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(Message started by: Grimbal on Apr 20^th, 2007, 6:49am)

Title: Harry Potter
Post by Grimbal on Apr 20^th, 2007, 6:49am

I didn't want to pollute the other thread.

on 04/20/07 at 04:23:28, SMQ wrote:

July 21, and if you somehow get it before then and post any spoilers here, I will personally track you down, Malaysia or not, and slap you silly! >:( ;D

--SMQ

But you can guess the end. (warning: spoiler)
[hide]Dumbledore will be back as Dumbledore the White.
He will explain that Voldemort never tried to kill Harry, he just implanted a horcrux into him. The famous scar. That is why to kill Voldemort, Harry must die.
[/hide]

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by rmsgrey on Apr 20^th, 2007, 8:20am

So Peter Jackson's writing book 7?

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Grimbal on Apr 20^th, 2007, 9:10am

Or maybe he will come in spirit form, advising in a hollow voice: "May the Curse be with you!"

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Icarus on Apr 20^th, 2007, 3:20pm

Actually, Rowling has denied that Harry dies in the last book.

I definitely agree about Dumbledore coming back, though. Rowling used this same trick in the first book.

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by JiNbOtAk on Apr 20^th, 2007, 8:12pm

If I'm not mistaken, Rowling had also denied Dumbledore coming back. Dumbledore is definitely dead, Harry's parents are definitely dead, while Sirius is..controversial.

Who thinks Harry will marry Ginny at the end of book 7 ??

p/s : I thought all the hocruxes are accounted for ?

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by tiber13 on Apr 21^st, 2007, 8:33am

Sirius died, and from book 2 i knew voldemort didnt try to kill harry, just to use him as a spy to learn secrets of the ministary and stuff so he could rule the world! mwhahaha!

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Grimbal on Apr 22^nd, 2007, 12:01pm

When reading the first books, I thought that obviously Harry Potter would end up as the new Head of Hogwarts, replacing Dumbledore.

Well, the position is vacant. :)

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by tiber13 on Apr 22^nd, 2007, 1:07pm

the Largest question is: Who is ( or was going to be) the 7th defense against the dark arts teacher?

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Icarus on Apr 22^nd, 2007, 7:00pm

on 04/22/07 at 12:01:02, Grimbal wrote:

When reading the first books, I thought that obviously Harry Potter would end up as the new Head of Hogwarts, replacing Dumbledore.

Well, the position is vacant. :)

I think she's been grooming Hermione for that position.

on 04/22/07 at 13:07:35, tiber13 wrote:

the Largest question is: Who is ( or was going to be) the 7th defense against the dark arts teacher?

Maybe she'll get Harry back to Hogwart's by having him fill the role... :P

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by JiNbOtAk on Apr 22^nd, 2007, 7:58pm

on 04/22/07 at 13:07:35, tiber13 wrote:

the Largest question is: Who is ( or was going to be) the 7th defense against the dark arts teacher?

Are you even sure Hogwarts would be open in Book 7 ?
If yes, who's the next Headmaster / Headmistress ?
If it's Minerva McGonagall, who'll be the next Transfiguration teacher ?

Maybe Hermione would end up as the Transfiguration teacher, while Neville Longbottom would take on Defense Against the Dark Arts.. :P

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Roy on Jun 10^th, 2007, 9:35pm

1. The postition is not vacant, McGonagall is the headmisstress.

2.Dumbledore the white?!

3. Harry already looked for every magical loophole that could bring Dumbledore back as a spirit/ghost thing, so, unless Rowling has a suprise for us....

4. The DADA teacher depends on whether or not Hogwarts is staying open

5. All but one horcrux have been accounted for:
i) The diary (destroyed)
ii) Marvolo's ring (destroyed)
iii) Nagini
iv) Hufflepuff's cup
v) The locket
vi) Voldemort

The seventh is unspecified, apparently something of either Gryffindor's or Ravenclaw's

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by rmsgrey on Jun 11^th, 2007, 6:55am

on 06/10/07 at 21:35:16, Roy wrote:

5. All but one horcrux have been accounted for:
i) The diary (destroyed)
ii) Marvolo's ring (destroyed)
iii) Nagini
iv) Hufflepuff's cup
v) The locket
vi) Voldemort

The seventh is unspecified, apparently something of either Gryffindor's or Ravenclaw's

Wait. So Voldemort is one of his own Horcruxes? (or whatever the plural is)

Wiki's list is:

1) Riddle's Diary (confirmed, destroyed)
2) Marvolo's Ring (confirmed, destroyed)
3) Slytherin's (speculative) Locket (confirmed, taken by RAB, possibly destroyed)
4) HufflePuff's Cup (speculative)
5) Nagini (speculative, but highly plausible)
6) Unknown relic of Gryffindor or Ravenclaw (speculative)
7) Unknown

As for DADA, if it's Harry, he'll be the first repeat DADA teacher since Voldemort was refused the post...

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Three Hands on Jun 11^th, 2007, 8:10am

Couple of things. Firstly, if I recall the details correctly, Minerva McGonagall is currently Acting Headmistress, rather than officially taking over the post. A meeting of the school governers would be required (I believe) to appoint a new headteacher.

