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username101
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Life after death
« on: Aug 12th, 2007, 12:36pm » |
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I believe in it how many skeptics are on this website tho post ur reasons
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #1 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 12:48pm » |
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i don't... i believe everything we see or who we are (or as we say life) is just a biochemical process that was triggered due to right conditions and the end of such a biochemical reaction is death...
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #2 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 12:53pm » |
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but you can also be recarnated in some religions, but when you rot u rot but ghosts can come back to haunt plus my gramma died 2 weeks ago from cancer, and she told us she had some conversations with some old freinds which died long ago.
And another thing she said she was leaving on a trip in a week one week be4 she died
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #3 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 12:59pm » |
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on Aug 12th, 2007, 12:54pm, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting there are corpses that rise from their graves at night to drink the blood of the living?
Do I also need to state my reasons for believing that the moon is not made of yellow cheese? 
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im not suggesting zombies but of places like heaven and hell, coming back to the world in a different being, not just human but animal, or even just a spirit
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #4 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 1:02pm » |
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I'm skeptical about life after death. There isn't really any proof (other than anecdotes which may as well be made up, hallucinations or misinterpretations). If someone is really dead, they can't come back to report what happens afterwards.
And considering the large number of views on an afterlife, they can't all be right; and then which would be, if any? There isn't any argument to prefer one over the other.
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #6 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 1:10pm » |
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on Aug 12th, 2007, 12:53pm, username101 wrote:| but you can also be recarnated in some religions |
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I know.. I am a Hindu and they believe that this happens.. yet I don't as I mentioned earlier..
Few questions:
Why only religious people see ghosts?
When someone claims to talk about bright light and what not who's to say their physical condition didn't cause a psychological effect?
The way our neural pathways are programmed, who's to say what mind can concoct up!!!
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #7 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 1:21pm » |
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not only religous people see ghosts.
And yes the "light at the end of tunnel" could just be ur mind shutting down or something along that line. but in many cases people good and bad that go down that tunnel and come back out say that there was a great being at the end of th tunnel then made them feel secure, happy and that all wrong was right
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #8 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 1:23pm » |
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on Aug 12th, 2007, 12:59pm, username101 wrote:
im not suggesting zombies but of places like heaven and hell, coming back to the world in a different being, not just human but animal, or even just a spirit
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Sorry, I confused this thread with the Vampire one.
Then I went and deleted my post, not realizing that you had responded (or perhaps you responded later).
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #9 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 1:28pm » |
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no i responded to it but all well
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #10 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 1:41pm » |
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on Aug 12th, 2007, 1:28pm, username101 wrote:| no i responded to it but all well |
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What I want to know is 'Is there life before death?' 
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #11 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 1:43pm » |
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now that is a hard question because if there is life after death there must be life before death or else we are not really here and what are we doing right now will have no consequence
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #12 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 1:51pm » |
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on Aug 12th, 2007, 1:43pm, username101 wrote:| now that is a hard question because if there is life after death there must be life before death or else we are not really here and what are we doing right now will have no consequence |
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I jokingly meant life as in one worth living, duh.
I guess I am not the only one who should get out more. 
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #13 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 1:56pm » |
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on Aug 12th, 2007, 1:08pm, username101 wrote:http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-proof.htm
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I'd say, sometimes people think they remember past lives.
And with the thousands of people that think that, some will have come up with details that actually fit some deceased person's life well enough to give some suggestion of past life memory.
It never seems to be some very definite detail though, like the proof to Fermat's last theorem. Now if someone came back remembering that, that'd be interesting and highly unique.
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #14 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 3:57pm » |
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or if galileo came back, and life is worth living or else we would all go emo and slit our wrists and hang ourselves
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #15 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 11:32pm » |
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Personally, I believe in life after death. I also believe in life before death. Just because I don't any recollection of either, does not mean it's not true. I don't remember any of the time I spent in my mother's womb, but I definitely was there ! ( According to my mom, who do not have any reason to say otherwise )
Whether the life after death is about reincarnation, or about paradise or hades, or maybe something totally different, well, that's up to the individual's beliefs. We each have our own religion; even then, we choose what we want to believe, as Sameer had pointed out.
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #16 on: Aug 12th, 2007, 11:36pm » |
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yay some1 believes what i believe it thought i w*ould b the only one but true you believe what you believe but im just trying to get a convo going
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #17 on: Aug 13th, 2007, 1:04am » |
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When you die, your soul goes up on a roof and you can't get it down.
Well, ok, so I only really believe in religion as parody. What else would I get out of it, though?
I'm more a discordian than frisbeetarian though, but I don't recall discordianism having any tenets about life after death.
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #18 on: Aug 13th, 2007, 7:06am » |
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I generally take the view that, once I'm dead, either I'll find out what happens, or it won't matter to me much. Either way, there's not a lot I can do about it, and worrying about what awaits me isn't going to do much other than distract from other things.
But I certainly don't begrudge anyone having their own beliefs about such matters...
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #19 on: Aug 16th, 2007, 10:01am » |
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on Aug 12th, 2007, 11:36pm, username101 wrote:| ...but im just trying to get a convo going |
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Yeah, but we discussed this before in Medium.
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #20 on: Aug 18th, 2007, 2:38am » |
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The question is there a life after death? Well the way i see it there are a few answers.
1. It has not been discovered yet
2. It does not exist
3. Our minds are to feeble to possibly grasp this
4. Depends on what you count as life and death
That's my opinion, if you would like to add please feel free, but for now i believe there is no reincarnation or ressurection ofr those who either chose not to have it or deserve it.
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #21 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 4:48pm » |
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on Aug 18th, 2007, 2:38am, mikedagr8 wrote:
...how do you define 'life'?
Is it body? Obviously not.
Is it mind, personality, etc?
I would call this 'ego', a sense of self.
Does (the ego of) a dewdrop exist after sliding into the shining sea?
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #22 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 5:33pm » |
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I think the biggest question to ask would be what is it that makes us (most 'lifeform' as we say) self-aware ... Leaving aside the philosophical aspects of life/death etc., is it your neural pathways? What biochemical agent is there in living organisms that give them self-awareness. The other thing I always find myself thinking about is can we answer this question using an analogy to computers/software?
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #23 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 7:18pm » |
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on Aug 21st, 2007, 5:33pm, Sameer wrote:| I think the biggest question to ask would be what is it that makes us (most 'lifeform' as we say) self-aware ... |
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Did SkyNet become self-aware in the twinkling of an I or do you believe there are shades of self-awareness?
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Re: Life after death
« Reply #24 on: Aug 21st, 2007, 9:48pm » |
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on Aug 21st, 2007, 7:18pm, ThudanBlunder wrote:
Did SkyNet become self-aware in the twinkling of an I or do you believe there are shades of self-awareness? |
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I don't know what to think of the skynet!!! The movie doesn't talk a lot about what it was, how it was built, etc.
As far as the other question I believe there are shades of self-awareness which leads to various characteristics or evolutionary properties. As for e.g. a bacteria is self-aware and knows its purpose as to reproduce. Higher living organisms like humans use self-awareness as discussion topics. I really like this story:
http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
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