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(Message started by: maryl on Sep 1^st, 2003, 9:20am)

Title: Individual Number
Post by maryl on Sep 1^st, 2003, 9:20am

Which of the following numbers has a characteristic that none of the others do?

38
54
626
1,009
2,376
3,129

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by wowbagger on Sep 1^st, 2003, 9:40am

In a way, every one of these numbers has a characteristic that the others don't have.

Is this a guess-what-the-one-who-asks-is-intending game? ;)

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by towr on Sep 1^st, 2003, 9:51am

::[hide]1009, it's the only prime[/hide]::

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by wowbagger on Sep 1^st, 2003, 10:00am

Plus it's the only one [hide]with two consecutive digits being the same[/hide].

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by maryl on Sep 1^st, 2003, 10:55am

There is another characteristic; we are not just thinking numbers but letters too.

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by maryl on Sep 4^th, 2003, 5:05pm

K, how can we make a word from one of these numbers?

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by Icarus on Sep 4^th, 2003, 6:22pm

Don't tell me you've gone dyslexic 1337?

BOOL?

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by maryl on Sep 5^th, 2003, 5:45pm

on 09/04/03 at 18:22:22, Icarus wrote:

Don't tell me you've gone dyslexic 1337?

BOOL?

Ha, ha.
What's 1337?

You guys got the right number, now make it into a word. ???

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by william wu on Sep 5^th, 2003, 6:40pm

on 09/05/03 at 17:45:21, maryl wrote:

What's 1337?

[gasp]
I have a whole site dedicated to 1337 ! :D
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/1337

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by visitor on Sep 5^th, 2003, 8:27pm

Bool? No. Lobo? Closer maybe. Am I barking up the right tree?

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by Icarus on Sep 5^th, 2003, 8:50pm

As one BBer to another, who apparently has been better able to avoid some of the more annoying aspects of younger generational cultures, "1337" - pronounced "elite" I've been told - is a computer writing fad that involves using numbers and other symbols in place of letters that they vaguely resemble, to spell words in a very "stylized" phonetic fashion. In the word "1337", the 1 stands for L, which is pronounce with its name "el", 3 stands for E and 7 for T, so 1337 is L - EET. Some more advanced 1337 is available in the comic to which William linked. (Needless to say, while a little 1337 is okay, a lot of it is very tiresome to wade through.)

(It's been awhile since I last read Megatokyo. I stopped reading some time back because the authors were posting only sporadically at best. I'm glad to see they are still at it though - their's was one of the better strips out there. I've seen the "Does anyone here speak L33T" strip before, but the Junpei ones are new to me. I may have to go look it again. Another good source for 1337 is "Funny Farm", one of whose characters is a robot who speaks nothing else.)
Then there is this exchange from "GPF" (http://www.gpf-comics.com/d/20011029.html) (intermixed with other plotlines) wherein Fooker, one of the main characters, does battle with a 1337 hacker.

As an added puzzle, who can translate it?

Oct 29, 2001|-|3110, F00|<3|2... 1'\/3 833|\| 3><p3k71|\|9 '/0u...

Oct 31, 2001|-|4\/1|\|9 4 117713 7|20u813 4kk3551|\|9 7|-|3 |\|37? |-|3|-|... '/0u |23411z3 1 k4|\| |<33p 7|-|15 up 1|\|d3F1|\|1731'/? \/\/17|-| '/0u|2 53|2\/3|2 d0\/\/|\|, '/0u|2 8u51|\|355 \/\/111 d13. 17'5 411 83k4u53 0F '/0u, F00|<3|2. '/0u'|23 0|\|3 0F 7|-|3 8357. 8u7 1'/\/\ 83773|2 7|-|4|\| 7|-|3 8357. 11k|< /\/\'/ |<3d5. 1 k4|\| |-|4k|< 8-7|2335 4|20u|\|d '/0u, /\/\4|\|. 1 4/\/\ '/0u|2 90d...

Nov 2, 2001|\|0, 8u7 '/0u |<|\|0\/\/ \/\/|-|0 1 4/\/\... 1 4/\/\ 4 1337 |-|4k|<3|2, F4|2 5up3|210|2 70 '/0u, F00|<3|2. '/0u'11 |\|3\/3|2 570p /\/\3. 1 4/\/\ 1|\|\/1|\|k1813!

(At this point, as narrative convention demands, Fooker defeats the hacker.)

For 1337, those are fairly easy.

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by towr on Sep 6^th, 2003, 5:35am

on 09/05/03 at 20:50:33, Icarus wrote:

"1337" - pronounced "elite" I've been told

I pronounce it as 'leet' myself.. If I were to transcribe elite I'd do it as 31337.

