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1. Tom, who is in topnotch health, gets out of the swimming pool, trips and falls on soft mattress and dies. What happened?
2. Two hitchhikers, traveling without any gear, took a shelter from bad weather in an abandoned, entirely empty house, so they had to sleep on the floor. Since they like little games, before they call it a night, one says: 'How about a bet? Since I am an early riser, unlike you, I will write with a felt pen I happen to have on me, a big bold letter 'A', about 20 cm high, on a hard surface. You should look for it inside the house, since that is where it will be. You have half an hour to find it when you wake up. While you are looking, I will wait for you outside, so I don't get in the way. Who loses, buys lunch.' His pal agrees, and tomorrow he had to buy lunch. Why?
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #1 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 10:49am » |
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1. Tom was trying to solve Alien's riddle and after so many futile attempts decided it was not worth living 
2. The water was leaking and it wiped out the marking by the time second person woke up. OR he used the same colored felt pen as the color of the wall
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #2 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 10:51am » |
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1) Heart attack. It can always happen 
Or, Tom is a president and his bodyguards did a lousy job.
2) The pen was the same colour as the wall.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #3 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 12:51pm » |
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1. The soft madras was actually a traphole that I fell into in which Japanese Ninjas came and attacked me. After fending off over a million ninja, I was finally severely injured and died from blood loss.
2. He didn't draw anything. Or he drew it on the guy's back.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #4 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 6:58pm » |
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1. | hidden: | | Maybe his entire body didn't land on the madras, as maybe his head hit the not as soft concrete around the pool |
2.| hidden: | | The guy who drew the A had no money? |
or | hidden: | | They were hiking to a lake. Before they began their hike, they agreed who would pay for the boat (launch) they would use, and said that person had to pay, no matter what. The guy who found the A had misunderstood the bet and thought the loser was supposed to buy lunch. |
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #5 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 12:45am » |
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I was gonna say what Tom said, about writing it on his back. Oh well.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #6 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 6:39am » |
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Quote:| 1. Tom was trying to solve Alien's riddle and after so many futile attempts decided it was not worth living |
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I like this answer even though it is not correct. Keep guessing though.
Quote:| 2. The water was leaking and it wiped out the marking by the time second person woke up. OR he used the same colored felt pen as the color of the wall |
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This certainly plausible, but the letter must be visible, not invisible. So the felt pen, which has waterproof ink, is different color from the walls, and it couldn't blend it. For a moment there I forgot that I am just another riddler on this forum.  Quote:1) Heart attack. It can always happen
Or, Tom is a president and his bodyguards did a lousy job. |
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No. He is in perfect health. About the latter, do you mean sniper riffle?
Quote:| 1. The soft madras was actually a traphole that I fell into in which Japanese Ninjas came and attacked me. After fending off over a million ninja, I was finally severely injured and died from blood loss. |
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No trap hole either.
Quote:| 2. He didn't draw anything. Or he drew it on the guy's back. |
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He did draw it. The latter is not good enough because his back is not hard surface.
Quote:| Maybe his entire body didn't land on the madras, as maybe his head hit the not as soft concrete around the pool |
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That's not it either. He fell on the mattress.
Quote:| The guy who drew the A had no money? |
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Not bad, but even if this were the case, they are friendly so he would have to buy lunch some other time.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #7 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 7:09am » |
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1. Tom had a seizure from the colors on the madras.
2. He wrote the A on the bottom of his friends shoe.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #8 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 9:49am » |
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Perhaps he writes the A where it is only sunny when he is awake, early. By the time the other guy wakes up, the A will be in the dark, where he can't see it.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #9 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 10:04am » |
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1) A lightning stroke him. Plus, he was wet. Zap. 
2) They were in some kind of shelter whose walls punky kids use as a surface for their masterpieces. So maybe the walls were already filled with, among other things, anarchy symbols and that guy's A perfectly blended in?
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #10 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 11:54am » |
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1.) There was a rock under the madras, he hit his head on it?
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #11 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 2:51pm » |
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what is launch, anyways? i am hungry for lunch
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #12 on: Sep 17th, 2006, 5:22am » |
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on Sep 16th, 2006, 7:09am, TomC588 wrote:| 1. Tom had a seizure from the colors on the madras. |
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No. He has daltonism.
on Sep 16th, 2006, 7:09am, TomC588 wrote:| 2. He wrote the A on the bottom of his friends shoe. |
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That's right. He wrote it on his friend's sole. You should see the look on his face when he got out, and his buddy told him that he thinks he stepped into something.
on Sep 16th, 2006, 9:49am, cchris wrote:| Perhaps he writes the A where it is only sunny when he is awake, early. By the time the other guy wakes up, the A will be in the dark, where he can't see it. |
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Not bad, but it is early afternoon when he wakes up.
