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(Message started by: TenaliRaman on Jan 11^th, 2005, 6:34am)

Title: Pigeon Anyone?
Post by TenaliRaman on Jan 11^th, 2005, 6:34am

I think i have found the perfect way to take Internet even to rural areas. It was already there and it was just to be found,

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.html

-- AI

Title: Re: Pigeon Anyone?
Post by towr on Jan 11^th, 2005, 8:44am

Quote:

The IP datagram is printed, on a small scroll of paper, in hexadecimal, with each octet separated by whitestuff and blackstuff. The scroll of paper is wrapped around one leg of the avian carrier. A band of duct tape is used to secure the datagram's edges.

Clearly they haven't thought this through, a digital data carrier medium works much better than paper for by-pigeon data-transfer.
It can easily beat dial-up modems on small to medium range. Especially considering the amount of data you can stow away on small flash memory cards these days. 256 MB in a rediculously small card is no exception. Take the speed of a pigeon to be, what, 10 m/s. Let's say we're looking at a transfer over 10 km. That's 1000 seconds, for 256 MB, is 25.6 kB/s (over 200 kilobits per second)
Responsa time isn't good though, but for batch data-transfer on medium range it's pretty good, certainly compared to dial-up.

Title: Re: Pigeon Anyone?
Post by Grimbal on Jan 12^th, 2005, 4:31am

Ahhh yes, but 14+ years ago, you would have been happy to have a single Mb of non-volatile memory on a chip. And if you had, you wouldn't like to risk loosing it.

This reminds me of a professor in computer science who asked what was the fastest way to send one GB of data overseas. At that time, the fastest medium what to send a tape archive via air mail.

Title: Re: Pigeon Anyone?
Post by towr on Jan 12^th, 2005, 5:16am

on 01/12/05 at 04:31:20, Grimbal wrote:

Ahhh yes, but 14+ years ago, you would have been happy to have a single Mb of non-volatile memory on a chip. And if you had, you wouldn't like to risk loosing it.

Even then there were better ways to send data by pigeon than writing it on a pice of paper. Even microfilm beats it by miles. And a small magnetic tape could have worked as well.

Title: Re: Pigeon Anyone?
Post by TenaliRaman on Jan 12^th, 2005, 7:49am

After i read this, i could only think of ways to snoop around in this network. Hackers can think of truckload of different ways.

Newsflash :
"Mating calls is being employed as a successful way to hack the message over CPIP"
;D

-- AI