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shasta
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Foiled Again!
« on: Jan 18th, 2008, 1:24pm » |
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As an evil genius, you have an outstanding ability to flawlessly carry out the most brilliant of evil schemes. Well, flawlessly that is if you ignore the frequency of your henchmen to be "bumbling". And most recently your flawless plan... actually come to think of it you also have the flaw of habitually giving heros an arrogant chance of survival when you could have easily killed them. That's come back to haunt you a couple times. But that won't happen today, because today your plan... speaking of your plans, have you ever considered the wisdom of your maniacal tendency to fanatically embrace every single scheme you think of? You know, just because it happens to pop into your head doesn't by itself make it a fantastic idea. Remember last year when you managed to get the Swedish bikini team trapped on the planet Melmac and then crashed your own spaceship there leaving you as the only male with them? Yes, it was executed flawlessly, and I admit that sending them a fake radio transmission from NASA which arrived just before you did saying "The Earth has been destroyed and it is your duty to try and perpetuate the human species!" was a work of genius. But if you'd have just taken a minute to check the original idea at all you'd have realized the youngest of them is now 57 years old and that...
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Ahem, as I was saying, being an evil genius, you have an outstanding ability to flawlessly carry out the most brilliant of evil schemes. Most recently you've managed to capture your arch-nemesis Bonds, Escape Bonds, and um, cleverly invested $10,000,000 in a giant contraption designed to kill him in a way that is much more... brainy than simply firing your gun at him. Your last words to Mr. Bonds were as follows....
****I keep getting "message too long" errors when I preview this, so I'll continue it in a reply to this.****
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #1 on: Jan 18th, 2008, 1:25pm » |
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"Mr. Bonds, since you have deemed it necessary to interfere in my evil schemes once again I'm afraid you've left me no choice but to kill you. Being a genius I naturally anticipated this eventuality and prepared for it. Now I'm aware of your reputation for escaping from the most precarious of situations, a well earned reputation I might add, but this time I'm sure even you will agree that the fate I've prepared for you is escape-proof. As you will soon realize, I've left nothing to chance and spared no expense in creating the most diabolical trap in the history of evil geniuses. After the sleeping drug takes effect, my henchmen will strip you of all clothing and do a full body search to remove any of the neat gizmos you always seem to have handily available. They will then dress you only in a pair of boxers that we are supplying and can guarantee have no hidden compartments and replace your glasses so that you may fully see your doom. Naturally we will be checking and removing any secret devices contained by those glasses as well. When you awaken, you will be standing on a small 3 foot circular platform halfway up my 200 ft. tower of doom! You will notice that not only is the platform curved so that standing on it resembles standing on an opened umbrella, it will also be coated in grease. Not terribly frightening for one of your acrobatic abilities I know, but let's just say you don't want to slip. Beneath you about halfway down is an extremely sharp blade, long enough to cover the entire diameter of the tower spinning at 200 MPH around the pole upon which your platform is balanced. In fact, the entire pole is spinning at this speed, with the exception of the platform on top. Trust me Mr. Bonds, that blade will not even slow down as it repeatedly slices you if you fall through it's path.
Beneath the spinning blade, you will see the bottom 15 feet of the tower of doom will be filled with water. At the bottom of the pole, in the water, is the dial which can be turned to stop the pole and blade from spinning. Also in this water will be 5 man-eating crocodiles. Five HUNGRY man-eating crocodiles that is. I'm confident enough in my scheme to go ahead and tell you that also in the water is the door leading out. That door happens to open in towards the tower however, and I believe you will find it impossible to open with the water there. However just in case I've taken the additional precaution of locking it and taping the key to the very ceiling of the tower, inside a cage affixed to the ceiling and filled with 100 of my best trained killer attack turkeys! Muhuhahahahaha! That's right, I've taken these turkeys from hatchlings and raised them to scratch and peck at humans' vital organs with such ferocity that I doubt you could handle even one turkey Mr. Bonds, let alone 100! The cage door is on the bottom by the way, which might make it easier for you to turn the handle and open it should you wish to be descended upon by a swarm of killer turkeys. I repeat, muhuhahaha!
