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(Message started by: Noke Lieu on Jul 7th, 2008, 12:18am)
Title: another little flash game I've found
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 7th, 2008, 12:18am
http://scarybuggames.com/2008/05/chronotron/

also at addictinggames

nice.
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by towr on Jul 7th, 2008, 3:08am
Fun game.
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by SMQ on Jul 7th, 2008, 5:20am
And another: http://www.bubblebox.com/play/puzzle/975.htm

--SMQ
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by towr on Jul 7th, 2008, 8:23am

on 07/07/08 at 05:20:26, SMQ wrote:
And another: http://www.bubblebox.com/play/puzzle/975.htm
I have a suspicion I might not be solving them in the way I ought to; and I'm not just saying that because it took me 199 shapes for one level :P
I seem to be building grabbers in every level now.
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by SMQ on Jul 7th, 2008, 8:49am
My farorite trick: [hide]build a catapult by attaching an arm directly to the ball, attaching a large weight at the other end, then erasing the arm in mid-swing to throw the ball somewhere[/hide].

--SMQ
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Eigenray on Jul 7th, 2008, 12:31pm
I can't get the hang of the hinges.  I have a trackpoint so I haven't actually used a mouse in months.  I think I'm a little too "slow on the draw".

So, is this considered cheating?  Because you can solve a lot of them by doing that.  [edit]After watching the walkthrough, I think I completely missed the point of the game.  My highest level was only 197 though.  :P[/edit]

[link=http://www.parapluesch.de/]Here[/link]'s a game where you psychoanalyze stuffed animals.  (It's a few years old but I only found it recently.)
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by SMQ on Jul 7th, 2008, 1:18pm

on 07/07/08 at 12:31:54, Eigenray wrote:
So, is this considered cheating

I think so, yes. When you let go of the button it completes the shape (and any concavities) with (a) straight line(s), and if that(those) line(s) passes through any other shape they're instantly moved out of the way in a non-physical manner.  It seems to me that exploiting that behavior is "cheating" as it can be used to move the ball through walls, etc.  That's how all the 28's in the high score list were obtained...  my best "legitimate" total score is [hide]42[/hide].

--SMQ
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by towr on Jul 7th, 2008, 2:22pm
Y'know, that game would have been a lot easier if I had figured out you can actually attach things to the red ball (or square).
I mean, for one thing I wouldn't have been building cages around it to get a hold of it.
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by SMQ on Jul 8th, 2008, 4:32pm
My best solution so far: (video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIBhSGRP9ak)

--SMQ
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Roy on Jul 9th, 2008, 7:46am
Those who enjoy magic pen should also look at Crayon Physics if you haven't already, at www.kloonigames.com/blog, having mastered it made magic pen quite easy, although the different concepts took a bit to get used to, however they will be appearing in Crayon Physics deluxe, so it's fine there.

Chronotron was nice too, one of the few browser games left that actually made me think, and i still haven't finished the harder ones, so it rates high.

EDIT: Sorry, didn't play the one on bubble box so i didn't know it had the link to crayon physics. The version i played was a lot harder, since you weren't allowed to put hinges or pins in levels that didn't have a shape with an x in it.
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by SMQ on Jul 9th, 2008, 9:13am
Hmm, where did you find that version, Roy?  (I'd be interested in trying that variation).

Also, not to "toot my own horn" too loudly, as it were, but after watching some of the other non-cheating solutions on youtube: my new best (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFYtovtHzFM) (in [hide]37[/hide] total shapes).

--SMQ
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Roy on Jul 11th, 2008, 2:58pm
On miniclip, however i think they may have updated it to allow pins and hinges on all levels aswell. Another thing was that the first version on there had only 25 levels. That's why i like crayon physics better, not only can you make your own levels, you have to beat them withoiut the use of anything like those, at least until Deluxe comes out.

Also, If you go to miniclip, you should check out Bloxorz, which, towards the later levels, also racks the brain.
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Noke Lieu on Jul 13th, 2008, 8:55pm

on 07/09/08 at 09:13:57, SMQ wrote:
Hmm, where did you find that version, Roy?  (I'd be interested in trying that variation).

Also, not to "toot my own horn" too loudly, as it were, but after watching some of the other non-cheating solutions on youtube: my new best (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFYtovtHzFM) (in [hide]37[/hide] total shapes).

--SMQ



Had a shufti at that, SMQ. Very nice solutions to some of them. Can't help but feel deleting the curtains was cheating though... (more jealous that I didn't t hink of it!  ;))
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by SMQ on Jul 15th, 2008, 6:18am

on 07/13/08 at 20:55:14, Noke Lieu wrote:
Can't help but feel deleting the curtains was cheating though...

Yeah. I'm not quite comfortable with that either, but it seems to be the only way to do it in one, and at least it's not an unphysicslike effect like most of the "cheats".  I'm still trying to find a way to get enough momentum from a fall to force my way through the chains in one, though. ;)

--SMQ
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Noke Lieu on Aug 21st, 2008, 4:59pm
oooooh, have ?wasted? a few hours on this recently...
http://fantasticcontraption.com/
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Roy on Aug 21st, 2008, 11:08pm
Not bad, a nice twist to the basic crayon physics format
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by hemmrao on Oct 20th, 2008, 10:40pm
Really good flash games the above mentioned, but if you know helicopter game (http://www.myhelicoptergame.com) is also a addictive flash game hope I am not wrong.
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by iono on Oct 21st, 2008, 5:28pm
I played the all the games before, from one site (http://www.mofunzone.com). Magic pen is awesome! Especially the freestyle.
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by rmsgrey on Oct 21st, 2008, 5:36pm

on 08/21/08 at 16:59:09, Noke Lieu wrote:
oooooh, have ?wasted? a few hours on this recently...
http://fantasticcontraption.com/

I was just thinking of posting that one...

