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Alien's Hellraiser: Twists of Friendship
« on: Sep 27th, 2006, 2:24pm » |
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I hope no-one minds me starting a new thread.
Alien gave us three puzzles under the original thread. As this has rambled, I thought I’d summarise the story so far. I’ve not hidden suggested answers (apart from the accepted solution to #1), so don’t read this if you want to try the problems on your own. Still no solutions to #2 and #3.
Below, I quote each problem in turn, then paraphrase all the suggested answers that I could make sense of. I’ve also paraphrased Alien’s comments (in orange) where they give possible clues. From Alien’s responses, I infer that all suggestions so far are wrong, apart from the accepted answer for #1.
For future reference, can someone provide a link to the original thread?
1. John and Mark are relaxing in a pub, playing cards on the table positioned against the wall. John finished his whisky, and Mark almost finished his drink, that is, there is still a finger of water in his glass. He probably ordered just water because of his loans to John, or maybe because of house of cards he started building just now. But John asks Mark to lend him 500$ again. Mark says: 'What is the least number of these playing cards needed to reach the height of 40 centimeters starting from the top of the table? You may use items on the table, and if you answer correctly, I will lend you the money.'
None – just raise hand
Use water as measure (?)
1 card – on a pile of other things Playing cards must reach that height
5 cards (8.5cm long each) taped or balanced
Cut cards and slot together, or tear a card No damage allowed
Fill room with water and cards float
Bend cards and stack up to 40cm
Wet the cards and stick them together (put them in the freezer?) and lean against wall ]accept this answer
2. Mark and John are playing soccer. Mark says: 'It is about to rain heavy, and a few raindrops have already fallen. You have a date with a fair woman, and you don't want to be late and bedraggled because you want to propose her. She awaits you in the restaurant, which is 200 meters distant from the parking lot where you parked your car, sitting at the table in front of it, under the awning. The trucker, a friend of yours who owes you a favor from before, parked his truck near your car, which is transporting a variety of balls. He says that you can choose a ball, which will be subtracted from his salary, as a way of saying thanks. If it is understood that any ball you think of can be found in this truck, so can you improve your chances of proposal?'
They’re at a stadium and he presents her the game ball
A silicon implant (testicle?); the “balls” to propose No sexual connotations. He has already decided to propose, just wants to improve chances
Ball is a diamond, pearl necklace or ring (?) Already have diamond ring
Roll ball to trigger, say, fireworks
Get truck driver to drive you to lady
Ask for “Grimball” who can solve the problem
Ball to be thrown to lady with message on it
Give her a globe and say “marry me, you’ll have the whole world…”
No play on words – just use imagination
3. They stumble on each other in a shoe store. Mark senses John wants to ask him about the money because he is fidgeting, so he says: 'How could a person who has a shoe size 10 wear and walk in size 15 without discomfort and complaint?'
Padding or lots of socks no, just socks
Men’s size 10 = women’s size 15
Size 15 is in inches
Size 15 dress, pants, socks No, shoes
One foot size 10, other 15
Slippers, skis, ballet shoes, flip-flops, snow shoes No, same type of shoe
Size 15 in different country, different brands
No legs so can’t walk, has prosthetic feet No, he’s a sprinter
Read question as “has a shoe, size 10, …” ie they own size 10 but they are now size 15
Wear size 10 inside size 15 not comfortable
He’s a clown
He’s “wearing” the shoes out, ie distressing the shoes to make them look old
Wear shoes on hands
He owns no shoes, so won’t complain at the size But still in discomfort
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Re: Alien's Hellraiser: Twists of Friendship
« Reply #1 on: Sep 27th, 2006, 2:31pm » |
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On 2, is the idea that he does something to keep the rain off, eg one of those giant balls that you can climb inside?
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Re: Alien's Hellraiser: Twists of Friendship
« Reply #2 on: Sep 27th, 2006, 3:10pm » |
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#2 would be a zorb ball then?
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 28th, 2006, 1:04am » |
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OK, some new ideas
#2 she is a pokemon
#3 walk on the hands
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Re: Alien's Hellraiser: Twists of Friendship
« Reply #4 on: Sep 28th, 2006, 7:50am » |
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A ball as in a dance?
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Re: Alien's Hellraiser: Twists of Friendship
« Reply #5 on: Sep 28th, 2006, 9:49am » |
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on Sep 27th, 2006, 3:10pm, graphia wrote:| #2 would be a zorb ball then? |
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Ah, yes, zorbing - it all comes back to me now.
Alien, where are you? Please help us!