Ah yes, I see the weight of the situation is starting to dawn on you Mr. Bonds, but I still see a glimmer of hope in your eyes. Allow me to snuff that out for you. Also embedded in the ceiling inside the cage is a large hook, through which will be threaded a 200 foot rope. 100 ft down, on one end of the rope will be a 200 lb. weight which you will be carrying and won't want to drop, because on the other end of the rope will be a noose that will be tied around your neck. Considering you seem to weigh about 160 lbs, that should do the trick, shouldn't it? Especially considering your hands will be tied together with another piece of rope?
You don't look like you know how you're going to get out of this Mr. Bonds. Well maybe the playmate I'll be giving you can help. You can find him coiled up inside a large basket that will be sharing the platform with you. His name is Coiley, and he's a 300 foot 195 lb python. He'll be asleep when you awaken, and he can be a little cranky if you wake him up too soon, but don't worry. I've set the alarm clock, encased in bullet-proof glass embedded directly into the wall about 25 feet from the ceiling, to wait a full 10 minutes after the drugs wear off and you wake up before ringing.
Mr. Bonds, as you can see there is no escape. I look forward to my henchmen telling me which method of death you chose. Or which one you couldn't avoid. Will you jump to your doom? Will you manage to get killed by the turkeys? Will you hang? Or will you stand quietly and look out the small barred window in the tower, watching the sunset outside as you slowly get eaten by Coiley? Oh and don't think this window offers any real hope either. It's bars are too small for you to fit through and besides, beneath it directly adjacent to the tower is a cliff with a rocky bottom. I see from the droopiness of your eyes that you won't be able to withstand the drugs any longer and it's time for me to say goodnight Mr. Bonds, and good luck when you awaken. Muhuhahahaha!"
Of course, being evil doesn't always mean being dishonest, and in this case everything you said to Mr. Bonds was true. Your henchmen set everything up explicitly as planned, and Mr. Bonds did wake up in the tower exactly as promised. In fact any second now, one of your henchmen will walk through that door and tell you exactly how Mr. Bonds died.
"I wouldn't bet on that!"
Mr. Bonds! It can't be! How did you escape?
Do YOU know?
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shasta
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #2 on: Jan 18th, 2008, 1:26pm » |
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A few guidelines to keep you in the right direction.
1. There is nothing in the tower other than what's been described. Escape Bonds didn't smuggle anything in with him and nothing was previously hidden there.
2. Mr. Bonds does not have any magical powers or additional skills that haven't been described already. He isn't a world champion crocodile wrestler or a snake charmer. He is however a known escape artist and an acrobat.
3. No persons, pets, aliens, acts of weather, etc. came to Mr. Bonds' aid.
4. There are no extraordinary properties about anything involved that I left out. (As in, I'm not requiring you to just guess that the walls of this tower are actually made of paper).
5. There are some important facts that I expect to come up in discussion. I will note these when they do.
6. Although I have a particular solution in mind, any solution that works is correct. Hopefully I didn't miss anything too obvious.
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StallionMang
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #3 on: Jan 18th, 2008, 5:54pm » |
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Jesus, my eyes hurt after reading that.
Anyway, I guess I'll get it started....
I think the solution would involve tying the snake tightly around his leg, or his waist, and then dropping the snake headfirst through the spinning blade, while dropping the weight at the same time. When the spinning blade has chopped off enough of the snake's body that only approx. 40 lbs remains, then the combined weight of the remaining Snake carcass and Mr. Bond will equal the weight on the other end of the rope, creating equilibrium.
Actually, I wrote all that without really thinking about whether that would gain him anything. But it sounds kinda cool.
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #4 on: Jan 18th, 2008, 6:45pm » |
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bonds can just jump off the platform because both the platform and the blade and bonds on top of the platform are spinning at the same speed. according to the laws of physics, the momentum bonds has when he jumps down will make him spin just as fast as the blade all the way down the tower. it would be as if the blade is standing still, so avoiding it should be easy.
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So, if I help you, I'll get kicked for ksing, but if I don't, then I'll get kick for not helping...
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #5 on: Jan 18th, 2008, 6:57pm » |
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1) bonds escapes from all the ropes.
2) bonds holds the noose in his hands and releases the weight. bonds goes up when the weight goes down hits the blade, the blade breaks.
