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(Message started by: DonJuaner on Oct 9th, 2003, 7:56am)
Title: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwash ?
Post by DonJuaner on Oct 9th, 2003, 7:56am
There's an interesting study here.......if people's actions are inconsistent with their beliefs or attitudes, they will feel the tension and we call that tension as dissonance.

Right now,take an example, suppose if I want to make a friend of mine who doesn't smoke to turn into a smoker, how should I go about it??

How can I use cognitive dissonance to persuade him to smoke? Hmm........
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by towr on Oct 9th, 2003, 9:08am
Convince him that all cool people smoke, then convince he is cool.
If he thinks he's cool, but doesn't smoke, but also think all cool people smoke, there's dissonance there. To resolve that conflict he'll either have to start smoking or accept he's not cool, and everyone wants to be cool (except the really cool people).

An easier (non-psychological) way would be to feed him nicotine-gum, and then let him go in withdrawl a few days, then offer a cigarette (on a dare if that's what it takes, people will do stupid things on dares)..

You could also not try to get people hooked on cigarettes, it's better for your health as well.. And you want to be healthy don't you? :P
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by James Fingas on Oct 9th, 2003, 10:50am

on 10/09/03 at 09:08:40, towr wrote:
... everyone wants to be cool ... [snip] ... you want to be healthy don't you?


But it's not cool to be healthy ... mmm cognitive dissonance  ;D
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by towr on Oct 9th, 2003, 11:45am
That's why it's great to be dualistic.. no problems with cognitive dissonance. And you get to be inconsistant.. Drives people crazy ;D
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by maryl on Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:59am

on 10/09/03 at 11:45:47, towr wrote:
That's why it's great to be dualistic.. no problems with cognitive dissonance. And you get to be inconsistant.. Drives people crazy ;D


Ditto.

In answer to the original question, I would suggest seduction, temptation-a long, drawn out process of subtle hints or continued exposure which tends to play on someone's psyche and causes them to try something they normally wouldn't.
I'm not saying this a good thing but it does work.
Either that or a bottle of strong booze would work.
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by KenYonRuKu on Feb 15th, 2004, 4:07pm

on 11/22/03 at 10:59:43, maryl wrote:
In answer to the original question, I would suggest seduction, temptation-a long, drawn out process of subtle hints or continued exposure which tends to play on someone's psyche and causes them to try something they normally wouldn't.
I'm not saying this a good thing but it does work.


I agree. These are the sort of things that Cults do to bring people into their fold - the others are making sure that they target someone when they are at their weakest (emotionally, mentally) and discrediting the people that their mark holds dear.
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by Killa on May 8th, 2004, 12:47am
Introduce him to marijuana, then he'll think he's cool, you'll get his foot in the door, and he'll realize that he was retarted before.
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by King_T on May 25th, 2004, 12:35am
I deleted my original post here.  Please accept my apology for its content as it was in poor taste and I offer this version in its place.


As Killa said in the previous post: "...he'll realize that he was retarted before."


The Bee Bell Bakery had an incredible return policy.  If you damaged your baked goods, they would replace them with no questions asked.  

A professor bought some of these fine baked goods and started driving home.  The goods slid off of the passenger's seat and onto the floor where they were ruined.  He threw them out and went back to the bakery and got them replaced with no problems.  

Since the professor was a blatant stereotype and was absent-minded, he ended up driving around the block and stopped at the Bee Bell Bakery again.  He went in and got a replacement order for his baked goods that had fallen onto the floor of his car.  

A bakery worker smiled at the eccentric fellow as he was leaving and said to his co-worker "he'll realize that he was retarted before."
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by Icarus on May 25th, 2004, 6:54am

on 05/25/04 at 00:35:58, King_T wrote:
I deleted my original post here.  Please accept my apology for its content as it was in poor taste and I offer this version in its place.


I wouldn't of worried about it in a set of forums that also contains the "two condoms & three women" puzzle. I am probably one of the most prudish people regularly involved in these forums and I didn't find it offensive.
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by Caroline Velance on Jul 13th, 2004, 1:24pm
Hi, I just graduated with a masters from university of washington, and I would just like to say that i think  we should all go freudian - much better technique.  
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by towr on Jul 13th, 2004, 1:49pm
You can't be serious.. Freud? The man was obsessed by sex, and projected that obsession on everyone else..
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by Jesse on Aug 12th, 2005, 5:45pm
The problem with Cognitive Dissonance is that you have to get the person to initiate the behaviour that dosent match them.
From my position of psychgological ignorance, then dont all the clever psycholgogists have to resort back to basic salesman tricks?

This topic is sooo intriguing.
Oh and Freud i think got alot of things right but i think like most psychological models there is some truth in it for it to have existed for this long. I certainly dont believe we can be as primal as Freud suggests.
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by EVGENIY on Dec 5th, 2005, 10:34am
HI all!

I wondering, is there (on-line) any usefull information, articles, reports or researches on COGNITIVE DISSONANCE (in particular: students experiencing C.D. in their universities)

If there are osme, and you know them, I will be very thankfull to you for giving me an a advice ;D

Regards,


EVGENIY
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by EVGENIY on Dec 5th, 2005, 10:36am
Sorry,

Here is my mail:

boss_jendos@hotmail.com
Title: Re: How do we use cognitive dissonance to brainwas
Post by towr on Dec 5th, 2005, 11:34am
First thing you could always try is checking wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
There are some references and links at the bottom of that page.


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