Quote:

(It's been awhile since I last read Megatokyo. I stopped reading some time back because the authors were posting only sporadically at best.

Fred's at a reasonably steady 3 times a week now. Though there are still dead piro days (art-days).

Quote:

Oct 29, 2001|-|3110, F00|<3|2... 1'\/3 833|\| 3><p3k71|\|9 '/0u...

::[hide]hello fools, I've been expecting you..[/hide]::

Quote:

Oct 31, 2001[tt][size=2]
|-|4\/1|\|9 4 117713 7|20u813 4kk3551|\|9 7|-|3 |\|37? |-|3|-|...

::[hide]having a little trouble accessing the net? heh...[/hide]::

Quote:

'/0u |23411z3 1 k4|\| |<33p 7|-|15 up 1|\|d3F1|\|1731'/?
\/\/17|-| '/0u|2 53|2\/3|2 d0\/\/|\|, '/0u|2 8u51|\|355 \/\/111 d13.

::[hide]you realize I can keep this up indefinately?
with your server down, your business will die.[/hide]::
(this a a damned annoying dialect of leet, they use the same character for several letters)

I'll leave the rest for someone else..

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by Icarus on Sep 6^th, 2003, 8:25am

Admittedly, I think of it as "leet" as well, but some sites I've read have claimed it is pronounced "elite", and you are first person I've seen to say otherwise. Since no one I know offline has ever even mentioned the subject, the question of how to pronouce it has always been moot for me.

There is a mistake in your first translation. All the others are right on. Hint:[hide] What makes this 1337 version fairly easy is that it uses a fixed substitution for actual english letters. That is, if a letter is represented by a set of symbols in one place, it is represented by the same symbols everywhere. Once you figure the letter represented, you can translate this straight to the source text. And, unlike most 1337, the source is perfect english, with no mispellings or added letters. I.e., this hacker would never say "r0x0rs".[/hide]

Quote:

(this a a damned annoying dialect of leet, they use the same character for several letters)

I believe there is only one symbol that is used to represent more than one letter. It represents two.

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by maryl on Sep 6^th, 2003, 1:17pm

Sorry Willy, wasn't up on the 1337. Am now.

"When in Rome"--Hint

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by Lightboxes on Sep 6^th, 2003, 10:27pm

What's so neat is that only after 1-2 minutes, it's actually easy to read and I can flow right through it...most of the time.
[hide]

Quote:

\/\/17|-| '/0u|2 53|2\/3|2 d0\/\/|\|, '/0u|2 8u51|\|355 \/\/111 d13.

With your server down your bussiness will die.

Quote:

17'5 411 83k4u53 0F '/0u, F00|<3|2. '/0u'|23 0|\|3 0F 7|-|3 8357.

It's all because of you, fooker. You're one of the best.
(ironic that towr missed that word [fooker] beacause even Icarus said it...)
Quote:

(At this point, as narrative convention demands, Fooker defeats the hacker.)

Quote:

8u7 1'/\/\ 83773|2 7|-|4|\| 7|-|3 8357.

But I'm better than the best.

Quote:

11k|< /\/\'/ |<3d5.

Lick my keds. (what does that mean)?

Quote:

1 k4|\| |-|4k|< 8-7|2335 4|20u|\|d '/0u, /\/\4|\|.

I can hack ...?... around you man.

Quote:

1 4/\/\ '/0u|2 90d...

I am your god...[/hide]

Quote:

Nov 2, 2001

Someone can finish the last part and that word I missed.

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by TenaliRaman on Sep 6^th, 2003, 10:54pm

1>1 k4|\| |-|4k|< 8-7|2335 4|20u|\|d '/0u, /\/\4|\|.

::[hide] i can hack B-trees around you man. [/hide]::

2>|\|0, 8u7 '/0u |<|\|0\/\/ \/\/|-|0 1 4/\/\...
1 4/\/\ 4 1337 |-|4k|<3|2, F4|2 5up3|210|2 70 '/0u, F00|<3|2.
'/0u'11 |\|3\/3|2 570p /\/\3. 1 4/\/\ 1|\|\/1|\|k1813!

::[hide] No, but you know who i am ... i am a elite hacker, far superior to you fooker you'll never stop me. i am invincible! [/hide]

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by BNC on Sep 7^th, 2003, 3:37am

Get used to 1337, and you may use this version (http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/) instead of the ol' boring google.

