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Shape of the universe  
« on: Aug 4th, 2016, 9:25am »
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Prove that universe is a box!
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 8th, 2016, 7:57pm »
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If this were in the easy forum, I'd say because it has a 'Jack' in it.
If it were in medium, I might argue that the shape of the universe is topologically equivalent to a box.  (Black holes notwithstanding.)
If it were in hard, I would wait for someone more knowledgeable and smarter than me to answer, and then read their post!
 
Since it's in 'what happened', though, I'll have to guess that "The universe" is the name of a particular box. Perhaps one belonging to Pandora?
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #2 on: Aug 9th, 2016, 12:47am »
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No, no, no and no. But at least you tried.
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #3 on: Aug 9th, 2016, 8:51am »
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The universe being a box is no less likely than Trump being a presidential candidate. Since the latter is true, the former must also be true.
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #4 on: Aug 9th, 2016, 9:03am »
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Give the good man a break. After all, he proposed deportation of all illegal immigrants.
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #5 on: Aug 19th, 2016, 7:32am »
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I guess an out-of-the-box answer is kind of excluded?
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #6 on: Aug 19th, 2016, 8:42am »
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I am not mistaken then the universe is a box.
 
Well, maybe it is true, maybe it is not.  Let's see.
 
P = I am not mistaken
Q = The universe is a box.
 
So I claim P => Q.
 
If I am mistaken, then P => Q is false, but that means P is true and Q is false.  If P is true, then I am NOT mistaken.  This is a contradiction.
 
Therefore I am not mistaken.  That means P => Q is rue, and since P is true, Q must also be true.  The universe is a box.
 
QED
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 19th, 2016, 12:27pm »
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on Aug 19th, 2016, 7:32am, Grimbal wrote:
I guess an out-of-the-box answer is kind of excluded?

Why?
 
 
on Aug 19th, 2016, 8:42am, Grimbal wrote:
I am not mistaken then the universe is a box.
 
Well, maybe it is true, maybe it is not.  Let's see.
 
P = I am not mistaken
Q = The universe is a box.
 
So I claim P => Q.
 
If I am mistaken, then P => Q is false, but that means P is true and Q is false.  If P is true, then I am NOT mistaken.  This is a contradiction.
 
Therefore I am not mistaken.  That means P => Q is rue, and since P is true, Q must also be true.  The universe is a box.
 
QED

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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #8 on: Aug 19th, 2016, 12:36pm »
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on Aug 8th, 2016, 7:57pm, dudiobugtron wrote:
If this were in the easy forum, I'd say because it has a 'Jack' in it.

I'm not sure I follow but it looks to me like you're on the right track.
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #9 on: Aug 21st, 2016, 8:14am »
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on Aug 19th, 2016, 7:32am, Grimbal wrote:
I guess an out-of-the-box answer is kind of excluded?

on Aug 19th, 2016, 12:27pm, alien2 wrote:

Why?

 
Well, because if the universe is a box, there is nothing outside of the box.
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #10 on: Aug 21st, 2016, 9:09am »
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on Aug 21st, 2016, 8:14am, Grimbal wrote:

 
 
Well, because if the universe is a box, there is nothing outside of the box.

That's smart. I was initially thinking you was implying that creative thinking isn't necessary in order to solve the riddle. Silly me. Maybe you're right. Since Barrack Obama is often called dumbass, and he is not the only one, maybe it truly is time time for changes.  
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #11 on: Aug 22nd, 2016, 10:38am »
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on Aug 19th, 2016, 12:27pm, alien2 wrote:
You riddlers baffle me.

On Grimbal's part - a skillful blend of fluffy English and Modus Ponens ... if I am not mistaken.
 
 
Without the intention of stealing dudiobugtron's thunder, his idea - his credit, if I read it correctly - universe is an electronic game console of sort that is a box (a rectangular prism) and it has a power chord and jack - to plug into the wall outlet.
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #12 on: Aug 22nd, 2016, 1:15pm »
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Nice try. I had something else in mind.
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 22nd, 2016, 2:04pm »
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on Aug 22nd, 2016, 10:38am, rloginunix wrote:
Without the intention of stealing dudiobugtron's thunder, his idea - his credit, if I read it correctly

My idea was an allusion to a jack-in-the-box. Since the universe has a jack in it, it must be a box.  Your idea is separate and you deserve your own credit.
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #14 on: Aug 23rd, 2016, 1:01am »
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Again, I don't follow. It appears I can be very bright or rather dumb. In any case, I hope you'll keep looking for the intended answer as well.
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #15 on: Aug 31st, 2016, 6:28am »
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A hint: Perhaps a part from Harry Potter will direct you on the right track.  
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Re: Shape of the universe  
« Reply #16 on: Sep 3rd, 2016, 10:24am »
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I decided not to torment you anymore. It is a darn anagram and a difficult one too. Sue Ervin Box. The name is a bit strange. Is it not?
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