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 29th, 2006, 5:01am » |
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on Sep 27th, 2006, 2:31pm, Miles wrote:| On 2, is the idea that he does something to keep the rain off, eg one of those giant balls that you can climb inside? |
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You got it. It is transparent too. I think I saw this ball when circus was in town. 
on Sep 27th, 2006, 2:24pm, Miles wrote:| Wet the cards and stick them together (put them in the freezer?) and lean against wall ]accept this answer |
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This can be done without the freezer.
on Sep 27th, 2006, 2:24pm, Miles wrote:Read question as “has a shoe, size 10, …” ie they own size 10 but they are now size 15
He’s “wearing” the shoes out, ie distressing the shoes to make them look old
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I don't get this. What exactly is the point?
on Sep 27th, 2006, 2:24pm, Miles wrote:| No legs so can’t walk, has prosthetic feet No, he’s a sprinter |
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When I said he is a sprinter, I just wanted to say that he is not an invalid. That was all.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 29th, 2006, 5:38am » |
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I like to walk around the store when I'm trying on shoes.
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Re: Alien's Hellraiser: Twists of Friendship
« Reply #8 on: Sep 29th, 2006, 8:52am » |
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on Sep 29th, 2006, 5:01am, alien wrote:| I think I saw this ball when circus was in town |
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Think you can steal it for me next time? Sounds like a blast.
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 29th, 2006, 11:08am » |
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To teleport the ball on to my saucer is not a problem, but this ball is fun. You will get one only if I have two.
on Sep 29th, 2006, 5:38am, Desert Lizard wrote:| I like to walk around the store when I'm trying on shoes. |
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That's not it either.
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 1st, 2006, 3:57am » |
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So zorbing is correct for 2?
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 1st, 2006, 8:06am » |
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Thanks for the link, had no idea what 'zorbing' was.
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 1st, 2006, 8:19am » |
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Me neither. 
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 1st, 2006, 4:15pm » |
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Me three
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« Reply #14 on: Oct 2nd, 2006, 11:01am » |
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on Sep 29th, 2006, 5:01am, alien wrote:
You got it. It is transparent too. I think I saw this ball when circus was in town.
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did you get your idea just from the circus or watching this movie Ball? 
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« Reply #15 on: Oct 2nd, 2006, 12:40pm » |
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Neither, really. But I remember it was raining so hard, it was really coming down.. sittin' by my window, watchin the rain fall to the ground.. this is the time I love to be holding you tight (not you Sameer!), I guess I'll just go crazy tonight..
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« Reply #16 on: Oct 10th, 2006, 12:10pm » |
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..............I can't think of a hint, which doesn't reveal too much. Let me just say, regarding the shoes riddle, the answer looks quite logical and simple to me, because I know it. But of course, the way riddle is worded, certainly belongs to the category of my little tricks.. 
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« Reply #17 on: Oct 10th, 2006, 2:50pm » |
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well you said "how can he wear and walk".. so on the how part - he pads the remaining space with some soft material, so it won't be discomfortable and then it would be perfect fit...
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« Reply #18 on: Oct 10th, 2006, 3:31pm » |
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That wouldn't be perfect fit.
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« Reply #19 on: Oct 10th, 2006, 3:45pm » |
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I have a size 10 shoe. It's not the size I wear now that I'm older, but I still have a size 10 shoe. That's not the answer.
Or maybe they couldn't...
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« Reply #20 on: Oct 10th, 2006, 4:11pm » |
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ok I think I got it now...
The person is wearing his shoe size 10, so he is walking comfortably, but in aisle that contains size 15 shoes
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« Reply #21 on: Oct 11th, 2006, 3:32pm » |
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Just to clarify, I was being the rebel and saying that there isn't a way to do it.
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« Reply #22 on: Oct 22nd, 2006, 6:23am » |
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There is a way to do it. If you want to catch a lighting bug, you got to slow down, be patient, and they might come to you. This I heard in a movie, but I'm not sure about the name of this bug. I guess it is a firefly or a glow-worm. So slow down, let the answer come to you..
on Oct 10th, 2006, 4:11pm, Sameer wrote:ok I think I got it now...
The person is wearing his shoe size 10, so he is walking comfortably, but in aisle that contains size 15 shoes |
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Not sure what you meant by aisle. The only aisle I heard of is the one in a church.
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« Reply #23 on: Oct 22nd, 2006, 6:26am » |
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| hidden: | | he might 'have' a shoe size of 10 at home, but it doesn't fit. |
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Re: Alien's Hellraiser: Twists of Friendship
« Reply #24 on: Oct 22nd, 2006, 12:30pm » |
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on Oct 22nd, 2006, 6:23am, Iceman wrote:
Not sure what you meant by aisle. The only aisle I heard of is the one in a church.
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Any walk way in a building between areas not used for passage is called an "aisle". This includes the paths between the shelves in a store. So Sameer is suggesting that the guy is wearing his size 10 shoes, but is walking between shelves of size 15 shoes.
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