Secondly, Harry has not been an officially appointed DADA teacher, he just happened to be the instructor in a (completely illegal) student club focussing on further study of Defence Against the Dark Arts. So, officially at least, he would not be the first repeat teacher.

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by JiNbOtAk on Jun 11^th, 2007, 9:48pm

on 06/11/07 at 06:55:12, rmsgrey wrote:

If there are no part of Voldermort's mangled soul in his new body, how could he exist ??

I still like Neville as the next DADA teacher.. :P

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Aurora on Jun 13^th, 2007, 8:50am

I quite like the idea of Voldemort (in some form or other) being the new DADA teacher. The whereabouts of the remaining hocruxes could somehow fit in...

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Roy on Jun 22^nd, 2007, 6:13pm

JiNbOtAk, yes, there are six horcruxes, the seventh part of Voldemort's soul is inside him.

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Roy on Jun 22^nd, 2007, 6:21pm

on 04/20/07 at 08:20:25, rmsgrey wrote:

So Peter Jackson's writing book 7?

No, if you had one of the books, you would have read in the back that Rowling already outlined every book over 5 years; she's finished writing the 7th.

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by rmsgrey on Jun 23^rd, 2007, 6:47am

on 06/22/07 at 18:21:17, Roy wrote:

No, if you had one of the books, you would have read in the back that Rowling already outlined every book over 5 years; she's finished writing the 7th.

I know that - I was just responding to the previous poster's "plot summary"

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by JiNbOtAk on Jun 24^th, 2007, 6:52pm

Anyone know this Gabriel (http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2007/Jun/0380.html) guy ? Maybe someone could give credence to his theory ?

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Three Hands on Jun 25^th, 2007, 6:33am

I'd be more impressed if his spelling/grammar was better, and he could provide evidence beyond hearsay and vague speculation. If he's actually hacked an electronic copy of the book, then it would be far more convincing if he showed a chapter or two of evidence.

Don't know who he is, and don't know whether he is correct or not, but I believe the actual book will be a lot more worthwhile reading than his summary...

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Grimbal on Jul 17^th, 2007, 6:29am

on 04/20/07 at 15:20:33, Icarus wrote:

Actually, Rowling has denied that Harry dies in the last book.

No. She denied that he dies in book 7. ;)

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Sir Col on Jul 17^th, 2007, 10:05am

Here's an interesting spoiler theory presented in an amusing manner...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19436954/

The link above takes you to the transcript of Keith Olbermann's report, but there's a link on the right side of the page: "Harry Potter and the mystery of the leaked plot" to play the video of the report.

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by JiNbOtAk on Jul 17^th, 2007, 6:04pm

Heh, 3 days to the launch of the new book, I think I can hold on that long and not give in to the temptation of looking up spoilers. :P

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jul 18^th, 2007, 7:00am

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1644382,00.html

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by towr on Jul 18^th, 2007, 7:18am

Spoiler:
[hide]In the end, Harry Potter, by way of deus ex machina, saves the day! And Gryffindor is awarded tons of points for no particularly good reason whatsoever.[/hide]

[hide]At least it's very likely that'll be what spoils it.[/hide]

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by ThudanBlunder on Jul 19^th, 2007, 8:24am

http://books.guardian.co.uk/harrypotter/story/0,,2130181,00.html

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by towr on Jul 19^th, 2007, 10:10am

If JK Rowling had really wanted to make sure no one would be able to read the book until the official publication date, she should have had the book printed in encrypted form, and only given out the key to the encryption after official publication.

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Grimbal on Jul 20^th, 2007, 1:44am

More practically, she sells the book without revealing in which language it is written.

On July 21, she reveals: it is ... English! :P

I'm sure that some reports of leaked books are just for sustaining the hype.

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Grimbal on Jul 20^th, 2007, 3:30pm

Pfff. Just finished reading it. [hide]Harry is not a horcrux[/hide]. And Gabriel is a fraud.

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Aurora on Jul 22^nd, 2007, 7:52am

And I am amazed to say that for the first time in his life [hide]Grimbal is wrong! (Okay, I admit that Gabriel is a fraud)[/hide]

BTW, it's hidden in case any of you havn't finished the book yet.

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Three Hands on Jul 22^nd, 2007, 11:28am

About the best comment I've heard thus far was "JK Rowling dies!"

Guess it would be one way of avoiding the cries for a sequel, though ::)

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by JiNbOtAk on Jul 22^nd, 2007, 5:05pm

Finished reading it, at last ! Before the critics swarm in, let me just say I Love It !! ( Btw, Gabriel is a fraud )

Major spoiler : [hide]Hehe, you seriously think I'm gonna give you one ? Read the book !![/hide]

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Grimbal on Jul 23^rd, 2007, 1:11am

on 07/22/07 at 07:52:54, Aurora wrote:

And I am amazed to say that for the first time in his life [hide]Grimbal is wrong! (Okay, I admit that Gabriel is a fraud)[/hide]

Erh... well, it is true, I didn't finish it 29 minutes after it was released. :-[

But thanks for "for the first time in his life".

Title: Re: Harry Potter
Post by Roy on Aug 15^th, 2007, 5:07pm

on 07/22/07 at 11:28:55, Three Hands wrote:

About the best comment I've heard thus far was "JK Rowling dies!"

And it probably would have happened if the ending was as stupid as "Harry wakes up and it was all a dream"