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(Message started by: pcbouhid on Nov 29th, 2005, 8:30am)

Title: THE COEFFICIENT OF x^2
Post by pcbouhid on Nov 29th, 2005, 8:30am
Find the coefficient of x^2 upon the expansion and collecting of the terms in this expression:

((((x - 2)^2 - 2)^2 - 2)^2 - .....- 2)^2

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Title: Re: THE COEFFICIENT OF x^2
Post by Joe Fendel on Nov 29th, 2005, 9:22am
If I had to guess, I'd say [hide](4(2n-1) - 4(n-1)) / 3[/hide].

Title: Re: THE COEFFICIENT OF x^2
Post by Eigenray on Nov 29th, 2005, 10:13am
Well, no reason not to prove your guess:
[hideb]If
a'+b'x+c'x2 = (a-2+bx+cx2)2 (mod x3),
then
a'=(a-2)2, b'=2(a-2)b, and c'=2(a-2)c+b2.
If we start with (a0,b0,c0) = (0,1,0), then (a1,b1,c1) = (4, -4, 1).
Since a1=4, we have an=4 for all n>0, so we can rewrite the recurrence as
b' = 4b,  c' = 4c + b2.
Then clearly bn = -4n, so this becomes
cn+1 = 4cn + 42n,
and c1=1.  This recurrence has the unique solution
cn =  (42n-1-4n-1)/3.[/hideb]

Title: Re: THE COEFFICIENT OF x^2
Post by pcbouhid on Nov 30th, 2005, 10:31am
It seems a good team work with two members: the first make a guess, and the second, prove the guess. Next time, in separate rooms!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D

Title: Re: THE COEFFICIENT OF x^2
Post by srn347 on Sep 17th, 2007, 6:03pm
What if you replaced n with x?

Title: Re: THE COEFFICIENT OF x^2
Post by ThudanBlunder on Sep 17th, 2007, 7:14pm

on 09/17/07 at 18:03:02, srn347 wrote:
What if you replaced n with x?

What type of number is n?
What type of number is x?



Title: Re: THE COEFFICIENT OF x^2
Post by srn347 on Sep 17th, 2007, 8:49pm
Ask pcbouhid.



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