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(Message started by: mikedagr8 on Aug 31st, 2007, 4:00am)
Title: Bush Bagging
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 31st, 2007, 4:00am
I just want to see how much people really dislike George W. Bush.

Give me your thoughts on him.
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ima1trkpny on Aug 31st, 2007, 8:30am
Just go take a look at the "Presidents" thread in Truth... you pretty much have it all right there, both for and against.
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ThudanBlunder on Aug 31st, 2007, 8:49am

on 08/31/07 at 04:00:36, mikedagr8 wrote:
Give me your thoughts on him.
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ThudanBlunder on Aug 31st, 2007, 8:52am
Not that I am politically biased, you understand.
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by mikedagr8 on Aug 31st, 2007, 4:26pm
HAHAHAHA, I have seen those before, yet they still entertain me.  Thanks for the helpful other thread. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by Barukh on Sep 1st, 2007, 7:14am

on 08/31/07 at 08:52:54, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Not that I am politically biased, you understand.

But you are biased, aren't you?  ;)

I mean, for a different country?
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ThudanBlunder on Sep 1st, 2007, 7:34am

on 09/01/07 at 07:14:29, Barukh wrote:
But you are biased, aren't you?  ;)

I mean, for a different country?

Actually, I have no time for nationalism, the main cause of wars.
And the two most nationalistic, flag-waving countries on the planet are USA and China.
This does not bode well for the future.
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by Barukh on Sep 1st, 2007, 11:19am

on 09/01/07 at 07:34:40, ThudanBlunder wrote:
And the two most nationalistic, flag-waving countries on the planet are USA and China.

Really? Where would you put Russia in this context?
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by Sameer on Sep 1st, 2007, 11:32am

on 09/01/07 at 11:19:48, Barukh wrote:
Really? Where would you put Russia in this context?


At the bottom of arctic ocean?  ;)

http://www.oxfordenergy.org/pdfs/comment_0807-3.pdf
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ThudanBlunder on Sep 1st, 2007, 11:42am

on 09/01/07 at 11:19:48, Barukh wrote:
Really? Where would you put Russia in this context?

I have not lived in Russia, but I would say that the average Russian is more concerned with obtaining a decent standard of living than with their country's global standing.

And perhaps it is more accurate to say that Americans are the most patriotic, while the Chinese are the most nationalistic.

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does.

- U.S. journalist Sydney J. Harris
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by JiNbOtAk on Sep 2nd, 2007, 6:20pm
Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious. - Captain John Patrick Mason ( actually it was Oscar Wilde, but I heard it first from the good captain ).

As with any quote, they are not necessarily true, however, if this fact that Americans are the most patriotic, it would explain a lot of things, the Vietnam War, invasion of Iraq.

So, Americans, how does it feel, to be a nation which is always right, always know what is best for the rest of the world, irregardless of how the others think ?  :P
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by Eigenray on Sep 2nd, 2007, 7:56pm

on 09/02/07 at 18:20:06, JiNbOtAk wrote:
So, Americans, how does it feel, to be a nation which is always right, always know what is best for the rest of the world, irregardless of how the others think ?  :P

Hey, don't blame me.  I voted for Kodos  :-/
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by Barukh on Sep 2nd, 2007, 11:23pm

on 09/01/07 at 11:42:24, ThudanBlunder wrote:
I have not lived in Russia, but I would say that the average Russian is more concerned with obtaining a decent standard of living than with their country's global standing.

I am not so sure. Besides, I think the same applies to US citizens (with word “decent” changed to something less decent). So, why do you think the Americans are more patriotic (whatever) than Russians?

Oh, and how about Englishmen?


on 09/02/07 at 18:20:06, JiNbOtAk wrote:
So, Americans, how does it feel, to be a nation which is always right, always know what is best for the rest of the world, irregardless of how the others think ?  :P

IMHO that’s an attribute of any Empire (at least for 2000 years).
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by JiNbOtAk on Sep 2nd, 2007, 11:37pm

on 09/02/07 at 23:23:41, Barukh wrote:
IMHO that’s an attribute of any Empire (at least for 2000 years).


Of course, it's just that the Empire now is America, or so the Americans seems to think.  :P
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by Barukh on Sep 3rd, 2007, 12:43am

on 09/02/07 at 23:37:37, JiNbOtAk wrote:
Of course, it's just that the Empire now is America, or so the Americans seems to think.  :P

You may agree or not, but America is nowadays an Empire.

Not that I'm their advocate.
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by mikedagr8 on Sep 3rd, 2007, 1:18am

Quote:
You may agree or not, but America is nowadays an Empire.


I agree, any country that influences other countries in the way they do, can only be considered en empire.

Hehe, here's a joke I picked up.

Tony Blair and John Howard are in seperate cars, driving out of George Bush's arse.

