(f,s) Z(g,s) = Z(h,s) where the dirichlet convolution of f and g is h. For f = \mu we get the reciprocal of the Riemann zeta function in the half plane Re s > 1. |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jun 4th, 2008, 11:59am Correct. So if we have a set X, which corresponds to a certain Dirichlet series LX(s) (to avoid using Z again), then what are LZ(X) and LM(X)? |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Aryabhatta on Jun 8th, 2008, 10:45am One multiplies with Zeta and other divides by it, but I have the feeling that you have gone even further and obtained some nice result... (we are only interested in the evenness/oddness and not the actual values of the coefficients) |
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Title: Re: Circular jail cell revisited Post by Eigenray on Jun 8th, 2008, 11:22pm So you understand the names now, right? The interesting thing now is to describe the sets Sn and Tn, and the partial order on them. |
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