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The best way to start a conversation with wo
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What are the cool, effective ways to start a conversation with a woman, who is a stranger, but absolutely gorgeous - and the one you'd like to persue? Geeks, chime in with ideas that has been working for you.
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &nbs
« Reply #1 on: Sep 10th, 2006, 2:38pm » |
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If she's in a group, I'd say position yourself fairly close by, and just wait to see if there's an interesting point you can raise in the conversation they're having and drop it in fairly casually. Don't make a big deal out of it, and introuduce yourself when they ask - shows some confidence, and gets you into the group first, rather than singling out one person.
If she's on her own, then just go over and say hi. Ask her how she is, and start getting to know her. Main thing is to be yourself as much as possible, and keep it relaxed. JMO
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &
« Reply #2 on: Sep 11th, 2006, 5:17pm » |
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That might work in Britain, Three Hands, but puzzlecracker and I live in NYC. It's a little more complicated here.
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &
« Reply #3 on: Sep 11th, 2006, 8:31pm » |
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on Sep 11th, 2006, 5:17pm, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:| That might work in Britain, Three Hands, but puzzlecracker and I live in NYC. It's a little more complicated here. |
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 3:12pm » |
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on Sep 11th, 2006, 5:17pm, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:| That might work in Britain, Three Hands, but puzzlecracker and I live in NYC. It's a little more complicated here. |
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Complicated in what way? If you don't explain the issues to those who don't know, it's very hard for them to help.
I'm not saying that the methods I suggest will work. If there were some way of introducing yourself positively to a stranger you're interested in, then it would become common knowledge pretty quickly - not to mention remove a fair amount of the fun involved.
Still, have you even tried what I suggested? If not, on what grounds are you dismissing them? If you simply believe that they fail, then perhaps confidence is the issue, rather than technique...
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with wo
« Reply #5 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 3:58pm » |
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I wish I was expert in this area then solving math problems... wait i wish i was expert in everything.. 
no but seriously i have noticed from my experience that being yourself helps retain or form friendships... that's true.. however i think the real question is initiation.. how do you start.. the inertia is pretty high for us geeks ... but i think if you have some common ground.. in school together .. or at work or maybe even same taste in some sport or gym you can always start with a smile/hi and then slowly increase your conversation length.. i think 
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &nbs
« Reply #6 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 12:18am » |
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You could always start a conversation with a woman by asking what in general she thinks would be a good way to start a conversation with a woman.
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &
« Reply #7 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 1:47pm » |
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on Sep 14th, 2006, 3:12pm, Three Hands wrote:
Complicated in what way? If you don't explain the issues to those who don't know, it's very hard for them to help.
I'm not saying that the methods I suggest will work. If there were some way of introducing yourself positively to a stranger you're interested in, then it would become common knowledge pretty quickly - not to mention remove a fair amount of the fun involved.
Still, have you even tried what I suggested? If not, on what grounds are you dismissing them? If you simply believe that they fail, then perhaps confidence is the issue, rather than technique... |
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Sorry, I didn't mean to seem snide or dismissive of your suggestions. I only meant that in NYC, people usually react differently to these methods. It's just a different world here.
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &
« Reply #8 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 8:54am » |
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on Sep 15th, 2006, 1:47pm, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to seem snide or dismissive of your suggestions. I only meant that in NYC, people usually react differently to these methods. It's just a different world here. |
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My my, how cynical your world is 
Fundamentally, then, I guess you need some kind of ice-breaker which isn't going to cause offence, or immediately put the target on the defensive. Beyond being genuine and sincere with a compliment, and not appearing to be too smooth/too much of a player, I can't think of much that would do that.
About the only other thing I can think of is to try and pick up on what the women's intentions are before making an approach, just in terms of what she's out looking to do, and even whether she's noticed you. Not something I'm an expert on, but there's probably a fair bit on the internet which can teach you.
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with wo
« Reply #9 on: Feb 7th, 2007, 5:50pm » |
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Quoting Joey Tribbiani..
"Hey, how you doin ? "
Haven't tried it with total strangers, but casual acquaintances dig it.. 
