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flamingdragon
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German Spies, I think?
« on: Nov 29th, 2006, 9:56pm » |
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I've been trying to remember lateral thinking puzzles that my geometry teacher told the class back when I was taking geometry, he had a book and gave us one every day, they were good ones. That's a lot of lateral thinking puzzles. Anyways I sorta remember a good one, I think it went like this.
A spy needs to deliver a message to another one, and they develope a way to do it. The first spy walks into a resturaunt, and sits down and takes out a newspaper to read. Minutes later the second spy walks in and sits down. After 15 minutes they both leave. They did not communicate with each other in any way, how was the message delivered?
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #1 on: Nov 29th, 2006, 10:18pm » |
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The newspaper article on the back/front page of what one spy was reading was prevalent to what was to be communicated.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #2 on: Nov 29th, 2006, 10:56pm » |
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 5:23am » |
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on Nov 29th, 2006, 9:56pm, flamingdragon wrote:| They did not communicate with each other in any way, how was the message delivered? |
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This seems a contradictory statement. He could pass him a letter, but that is still communicating.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 7:37am » |
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He didn't pass him a letter. 
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #5 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 10:32am » |
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Did they always sit for 15 minutes? Perhaps the number of minutes sat is the communication. Like 2 minutes = yes, 5 minutes = no, 8 minutes = London, 10 minutes = kill them, etc.
Or perhaps they tapped eachother's feet with morse code.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #6 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 10:51am » |
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It might also be what they eat, or how they eat..
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #7 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 11:04am » |
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 11:04am » |
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on Nov 30th, 2006, 10:32am, TheNumberScott wrote:, 10 minutes = kill them, etc.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #9 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 1:25pm » |
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Well since the first spy has newspaper.. he can either use a slow turning page for 'dash' and fast turning page for 'dot' and use morse code while pretending to read newspaper..
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it is like game theory where he secretly points to a passages in newspaper that is going to reveal about their secret communications...
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #10 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 2:27pm » |
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #11 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 6:31pm » |
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on Nov 30th, 2006, 1:25pm, Sameer wrote:| ... going to reveal about their secret communications... |
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But there aren't any communications. Remember? I'm struggling to find a way for them to get a message to each other without communicating. Maybe they have someone deliver it for them? No, that would still be communicating with each other. Even if they wrote it on the waiter's back and waited for him to walk by, this would still be communication.
I'm frustrated. 
P.S. This is what you wanted, right dragon? 
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #12 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 9:45pm » |
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Exactly.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #13 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 10:15pm » |
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Oh, duh. I feel stupid now so this must be the answer. 
If they both leave after fifteen minutes, they can just talk to each other after they leave the restaurant. The riddle never stated this information must be transferred while they are in the diner.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #14 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 10:47pm » |
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Thats the exact answer I gave! 
It's not the right one however.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #15 on: Nov 30th, 2006, 11:01pm » |
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Hmm, then I'll have to sleep on this one.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #16 on: Dec 1st, 2006, 12:46am » |
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(1) If they "did not communicate with each other in any way" (to quote you), is it true that neither did anything during the meeting that would contribute towards communicating the message?
If the answer to the above is yes...
(2) Did the communicator prepare the message before/after the meeting?
(3) Did the communicant receive the message before/during/after the meeting?
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #17 on: Dec 1st, 2006, 4:55am » |
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They are blinking a lot because they know Morse code.
There were three spies. You do not communicate with an enemy spy. You just kill him.
They left together. This means 'yes'.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #18 on: Dec 1st, 2006, 8:08am » |
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on Dec 1st, 2006, 12:46am, Sir Col wrote:
(1) If they "did not communicate with each other in any way" (to quote you), is it true that neither did anything during the meeting that would contribute towards communicating the message?
yes
(2) Did the communicator prepare the message before/after the meeting?
before
(3) Did the communicant receive the message before/during/after the meeting?
during
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I'd say u pretty much have this riddle solved now.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #19 on: Dec 1st, 2006, 8:32am » |
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Maybe the message is: no message today.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #20 on: Dec 1st, 2006, 8:33am » |
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #21 on: Dec 2nd, 2006, 3:46pm » |
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Anytime now WTF.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #22 on: Dec 2nd, 2006, 5:36pm » |
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Since I've been called out do they order anything while in the restaurant?
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #23 on: Dec 2nd, 2006, 5:45pm » |
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Give us another hint if no one's guessing.
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Re: German Spies, I think?
« Reply #24 on: Dec 2nd, 2006, 9:20pm » |
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NO One orders anthing and somethingIS totally screwer up w? my keyboard ANd mouse so i"ll PODt a hint lafer>
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