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(Message started by: Aravis on Aug 4^th, 2006, 9:33am)

Title: After Godel, Escher, Bach
Post by Aravis on Aug 4^th, 2006, 9:33am

So I've just completed my first reading of Godel, Escher, Bach, and am interested if anyone has any reading suggestions in the same vein.

I can suggest 'Flatterland' if you haven't read that yet.

Title: Re: After Godel, Escher, Bach
Post by towr on Aug 4^th, 2006, 1:48pm

I haven't read "Godel, Escher, Bach", so I'm not sure what vein it is in exactly.
But I can recommend pretty much anything by (or in collaboration with) Ian Stewart. Like "Does god play dice" (on chaos theory), "A magical maze" (puzzles and mathematics), "What does a martian look like" (on extraterrestial life), or "The science of discworld" (on science in general).
He also wrote "flatterland", but I haven't read that yet.

Title: Re: After Godel, Escher, Bach
Post by THUDandBLUNDER on Aug 4^th, 2006, 3:34pm

He also wrote Metamagical Themas: Questing for the Essence of Mind and Pattern
and
The Mind's I: Fantasies and Reflections on Self and Soul
and
I Am a Strange Loop.

There is also Godel's Theorem: An Incomplete Guide to Its Use and Abuse by Torkel Franzen, a regular poster on sci.math.

Title: Re: After Godel, Escher, Bach
Post by Mickey1 on Feb 10^th, 2010, 12:17pm

Would anyone happen to know if Goedel's proof implies that any limitation can be inferred about the true but unprovable, TbI, statements?

Since much of the proof is concerned with provability vs truth, could it perhaps be the case that the TbI statents could be all about provability, i.e. on the meta-level rather than for example about relations between numbers?