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Title: Sweeping a cube Post by JocK on Dec 7th, 2004, 10:44am What is the largest volume that fits inside a unit cube in any orientation, and that can be moved around inside this cube so as to sweep it completely? |
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Title: Re: Sweeping a cube Post by Barukh on Dec 9th, 2004, 1:55am Oh, that seems tough... >:( To avoid mis-interpretations: "can freely rotate" means "no 2 points of the body are more than a unit length apart"? |
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Title: Re: Sweeping a cube Post by Barukh on Dec 9th, 2004, 5:54am Here is one idea (assuming my interpretation of “freely rotate” is correct). Take any figure F that satisfies Sweeping a Square (http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=riddles_hard;action=display;num=1102254108). Let the area of F be S. If we dilate F by a factor of k < 1, we get a similar figure F’. In it, every 2 points are at the distance no more than k. The area of F’ is Sk2. Now, on F’ as a base, build a right generalized cylinder (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Cylinder.html) of height h. If h2 + k2 [le] 1, no two points in this solid will be more than a unit apart. So, we may achieve the volume of Sk2[sqrt](1-k2). This reaches the maximum 2S/[sqrt]27. Taking S = 0.6866… (the best known so far) gives 0.264… I will try to visualize this. |
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Title: Re: Sweeping a cube Post by JocK on Dec 9th, 2004, 12:53pm on 12/09/04 at 01:55:38, Barukh wrote:
C'mon Barukh, a piece of cake for u! (you have solved the 2D case already and I won't bother you with the 4D case... ;) ) on 12/09/04 at 01:55:38, Barukh wrote:
Correct. I will change the wording in the riddle from 'freely rotate inside a unit cube' into: 'can be placed inside a unit cube in any orientation'. |
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Title: Re: Sweeping a cube Post by JocK on Dec 9th, 2004, 1:55pm on 12/09/04 at 05:54:12, Barukh wrote:
That's a start! :) Would you have applied the same methodology to find a solution to 2D problem Sweeping a Square (http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=riddles_hard;action=display;num=1102254108) given that the 1D problem is trivially solved by a line segment of unit lenth, you would have ended up with a square with unit diagonal and area 1/2. Not bad for a first guess, but not optimal... ;) |
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Title: Re: Sweeping a cube Post by Barukh on Dec 10th, 2004, 11:04am on 12/09/04 at 12:53:22, JocK wrote:
You give me too much credit - after all, it was SWF's idea. Quote:
Do you promise? ;) |
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Title: Re: Sweeping a cube Post by JocK on Dec 11th, 2004, 7:33pm on 12/10/04 at 11:04:10, Barukh wrote:
Considering various spatial dimensions N = 1, 2, 3, ... might actually help. Reasonable target values for the volume fraction in various dimensions can be defined as follows: A (hyper)cube with unit diagonal (volume N-N/2) consitutes a lower bound, and a (hyper)sphere with unit diameter (volume ([sqrt][pi] / 2)N/Gamma(1 + N/2) ) an upper bound to the solution of the (hyper)cube sweeping problem. N low.bound upp.bound 1 - - - 1.000 - - - 1.000 2 - - - 0.500 - - - 0.785 3 - - - 0.192 - - - 0.524 4 - - - 0.063 - - - 0.308 5 - - - 0.018 - - - 0.164 The midpoint between this upper bound and this lower bound represents a volume fraction that you should be able to reach or exceed... (at least for all dimensions up to N=5). Good luck! |
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Title: Re: Sweeping a cube Post by Barukh on Dec 12th, 2004, 1:02am on 12/11/04 at 19:33:11, JocK wrote:
Hmm, that's interesting... For n=2, we get the SWF's proposed solution. But I don't see why this should be necessarily true for higher dimensions? Probably, my imagination deceives me... :( |
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Title: Re: Sweeping a cube Post by Barukh on Feb 19th, 2005, 5:21am Is this thread dead? I am still not able to find something better... More than 2 months have passed since the last post. Maybe, a hint is relevant? |
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Title: Re: Sweeping a cube Post by JocK on Feb 19th, 2005, 1:35pm on 02/19/05 at 05:21:01, Barukh wrote:
OK -- at the danger of giving too much away -- here is a 2nd hint (the first hint being that one should strive for volumes of at least 0.358..): Think about an octant of a sphere with unit radius. Such a body fits snuggly in the corner of cube, and has a volume as large as 0.524. However, some points on this octant are further than a unit distance apart. So you have to cut off some part(s)... |
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