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KenYonRuKu
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Mr T's Toolshed
« on: May 18th, 2005, 5:52pm » |
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In Mr T's Toolshed, there are jumpleads but no cars.
In Mr T's Toolshed there are hammers but no crowbars.
Can you find the rule for what is and isn't in Mr T's Toolshed?...
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #1 on: May 18th, 2005, 6:17pm » |
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There are lanterns but no candles.
I have some second thoughts, but here it is.
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #2 on: May 19th, 2005, 1:43am » |
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There might be chips but no computers.
On the other hand there might be snickers but no mars.
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #3 on: May 20th, 2005, 6:32pm » |
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there is food, but no crackers
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #4 on: May 22nd, 2005, 8:09pm » |
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"There are lanterns but no candles"
that's right
"there is food, but no crackers"
that's right
"There might be chips but no computers."
that's not right
"There might be snickers but no mars"
that's not right
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #5 on: May 22nd, 2005, 9:24pm » |
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There are dromedaries, but no camels.
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #6 on: May 22nd, 2005, 11:47pm » |
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"There are dromedaries, but no camels"
that's right, but why?
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #7 on: May 22nd, 2005, 11:51pm » |
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I hope it is because | hidden: | | he does not have any things that begin with the letter C |
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #8 on: May 23rd, 2005, 4:33am » |
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incorrect, speaker... sorry
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #9 on: May 23rd, 2005, 7:38am » |
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on May 22nd, 2005, 8:09pm, KenYonRuKu wrote:"There might be chips but no computers."
that's not right
"There might be snickers but no mars"
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Well from the examples it is not clear whether it is the presence of a sound, or a letter that matters (in the first case)
Or if it is the suffix that matters (second case).
So as I said, 'might'
There were at the very least three possible solutions. And now two less.
I'll try to think of some more answers that you didn't intend 
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #10 on: May 23rd, 2005, 8:22am » |
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There could be actors but no scandals
if only words without an 'a' some place after a 'c' would be ok
A more serious question, might there be accidents?
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #11 on: May 23rd, 2005, 8:25am » |
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There are trousers but no shirts.
There are humans, but no men and no women.
There are replies but no explanations.
right?
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #12 on: May 23rd, 2005, 6:38pm » |
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well here what i thought wen i first saw it
the second part is always a no, and it needs the letters C-A-S
How bout:
There is math, but no calculators.
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #13 on: May 23rd, 2005, 7:43pm » |
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on May 23rd, 2005, 8:22am, towr wrote:There could be actors but no scandals
if only words without an 'a' some place after a 'c' would be ok
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there are no actors, and no scandals either...
there are no accidents...
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #14 on: May 23rd, 2005, 7:45pm » |
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on May 23rd, 2005, 8:25am, Grimbal wrote:There are trousers but no shirts.
There are humans, but no men and no women.
There are replies but no explanations.
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1. Yes, there are trousers but no shirts
2. Yes, there are humans but no men and no women
3. No, there are no replies and no explanations
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #15 on: May 23rd, 2005, 7:47pm » |
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on May 23rd, 2005, 6:38pm, baddab457 wrote:well here what i thought wen i first saw it
the second part is always a no, and it needs the letters C-A-S
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There is no math... there are no calculators...
As for the explanation, it is not the right one... keep guessing everyone!
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #16 on: May 23rd, 2005, 7:50pm » |
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Here are two more examples:
There are letters but no words
There is yellow but no orange
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #17 on: May 24th, 2005, 1:14am » |
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There doesn't seem to be anything with a C in it.. But that doesn't explain why there are no men, women, shirts or words etc 
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #18 on: May 24th, 2005, 1:30am » |
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I am not sure yet. But I do not think it is an overall rule. I think the rule is based on the two word choices. For example; the acceptable word has an odd number of letters therefore the unacceptable word must have an even number. (This is just an easy example. I am going to try some ideas now.) This would make the procedure for solving the riddle different from similar riddles. Instead of looking at groups, we would need to look at pairs. And, discover the rule that works with each pair.
Just an idea, back to the word processing application. 
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #19 on: May 24th, 2005, 2:08am » |
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But if it works per pair, then you could get that an object that's not in the shed in one case, would be there in another case.
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #20 on: May 24th, 2005, 5:14am » |
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Maybe....
There is a piano and a flute
There is no vestibule and no upholstery
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #21 on: May 24th, 2005, 4:30pm » |
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on May 24th, 2005, 5:14am, Grimbal wrote:Maybe....
There is a piano and a flute
There is no vestibule and no upholstery
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Correct on both counts!
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #22 on: May 25th, 2005, 2:08am » |
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Then I think I know.
And there is a yack a koala and a gnu,
there is no xylophone and no nails.
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #23 on: May 25th, 2005, 4:00am » |
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Good stuff grimbal....
now what is the rule?
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Re: Mr T's Toolshed
« Reply #24 on: May 25th, 2005, 7:16am » |
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