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Heart Failure
« on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:13pm » |
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The Chief cardiologist at a large hospital is diagnosed with a failing heart valve and will require a replacement valve. His assistant, a very competent heart surgeon in his own right, is to perform the operation at the request of the Chief.
Now a couple of people at the department know that his assistant very ambitious and unscrupulous and that this surgery would be a perfect opportunity to surreptitiously eliminate the person between him and the top job at the Cardiology department. They bring this up to the Chief who would have none if it. The Chief said that his assistant is the best for the operation and that no surgeons could arrive at their position without a lot of ambition anyways.
So they did two things: One, they filmed the operation from the amphitheatre to record any false move that the assistant would make to cause his patient to die. This is not unusual. many operations are filmed for the teaching Hospital's Medical School. Second, they marked the artificial valve that was to be used so they would know if the assistant tried to switch with a defective one.
Well, it turns out the operation went extremely well. The assistant expertly removed the faulty valve and installed the artificial one (the correct one that was previously marked), stitched it in place with expert precision and dexterity then closed up the patient. No false moves were recorded, there was no bleeding and no tools or foreign substance were left in the patient’s chest cavity.
The patient was doing great after the operation but unfortunately died four days later. The verdict was that he died of heart failure due to the stress of the operation but he actually died as a result of something that his assistant did during the operation that eluded everyone else. Also, he acted alone without the involvement of any other. What did he do?
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #1 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:18pm » |
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Didn't use an anti-coagulant?
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #2 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:21pm » |
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Nope... The records show that the proper medication were prescribed. As well, the nurse confirmed that she admistered the anticoagulants and other medications such as anti-rejection.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #3 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:29pm » |
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The artificial valve was also faulty?  Never trust your assistant. 
Or the stitches, somehow, contracted after few days, sinking like sharp teeth into his heart. 
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #4 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:31pm » |
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Nope, he used a valve that was in good working order. And the stiches were correctly applied. How could he make the stiches cut into the heart after the operation is over? That is a stretch ....
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #5 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:42pm » |
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How about this then: he switched the tapes. 
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #6 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:46pm » |
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nope: the correct video tape of the operation was reviewed to arrive at their conclusions
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #7 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:51pm » |
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He sabotaged the video camera, so it was taping backwards? 
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #8 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:55pm » |
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Nah... The operation was correctly recorded. Whatever the assistant did they could not tell by looking at the tape. They looked at it over and over but nothing was apparent
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #9 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 12:58pm » |
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The assistant replaced his heart before the above operation. So he put a really weak heart in his chest, which could not possibly take the operation well.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #10 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 1:02pm » |
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Nope... Remeber he acted alone. It would be impossible to orchestrate an operation of this complexity to replace a heart surreptitiously without any assistants.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #11 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 1:09pm » |
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He dipped his hands in something before performing the operation?
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #12 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 1:13pm » |
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No.. His hands were aseptic and free of any foreign substance when he operated (other than the operating gloves of course).
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #13 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 1:13pm » |
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Well if there was one camera only, all he had to do was to turn his back to it for a moment, and do his deed, whatever it was.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #14 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 1:19pm » |
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OK I will allow that there is only one camera wich is pointed to the cavity and the assistant. So suppose he could turn his back, what do you suppose he could do that fools the camera afterwards when he is working inside the cavity? Still a stretch...
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #15 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 1:19pm » |
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on Mar 10th, 2007, 12:21pm, denis wrote:| nurse confirmed that she admistered the anticoagulants and other medications such as anti-rejection[/hide]. |
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He put a false vein in his arm before the major operation.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #16 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 1:21pm » |
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No recall I said he died as a result of something he did during the heart surgery. He did not come into contact with the patient before the surgery.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #17 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 2:10pm » |
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Do you have to know a lot about surgery to answer it? If so, you can count me out. 
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #18 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 2:14pm » |
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No...no need to know very much about surgery....
In fact, what he used to cause his delayed death I feel is pretty much common knowledge.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #19 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 2:19pm » |
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btw, one of the guesses (I will not say who) is on the right track.... Since only Ice and WTF provided guesses, I can say its one of you two!
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #20 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 2:33pm » |
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Maverick is a talented pilot, but unpredictable. I am cold as ice – I never make a mistake. I wonder who is on the right track.. 
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #21 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 3:27pm » |
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Was his assistant played by Leonard Nimoy? Of course, in that episode, the crusty old Chief was saved by the crusty detective. It was the nurse who stumbled on the truth who got whacked.
And I wouldn't call the trick in that show common knowledge, either.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #22 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 3:30pm » |
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Icarus got it... While the "trick" itself is not common, after all, its not everyday occurrence you want to kill someone in surgery and make it look like natural death, what he used to do it with is fairly common.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #23 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 3:33pm » |
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on Mar 10th, 2007, 2:33pm, Iceman wrote:| Maverick is a talented pilot, but unpredictable. I am cold as ice – I never make a mistake. I wonder who is on the right track.. |
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As to the answer, I must say I'm not much of a Trekkie. I really don't know what Icarus is talking about.
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Re: Heart Failure
« Reply #24 on: Mar 10th, 2007, 3:37pm » |
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I'm right? And you actually recognized the reference? ??
(By the way - the reference is misleading. L.M. has been known to work in other genres on occasion.)
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