Q:Why can't Tony Blair get out of George Bush's arse?
A: John Howard is in the way.
Q:Why can't John Howard get out of George Bush's arse?
A: He can't see over the steering wheel.
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ThudanBlunder on Sep 3rd, 2007, 2:39am

on 09/03/07 at 01:18:49, mikedagr8 wrote:
A: He can't see over the steering wheel.

Shouldn't you wait till you are a bit taller to tell that joke?
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by mikedagr8 on Sep 3rd, 2007, 2:43am

on 09/03/07 at 02:39:46, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Shouldn't you wait till you are a bit taller to tell that joke?


It's another 30 days until my birthday, so I don't know why your not referencing to my age (for once). I'm 185cm so for me to see out over a Toyota 1991 Corolla Sedan (that's the car I bought from my dad), is a little silly. I have sat in the driver's seat to reach a few things and turn on the engine once or twice (shhh, that's illegal)  ::).
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ThudanBlunder on Sep 3rd, 2007, 2:55am

on 09/03/07 at 02:43:19, mikedagr8 wrote:
I'm 185cm....

Wow, that is tall for your age. I remember the average age for UK men used to be only 5'8", 1.73m.
However, some sheilas believe it is better to have loved a short man than never to have loved a tall.
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by mikedagr8 on Sep 3rd, 2007, 2:57am

on 09/03/07 at 02:55:23, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Well, that is tall for your age. I remember the average age for men used to be only 5'8", 1.73cm.
However, some sheilas believe it is better to have loved a short man, than never to have loved a tall.


I like that quote.  :D, Just think, I was in the front row of all my photos for school until 4 years ago, now I'm back row centre (or 1/2 people away from it).
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by mikedagr8 on Sep 3rd, 2007, 3:45am

on 09/03/07 at 02:55:23, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Wow, that is tall for your age. I remember the average age for men used to be only 5'8", 1.73m.
However, some sheilas believe it is better to have loved a short man than never to have loved a tall.


Just want to confirm you meant height, right  ::)
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ThudanBlunder on Sep 3rd, 2007, 3:53am

on 09/03/07 at 03:45:51, mikedagr8 wrote:
Just want to confirm you meant height, right  ::)

Yeah I did; there's no need to get paranoid.  :P  
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by mikedagr8 on Sep 3rd, 2007, 3:57am

on 09/03/07 at 03:53:17, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Yeah I did; there's no need to get paranoid.  :P  



Quote:
I remember the average for men used to be only 5'8", 1.73m.


Paranoid? I'm not ever going to get paranoid about being above average  ;D :P
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ThudanBlunder on Sep 3rd, 2007, 3:58pm
Anyway, thank God we have Prescient Bush, who actually saw the first plane hit (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dbc_1188804768) WTC before the rest of us!
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ima1trkpny on Sep 3rd, 2007, 3:59pm

on 09/03/07 at 02:55:23, ThudanBlunder wrote:
However, some sheilas believe it is better to have loved a short man than never to have loved a tall.


Haha, but no... just no... needs to be tall enough that you can look deep into his eyes...  ;)
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by towr on Sep 3rd, 2007, 11:34pm

on 09/03/07 at 15:59:29, ima1trkpny wrote:
Haha, but no... just no... needs to be tall enough that you can look deep into his eyes...  ;)
Can't be too tall then either, right?
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ima1trkpny on Sep 4th, 2007, 6:33pm

on 09/03/07 at 23:34:27, towr wrote:
Can't be too tall then either, right?

Well I have yet to meet anybody who really fits that discription as I am just shy of 5'10".  At least if they're super tall I can get away with wearing heels without intimidating them.  ;D
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ima1trkpny on Sep 4th, 2007, 7:04pm

on 09/03/07 at 15:58:16, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Anyway, thank God we have Prescient Bush, who actually saw the first plane hit (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dbc_1188804768) WTC before the rest of us!

I'll have to do a little research to double check about when that tape was released... :-/ because I specifically remember hearing about it first on the radio driving on my way to a class I was taking for fun and then watching the footage and replay on TV, because the teacher decided to turn on the news instead of proceeding with the lesson. Maybe my mind is going with age ::) but I generally remember time sequences with frightening accuracy...
Title: Re: Bush Bagging
Post by ThudanBlunder on Sep 4th, 2007, 7:34pm

on 09/04/07 at 19:04:10, ima1trkpny wrote:
I'll have to do a little research to double check about when that tape was released... :-/ .

The footage they mean will be that from an amateur documentary that was being made about the Fire Department, and which just happened to catch the first plane as it first flew noisily overhead and then crashed into the North Tower, the first to be hit but the second to fall, probably because it was hit higher up. I doubt if the first thing they did was rush the stuff over to CNN for Bush to watch while waiting for his photo-opportunity with the schoolkids.


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