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &
« Reply #10 on: Feb 11th, 2007, 10:27pm » |
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on Sep 15th, 2006, 12:18am, towr wrote:| You could always start a conversation with a woman by asking what in general she thinks would be a good way to start a conversation with a woman. |
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I picked towr suggestion, because it is probably the best way to start a conversation with anyone. Opinion questions are the best in a sense that you're don't appear as a typical horny guy who commenting how great her(or maybe his) ass looks - thus hitting on her. Rather, you initiate a conversation as a friend who is honestly interested in an opinion and making friends. Thus, telling women, " Hi, I need a female opinion on something... " is a great opener. Women (let's ignore weird, mentally unable, etc., case for now - it is life!) are usually very receptive and programmed to give advices, express opinions. As you develop a conversation, state that you want to make friends and get to know... that is, be different from every other guy who's trying to get laid...
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &
« Reply #11 on: May 25th, 2007, 4:39am » |
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on Sep 9th, 2006, 10:35am, puzzlecracker wrote:| What are the cool, effective ways to start a conversation with a woman, who is a stranger, but absolutely gorgeous - and the one you'd like to persue? Geeks, chime in with ideas that has been working for you. |
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May be first , you have to give her a look which says
"Oh My Godddddd , you are the most beautiful women in the world, and yeah , you look 1000 times better than your best friend "
This is what i have understood from my friend ( friend who is a gal , yeah the same gal in the other thread)
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with wo
« Reply #12 on: May 25th, 2007, 1:29pm » |
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dont leer at her... but every woman likes to feel attractive so giving her an appreciative look will most likely be well received. then go introduce yourself!
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with wo
« Reply #13 on: May 27th, 2007, 7:56pm » |
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Umm, and what's the difference between appreciative look and leering ?
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« Reply #14 on: May 27th, 2007, 8:39pm » |
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appreciative look is more... *searching for right words...* a genuine smile  with maybe a slightly raised eyebrow like you weren't expecting to find something so good looking while leering is more suggestive and more (eyes popping out of head, grinning wolfishly, etc)... um too aggressive (confrontational)? i'm having a hard time discribing it but its probably safe to say that if you are thinking about how good she looks as is you are smiling appreciatively... if you are imagining how she looks with her clothes off you are probably leering.
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &nbs
« Reply #15 on: May 28th, 2007, 1:13am » |
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on May 27th, 2007, 7:56pm, JiNbOtAk wrote:| Umm, and what's the difference between appreciative look and leering ? |
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Leering is using binoculars
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« Reply #16 on: May 28th, 2007, 9:36pm » |
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on May 27th, 2007, 8:39pm, ima1trkpny wrote:| i'm having a hard time discribing it but its probably safe to say that if you are thinking about how good she looks as is you are smiling appreciatively... if you are imagining how she looks with her clothes off you are probably leering. |
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What if I was thinking how good she looks, but I want to take her clothes off ?
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« Reply #17 on: May 28th, 2007, 9:40pm » |
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as long as it doesn't show on your face too much you are good.
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &nbs
« Reply #18 on: Jun 3rd, 2007, 8:48pm » |
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I have one friend who literally says
things to women like, "You probably wouldn't like
me. I don't really have relationships with women.
Our relationship will probably go no further than
the physical..." He's so calm and laid back around women that they have to often pursue HIM... and it happens a lot. He's blunt, direct, and honest about whatever is on his mind. He doesn't chase women, buy them things, or smother them with compliments... and yet, they love him. And he has a crew of guy friends who all love him and think he's one of the "coolest" guys in the world.
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with wo
« Reply #19 on: Jun 4th, 2007, 12:20am » |
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true... many women are attracted by something they find unusual or mysterious and he has made himself that in their minds because we sometimes like to invent things that aren't really there. most of those women probably think that behind his blunt exterior there is something hidden and so they will pursue him in an attempt to find out what he is really like. i respect honest people so cudos to him, i have no problem with players as long as they tell you from the get go what their expectations are instead of making up lies and sucking up to pursue their own agenda. however, i am a bit old fashioned and prefer to let the men come to me.