3)bonds hangs on to the side of the cage and opens it. the turkeys, who can't fly, fall down and feed the crocs.
4)bonds climbs in the cage and gets the key
5) he dives down to the water swims past the full and probably sleeping crocs, opens the door, and ESCAPES!
he does this all before coiley wakes up
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So, if I help you, I'll get kicked for ksing, but if I don't, then I'll get kick for not helping...
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #6 on: Jan 18th, 2008, 8:01pm » |
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You guys are good, I'm going to have to award points a lot faster than I'd thought I would.
StallionMang gets 20 points for tying the rope to the snake to the weight and lowering it down and chop off it's head and tail. However Mr. Bonds does not have a scale with him to weigh the remaining part of the snake to insure it is 40 lbs, nor have you suggested a reason why he might want to create an exact counterbalance to the weight.
iono gets 20 points for noting this important fact. If Mr. Bonds is moving at the same speed and velocity as the blade, moving past it should be easy. However as Mr. Bonds was told before, the platform itself isn't spinning... "In fact, the entire pole is spinning at this speed, with the exception of the platform on top.", and even if it were, once Mr. Bonds left the platform, his momentum would just be a straight line towards one of the walls, which if he was fortunate would knock him unconscious before he fell through the blade.
iono gets another 15 points for noting this important fact. Turkeys can't fly.
iono gets another 20 points for opening the cage and letting the turkeys drop to their doom, feeding the crocs and putting them to sleep in the process.
iono's overall solution however has a couple fatal flaws. One of them is a 200 lb weight can do a lot of damage to the blade when it hits, but it probable won't break it entirely. In all likelihood the weight would pass a blade which, though battered and dented, is still perfectly capable of chopping the rope that is now in it's path... the other end of which contains Mr. Bonds. The other one I'll tell you when you get past this one. 
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #7 on: Jan 20th, 2008, 8:42pm » |
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use the glasses to magnify light and start a fire to burn through the rope before dropping the weight so then Bond doesn't get hanged (This is after the turkeys are fed to the crocs)
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #8 on: Jan 20th, 2008, 10:33pm » |
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Okay,
So after he chops off the head and tail of the snake, he gets it so that his half of the rope is only slightly lighter than the side with the weight attached to it. Then he will begin to rise slowly up towards the cage. He can hold onto the rope just above the noose to prevent himself from choking. After he opens the cage and lets the turkeys fall to their death, he grabs the key.
Then, he grasps the hook with one hand and hangs from it by that one arm. He then uses his other arm to slide the noose off of his neck and place it around the hook. He can then slide down the entire length of rope to the water. He drops into the water, assuming that the crocs will be busy feeding on the snake bits and turkey carcasses.
Now there is the problem of opening the door, which is held shut by water pressure. I am guessing he will have to use something sharp to puncture a hole through the door. I haven't figured that out yet.
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #9 on: Jan 21st, 2008, 12:49am » |
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Following up on my previous post...
I forgot about that damn blade, so I guess he can't just climb down the rope. 
In fact the rope will get chopped by the blade, so that the hanging rope now only reaches the blade, and the rest ends up in the water below.
So maybe he doesn't climb back down the rope, but instead just lets himself drop. By the time he reaches the blade, his body will be travelling faster than 200mph in freefall, so he won't get cut.
When he hits the water, he recovers the chopped segment of rope. Then he could swim over to the door and tie one end of the rope segment to the handle of the door (there is a handle, right?), then he wraps the other end around the pole, and the spinning pole will effectively reel in the rope and pull the door right off its hinge. Then Mr. Bond rides the wave through the door and to freedom!!
uh...yeah.
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #10 on: Jan 21st, 2008, 9:18am » |
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if you hit water at more than 60,70 feet above it, you'll die.
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cuz everybody noe that the game dont stop try to make it to the top fo ur ass get popped
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #12 on: Jan 21st, 2008, 10:18am » |
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on Jan 21st, 2008, 9:18am, thecow135 wrote:| if you hit water at more than 60,70 feet above it, you'll die. |
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It depends on how you hit it. Aand even then, 70 feet isn't that much; it's only twice as high as the top diving platform.
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #13 on: Jan 21st, 2008, 5:46pm » |
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Mr. Bonds, would you like to weigh in here?