There are some rather ingenious devices hidden among the solutions - the caterpillar tracks and the legged-walker both impressed me greatly. The flying contraptions less so...

The "green" solutions (solutions without either of the perpetual motion components) are also impressive, though attracting less of a "wow" from me...
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Noke Lieu on Oct 21st, 2008, 5:54pm
I agree- some beautiful things there. Very low signal to noise ratio though.
I also find the rating system a tad... errratic.
Was working an a wonderful solution for "back and forth" last night, but my chain kept snapping... pesky.
What do you think of sharing designs through here?
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by SMQ on Oct 29th, 2008, 7:13am

on 10/21/08 at 17:54:47, Noke Lieu wrote:
What do you think of sharing designs through here?

Why not? ;)  I've been working on Magic Pen-style minimalist solutions:

1. Rolling Away: 0 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3420009) (trivial)
2. Reach Up: 1 element (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3419981)
3. Mind The Gap: 1 element (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3421222)
4. Junkyard: 3 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3422594)
5. The Wall: 2 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3423798) (this took a lot of tuning)
6. On a Roll: 1 element (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3424337)
7. Full-up: 3 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3425684)
8. Higher: 2 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3425979)
9. Around the Bend: 0 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3619950)
10. Up The Hump: 3 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3620170)
11. Mission to Mars: 1 element (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3620464) (whee!)
12. Up The Stairs: 3 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3620942) (wacky)
13. Big Ball: 5 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3647730)
14. Four Balls: 6 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3635044) (sweet!)
15. Down Under: 4 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3632019) (awkward)
16. Awash: 8 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3630161) (I think this is improvable)
17. Handling: 4 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3622417)
18. Tube: 3 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3426406) (stole the idea)
19. Back and Forth: 5 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3624946)
20. Unpossible: 18 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3650732) (not happy with this one)
21. U-turn: 6 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3427558) (another stolen idea)
--------------------
TOTAL: 79 elements

--SMQ
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Noke Lieu on Oct 31st, 2008, 8:22pm
the wall... wow. elegant.
I did this (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3766119). Trying to make unusual, interesting solutions.

full up (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=844945) from a while back. I remember having a better version (less suspense) but couldn't be bothered with the tweaking.

My tube less elegant (ttp://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=647195) more robust.
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by FiBsTeR on Oct 31st, 2008, 8:50pm
Hehe, I've never played these games, but the solutions look hilarious!  :D
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Noke Lieu on Nov 1st, 2008, 2:48pm
smq- delved further into someof ypur solns-

I really like unpossible. It's a more complicated version of how I over-engineered 'higher'.
"On a roll" is fantastic.

U turn (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=1023918)
makes me feel like a fat handed mnkey though, comparing my efforts to yours...

FiBsTeR.. have a crack at them. It's fun to do...
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Grimbal on Nov 1st, 2008, 4:40pm
SMQ, your solutions are jewels of simplicity and ingenuity.  They are hard to beat.

And yet...
7 Full up
   almost 2 (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3720906) - A nice idea, though.
   2 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3720508)
15 Down Under
   3 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3793995)

Other design that I like (of course, as they are mine!).
7 Full up
   Do it the difficult way (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3509508)
11 Mission to Mars
   Space jump (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3544293) - The whole device will go to the red ... uh ... green planet.
17 Handling
   Seven (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3559536) - Unpowered.  My favorite, I think.
19 Back and Forth
   Stolen parts (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3796422) - A variation, 5 elements, assembled from 2 stolen parts...
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by SMQ on Nov 1st, 2008, 5:36pm

on 11/01/08 at 16:40:10, Grimbal wrote:
SMQ, your solutions are jewels of simplicity and ingenuity.  They are hard to beat.

Thank you. :)

And yet, according to the official forum thread (http://fantasticcontraption.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28#p128), I've been beaten on #s 4, 7 (you found the winner, good work!), and all of 13 through 21.

Some of those are truly amazing!  Unpossible in 6 (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=192073) is inspired, but I think U-turn in 4 (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=793933) is my favorite, because my first reaction was "that can't possibly work!"

--SMQ
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Noke Lieu on Nov 1st, 2008, 10:11pm

on 11/01/08 at 16:40:10, Grimbal wrote:
17 Handling
   Seven (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3559536) - Unpowered.  My favorite, I think.

Oh my. That... wow... uhhhn. Wow.
And the space jump... BABY!

Taking things a little more seriously, I offer a simple on a roll with 2 (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3806893) and with 3 (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3806194) (thoughmore pieces, possibly as elegant?

An for a different tack... junk in tray (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3807124)- love how it balances
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Grimbal on Nov 2nd, 2008, 2:02pm
At last!  I did the Umpossible.
   Possible, 9 elements (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3824060)
Far from the optimal 6, but still neat.

Another funny idea:
Up the Hump
   Square Wheel (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3809077)

And I improved my Handling
   Seven reloaded (http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=3864200)
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Noke Lieu on Nov 12th, 2008, 12:34am
they're pretty sweet.
square wheel was cute.
i prefered your original handling- more drama?
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by iono on Nov 17th, 2008, 6:14pm
here's another one (http://www.mofunzone.com/online_games/super_stacker.shtml)
Title: Re: another little flash game I've found
Post by Random Lack of Squiggily Lines on Dec 7th, 2008, 10:11am
I got a Good one too

www.bubblebox.com/play/puzzle/1206.htm


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