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 4th, 2007, 12:45am » |
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I have skimmed the thread, as the hour does not permit me to digest much information. I have had a 'coach' of sorts on the topic.
First, I know it shouldn't matter, but in my experience, what is the age range of the women you are trying to approach and what is your age?
In my case, I've had more luck with college girls than I did with girls in high school. I am 16 currently.
The best points I can put across at this hour:
1. If you care about what you bring up with a woman for the first time, she will generally respond positively. If she does not, it's probably not anything negative towards you, but more an issue of something else that has been happening to her that day/recently.
2. DINNER AND/OR GOING TO THE MOVIES ARE POSSIBLY THE TWO WORST DATE VENUES.
-Dinner - has a 'defined' end. Sure, it's not a specific time, but it's when the meal is over. Better to ask her to a coffee shop on a dreary day. This gives you more time to talk to her. She can end this whenever she likes, but in the following situations, you tell me which is preferable:
a) You are at a coffee shop, hanging out, talking, getting along great. No clearly defined end. Hell, you don't even have to be having coffee, they're not going to ask you to leave(never happened to me or my coach).
b) You are at a nice restaurant, in a good conversation. You could attempt to extend the date by inviting her to your place(depending on your age, and the woman, this can end badly) or then to go to a coffee shop. Chances are, after a nice dinner, she's not going to be too keen on going to have coffee. Again, this is of the experience of me and my coach.
-Movie - has an even more defined end, plus you can't even talk. What good is that in the sense of catalyzing a relationship? It's no good. Sure, movies are fine after 5+ dates, but it's dumb on the first-fifth or so.
3. There is no 'magic catch phrase' that works for everyone, every time. Sometimes it's great, other times it sucks. One such example is a line my coach and I both use commonly. 'What did you want to be when you were a kid?' To stereotype, women would rather you ask about their past, their childhood, than their future. This line often works wonders within the first 10 minutes of a first conversation for me and my coach about 60%(just a guess here) of the time. However, our friends have attempted to use it and had horrible success with it.
4. Don't be discouraged from asking her if she's single or not. I used to shy from it a lot, but if you ask with some finesse, even soon after meeting her, it doesn't usually hurt you(whether you're looking for a relationship or a friend after you hear her answer).
5. You are not as imperfect in the eyes of a woman as you may or may not think you are. My coach is over 300 pounds(big stomach). In the past two years he's gotten about 800 numbers(of the 1000-1100 that he's talked to[approximation]) from attractive women. I myself have not had as much success, but it was rocky for him as he started too. Don't take this to mean that you can ignore your imperfections. Work on them, research better face washes, talk to your friends about getting nicer clothes, join a gym, etc. but don't be discouraged from talking to women in the meantime.
6. This, despite being the sixth and last item, is quite possibly the most important. Others have mentioned it. Confidence. Period. If you're not confident, yet you're the most handsome man, you're not going to get a woman(save for a completely superficial one).
Another thing you must ask yourself is do you want:
a) a friend
b) a lay
or c) a relationship
Most guys end up with a woman they hate because they don't know what some of us know. Sure, you might go into a conversation thinking one way, and quickly find out that it is not what you want from her and change your thinking, but you have to have a foundation. It's best to meet as many women as possible to really find one you'll be happy with.
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with &nbs
« Reply #21 on: Jun 14th, 2007, 10:47am » |
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for those of you who fear meeting women in a bar,
Try this:
Pick up your drink, walk over to the table,
think of the funniest moment of your life so you
have a smile on your face and say, "What, are you
girls shy or something?"
When they say, "NO, why?"
Answer, "Because I've been sitting at the next
table for at least a half hour and you haven't
come over to say hi to me!"
I have about 3 different friends who all use
variations of this opening... and it works great
(if you're having fun when you say it).
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Re: The best way to start a conversation with wo
« Reply #22 on: Jun 14th, 2007, 11:55am » |
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Damn... Puzzlecracker have you ever actually had an original idea and not just copied things from others
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« Reply #23 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 1:34am » |
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