Mr Bonds: Certainly. First I must say, you've got a fine bunch of puzzle solvers here trying to figure out my exploit. It's really quite flattering.
I'm sure they appreciate hearing it Escape, but can you tell us how they're doing?
Mr Bonds: Well, I've seen what you told them last time, and I suppose I'll just pick up on the comments that have been posted since then. Would that be alright?
Yes, that would be fine.
Mr Bonds: Alright then. First I'll address Cheesepuff, who suggested that I had used the glasses to magnify light and start a fire to burn through the rope which had the weight on one side and a noose around my neck on the other. That was in fact the first idea that occurred to me, but as it so happens I was more interested first in taking care of the rope tying my hands together, thinking that with that gone I wouldn't have much trouble with the other rope. Also it's really difficult to get any rope to start burning that way, so the very first thing I did in my escape was to throw the weight up about 6 feet above me....
Slow down Mr. Bonds, we're not trying to give anything away here!
Mr Bonds: Well, I'll hold up there then, but I do think Cheesepuff deserves at least 5 points for his comments.
I agree, how about the new posts from StalionMang?
Mr Bonds: It is interesting to watch him try and work it out, going through some of the same things I was thinking of as I was planning my escape. But in the end, I decided on a plan that didn't depend on the weight of the snake..
What about all this supposition that you simply jumped through the air, either from the platform or from the trukey cage?
Mr Bonds: Now that would have been quite a feat wouldn't have it? Being that I get into these sorts of situations somewhat routinely, I've done a small amount of research into terminal velocity, or the maximum speed an object can reach during a fall.
And what have you learned?
Mr Bonds: First off the equation depends on the exact shape of the falling object as well as it's weight. The technique for a person to reach the greatest terminal velocity when falling seems to be to fall feet first with your arms kept tightly together in a straight line above your head, if you can keep from leaning that is. Almost as fast would be falling as a diver, and you can also go pretty fast by just curling up into a ball.
So how about it, do you achieve a speed of greater than 200 mph when you fall?
Mr Bonds: Well it would take about 9 seconds to reach terminal velocity, and about 3 seconds to reach half of that. I would estimate that if I had dove from the turkey cage, I'd probably fall about 7 or 8 seconds before reaching the blade, and maybe 5 seconds if I dove from the platform. According to wikipedia, terminal velocity of a parachuter travelling feet first with his arms closed around him is right about 200 mph. I believe their source may have been http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/math.html which calculated this for a 170 lb man. I as you already know, weigh 160 lbs.
Still that's awfully close.
Mr. Bonds: Yes it is. But keep in mind that I've got to move the length of my body, (roughly 6 feet), while it's spinning at 200 mph around the diameter of the pole, which is only 3 feet. And then there's the little problem of having only 15 feet of water to land in, and somehow not knocking myself out or landing on and angering a crocodile in the process. In the end, I found another way that seemed a little less like certain death.
Well I guess we'll see if the puzzlers here can also find another way. Any last thoughts before we let you go and let the puzzlers get back to trying to solve this?
Mr Bonds: I guess I'll just remind people to keep looking for a way in which I may have dealt with the water pressure holding the door closed. Also, as experienced puzzlers I'm sure they know to think about the order in which I had to do things.
I'm sure they do. Well thanks for coming by and helping us Mr. Bonds. And thanks to all the puzzlers who are working hard to help us figure out just how the heck you got out of that mess.
Mr. Bonds: My pleasure.
See you in a few more days, or when someone solves the puzzle.
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #14 on: Jan 21st, 2008, 6:02pm » |
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Okay, I'll think about this more tomorrow, but one thing I think I can conclude at this point is that he ends up balancing things out so that the weight that he threw upwards ends up settling directly in the path of the blade so that the blade is stopped by the weight.
More tomorrow.....
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Re: Foiled Again!
« Reply #15 on: Jan 22nd, 2008, 6:52pm » |
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there is no way a snake can be 300ft long, and even if he is, he wouldn't be 195lbs
Anyway, I think the next step is to figure out how to turn off the spinning blade and pole, which is on the OTHER side of the blade
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So, if I help you, I'll get kicked for ksing, but if I don't, then I'll get kick for not helping...
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