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Jake's catholic friend Charles fixed a big cross on his house. They live in a peaceful community where no advertising is allowed, including emphasizing of any symbols, except on private homes. One day his car broke down, and they had to continue on foot. Jake knows a way through an uninhabited, uncultivated plain that can shorten their trip. So as they walk on the plain, and it would take about an hour to cross it, Charles asks Jake to lend him some money, so that he could fix another cross on his house. Jake says to him that he is crazy, but then he says, and in a cynical way: 'Tell you what: regarding Christians, visions and apparitions, in the next half an hour, if you see a cross, which is bigger than the one on your house, I will lend you the money.' Charles says: 'You shouldn't test God, who can show me this cross, regardless of your skepticism.' What happened in the next half an hour is that Jake lent him the money. Why?
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #1 on: Oct 11th, 2006, 6:05am » |
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I would guess the Aneristic Principle strikes again.. i.e. the illusion of apparant order. Be it in clouds, or perhaps 4 or 5 stars in roughly the right position. If you want to find a pattern, there's a good chance you will.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #2 on: Oct 11th, 2006, 6:59am » |
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Charles took his big cross down the house and replaced it by a tiny cross.
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Charles is black. He took his cell phone and just said "I f*ck the KKK". By the time they arrived at his house, a huuuuge cross was burning in the garden.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #3 on: Oct 11th, 2006, 2:47pm » |
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Southern Cross
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #4 on: Oct 11th, 2006, 3:33pm » |
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They cross the field?
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #5 on: Oct 11th, 2006, 4:24pm » |
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Is there trickery in words that mean "cross" as in christian's cross... "cross" as in cross the field... "cross" as in a cross on the valley?
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #6 on: Oct 22nd, 2006, 6:20am » |
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on Oct 11th, 2006, 6:05am, towr wrote:| I would guess the Aneristic Principle strikes again.. i.e. the illusion of apparant order. Be it in clouds, or perhaps 4 or 5 stars in roughly the right position. If you want to find a pattern, there's a good chance you will. |
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Charles doesn't have a beautiful mind to see this constellation. But just in case you come up with a counterargument, I say it was daytime. As for clouds, I don't think so. 
No to Grimbal and graphia.
on Oct 11th, 2006, 3:33pm, cchris wrote:
Negative.
on Oct 11th, 2006, 4:24pm, Sameer wrote:| Is there trickery in words that mean "cross" as in christian's cross... "cross" as in cross the field... "cross" as in a cross on the valley? |
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Does this mean anything particular? But to answer your query, Charles has a Latin cross on his house. But there is no need to split hairs here, as a Greek cross would do just as well.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #7 on: Oct 22nd, 2006, 6:23am » |
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| hidden: | | It doesn't say where the car broke down: It could have broken down near a cathedral with a rather large cross on top. |
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #8 on: Oct 22nd, 2006, 7:45am » |
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He could head towards the nearest intersection.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #9 on: Oct 22nd, 2006, 7:50am » |
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Or, can they see the cross on the barn from where they are standing?
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #10 on: Oct 22nd, 2006, 12:26pm » |
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on Oct 22nd, 2006, 6:20am, Iceman wrote:
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Aw, man! I liked graphia's answer. Sure you won't reconsider?
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #11 on: Oct 24th, 2006, 6:49am » |
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on Oct 22nd, 2006, 6:23am, sofeffi wrote:| hidden: | | It doesn't say where the car broke down: It could have broken down near a cathedral with a rather large cross on top. |
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There are no buildings in the vicinity.
on Oct 22nd, 2006, 7:45am, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:| He could head towards the nearest intersection. |
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No intersection either.
on Oct 22nd, 2006, 7:50am, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:| Or, can they see the cross on the barn from where they are standing? |
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No.
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Give me 200$ and I'll reconsider.  But if it makes you happy, his solution could work at night. The only problem with it might be the size of this cross, since I never saw it myself. I think it can be seen only from Australia or Southern America. Another thing is that you have to visualize this cross in your mind. So what we need is a solution that works at day.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #12 on: Oct 24th, 2006, 4:42pm » |
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The Southern Cross is many light-years in size, so I assure you that it will be far bigger than any cross located on Earth.
What kind of an alien never looked at the stars while flying his ship? It's no wonder you crashed here!
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #13 on: Oct 25th, 2006, 2:06am » |
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Does perspective count for anything?
The cross on his house may look tiny from far away, so if he holds up a small cross (he may have a cross on his necklace) it could look bigger.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #14 on: Oct 25th, 2006, 10:56am » |
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No. He can't see the cross on his house from here.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #15 on: Oct 25th, 2006, 4:45pm » |
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The plain is where Jesus was crucified?
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #16 on: Oct 26th, 2006, 8:52am » |
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She wasn't crucified on a plain.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #17 on: Oct 26th, 2006, 2:24pm » |
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| hidden: | | it is sunset, and the setting sun causes the cross to cast a huge shadow over the entire field. |
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #18 on: Oct 26th, 2006, 2:26pm » |
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I feel that's right.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #19 on: Oct 26th, 2006, 6:56pm » |
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But the cross is on the side of a house. How can it possibly cast a shadow onto the field? Some other object might cast a large shadow, though.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #20 on: Oct 26th, 2006, 7:30pm » |
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Can't he just pick up a stick a draw a large cross?
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #21 on: Oct 27th, 2006, 8:28am » |
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No winner yet.
on Oct 26th, 2006, 6:56pm, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:| Some other object might cast a large shadow, though. |
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That's not it either.
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #22 on: Nov 4th, 2006, 7:44am » |
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I like this riddle. It is a shame to left it unsolved.  Give it another try. 
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #23 on: Nov 4th, 2006, 9:20am » |
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telephone pole?
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Re: Apparition
« Reply #24 on: Nov 4th, 2006, 9:43am » |
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No poles either.
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