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by Icarus on Sep 7^th, 2003, 12:36pm

on 09/06/03 at 22:27:31, Lightboxes wrote:

Lick my keds. (what does that mean)?
I can hack ...?... around you man.

Keds are a brand of shoe.

And Tenali-Ramen is correct about the missing word. It is B-trees, short for "binary trees".

on 09/07/03 at 03:37:51, BNC wrote:

Get used to 1337, and you may use this version (http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/) instead of the ol' boring google.

No thanks! If I want to be nerdy and to use something incomprehensible, I'll try the Klingon version (http://www.google.com/intl/xx-klingon/) instead. Or maybe Elmer Fudd (http://www.google.com/intl/xx-elmer/).

Now - Any ideas about Maryl's puzzle?

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by SWF on Sep 7^th, 2003, 1:56pm

Maryl's clue says letters are also involved:

38: [hide]The only one forming a word, 'BE' when looked at upsidedown on a calculator.[/hide]

54: [hide]The only one when spelled out which does not have the letter E. Also no I in the last word.[/hide]

626:[hide]The only one without two vowels in a row when spelled out.[/hide]

1009: [hide]The only one without a Y when spelled out.[/hide]

2376: [hide]The only one with a V in its name.[/hide]

3129: [hide]The only one with three words in its name ending in same letter.[/hide]

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by BNC on Sep 7^th, 2003, 2:28pm

She also said 1009 was the right number, and that a word may formed from it.
Maybe [hide]Dog[/hide]?

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by wowbagger on Sep 8^th, 2003, 3:49am

Looks like Maryl's hint got people's thoughts all mixed up instead of leading them to the solution...

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by otter on Sep 8^th, 2003, 1:35pm

on 09/08/03 at 03:49:29, wowbagger wrote:

Looks like Maryl's hint got people's thoughts all mixed up instead of leading them to the solution...

I'm not sure that the answer could be this simple, but I think Julius Caesar or Marcus Aurelius would know the answer. 1009 is the only combination listed that forms a word. (Although 54 is the first name of a famous actress).

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by wowbagger on Sep 8^th, 2003, 1:49pm

on 09/08/03 at 13:35:25, otter wrote:

I think Julius Caesar or Marcus Aurelius would know the answer.

Do you think they would have understood this string of funny symbols, "1009"? ;D

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by Sameer on Sep 8^th, 2003, 4:08pm

wow all the time i was thinking

"When in rome act like romans" and then I was looking at the watch in my office and a bright bulb appeared on my head...

keke ;D
(hidden)
:: [hide]
1009 is the answer and the hint is clock letters... "mix"ed with
english dictionary... right maryl?
[/hide] ::

// 8:14 AM 9/9/2003 Hide tags added by William Wu

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by maryl on Sep 8^th, 2003, 4:29pm

RIGHT

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by TenaliRaman on Sep 9^th, 2003, 12:37am

Sameer,
4v01d d08813 k0735 , j00 91\/3 4\/\/4'/ 700 /\/\uc|-|.

1 \/\/45 4k7u411 |-|0p1|\|9 |\|0 1 pu75 7|-|3 |219|-|7 4|\|5\/\/3|2 50 7|-|47 1 k00d 533 \/\/|-|47 07|-|3|2 1d345 p30p13 k0/\/\3 up \/\/17|-| !!

;D

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by wowbagger on Sep 9^th, 2003, 3:43am

(10)-411,
7|-|15 15 ([in][bbr])'/ 4|2d0045 2 |234d!

1 49|233 |2394|2d1|\|9 7|-|3 "d08813 k0735" 7|-|0 ;D

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by TenaliRaman on Sep 9^th, 2003, 5:28am

1/\/\40!! :D

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by Sameer on Sep 9^th, 2003, 7:37am

er in english please... i am still not comfortable reading this

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by william wu on Sep 9^th, 2003, 8:36am

SaM33r:

d0[bbn]7 [omega][emptyset][bbr][bbr]`/ D00D! 1 607'Z 17 c0\/3|23D!

True story: On my graduation day from the university, three friends of mine and myself spelled out 1 3 3 7 on our mortarboard caps! (My idea.) I was the "1" 8) In general, people either understood it and thought it was 1337, or didn't understand it and were very confused. There ended up being a lot more of the latter than I expected, considering that even fellow computer science majors sitting behind us were tapping our shoulders, asking what was up with our hats. :P

Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by towr on Sep 9^th, 2003, 9:41am

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Title: Re: Individual Number
Post by Sameer on Sep 9^th, 2003, 10:48am

*sigh* looks like i will have to spend half an hour to decipher the code here... u guys do know how to make a lazy guy work .. ;D