on Sep 16th, 2006, 10:04am, DeMark wrote:| 1) A lightning stroke him. Plus, he was wet. Zap. |
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I don't think mattresses attract lightings. But I still don't fully get why trees do.
on Sep 16th, 2006, 10:04am, DeMark wrote:| 2) They were in some kind of shelter whose walls punky kids use as a surface for their masterpieces. So maybe the walls were already filled with, among other things, anarchy symbols and that guy's A perfectly blended in? |
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No gratifies.
on Sep 16th, 2006, 11:54am, cchris wrote:| 1.) There was a rock under the madras, he hit his head on it? |
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No rocks under the mattress either.
on Sep 16th, 2006, 2:51pm, Sameer wrote:| what is launch, anyways? i am hungry for lunch |
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Typo. I corrected it.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #13 on: Sep 17th, 2006, 7:04am » |
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Since Sameer brought up the matter of typos, I might as well ask; can I assume you meant mattress ("A usually rectangular pad of heavy cloth filled with soft material, used as or on a bed" ), and not madras ("A cotton cloth of fine texture") ?
Mind you, it took me four bloody attempts to find out how to spell "mattress"; and every variations seems to mean something.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #14 on: Sep 17th, 2006, 8:19am » |
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I meant mattress. I corrected the riddle accordingly.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #15 on: Sep 17th, 2006, 9:40pm » |
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After reading a Far Side comic, I propose this solution.
| hidden: | | Tom was swimming in the pool on the top floor of his penthouse suite. When he gets out of the pool, he trips, falls off the building, and plummets some uncertain hight to the ground. In a funny twist of fate, a truck is unloading mattresses for a nearby mattress store at exactly the same time and Tom lands directly on top of one of these mattresses. However, these are not any kind of special, NASA designed mattresses which are commonly advertised on TV, so in another funny twist of fate, the height of his fall is so great that a single mattress could never prevent him from being harmed. He dies. |
Just seems very Far Side-esque.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #16 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 10:21am » |
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The mattress is a waterbed?
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #17 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 3:05pm » |
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Lol at all the spelling of mattresses . Ok maybe it was a spring mattress and as Tom falls on it the loose spring comes out and "launches" into his stomach killing him ...
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #18 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 3:31pm » |
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It wasn't the spring mattress or waterbed.
on Sep 17th, 2006, 9:40pm, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:After reading a Far Side comic, I propose this solution.
| hidden: | | Tom was swimming in the pool on the top floor of his penthouse suite. When he gets out of the pool, he trips, falls off the building, and plummets some uncertain hight to the ground. In a funny twist of fate, a truck is unloading mattresses for a nearby mattress store at exactly the same time and Tom lands directly on top of one of these mattresses. However, these are not any kind of special, NASA designed mattresses which are commonly advertised on TV, so in another funny twist of fate, the height of his fall is so great that a single mattress could never prevent him from being harmed. He dies. |
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That's right.  The mattress was on the rack of a car.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #19 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 8:38pm » |
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Always trust Far Side to provide you with the answers to riddles. That's a free life lesson to all you young 'uns.
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« Reply #20 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 9:10pm » |
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But don't trust Doonesbury. The author fell for the scam that Bill Clinton had twice the IQ of G.W. Bush. Idiot.
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« Reply #21 on: Sep 19th, 2006, 7:56am » |
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The riddle is over, and maybe it should stay that way, but I remembered my initiations into riddles about three years ago.. This riddle sounds to me like a typical what happened riddle, right or wrong? I remember reading about lateral thinking puzzles, and what constitutes a good approach for riddles. So the main thing is, four things should be considered, that is, time, place, and two more, which I cannot remember right now. So in this riddle location should be considered, so you ask yourself, what is the mattress, which shouldn't be wet, doing near the swimming pool? It is plausible, but why would a mattress ever be near the swimming pool, and so the journey of the mind begins.. End it ends, of course, on the mattress that was nowhere near the swimming pool in the first place. It just sounded like it was near. But this is all right, because mattresses tend to go inside of skyscrapers. That is what I like about bedrooms - you can almost always find a bed in there.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #22 on: Sep 19th, 2006, 9:45am » |
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on Sep 19th, 2006, 7:56am, alien wrote:
so you ask yourself, what is the mattress, which shouldn't be wet, doing near the swimming pool? It is plausible, but why would a mattress ever be near the swimming pool, and so the journey of the mind begins.. [/hide] |
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Then again in lateral thinking besides plausible answers even the funny ones are good... lateral is to expand the horizons of your mind and to think which may or may not be possible.. if you saw the first episode of star trek TNG, that's what Q would have told Piccard. Man, that's my second star trek reference in this forum. Being an alien you should know this already, right? and besides these kind of bizarre things always seem to happen in "alien" worlds... 
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #23 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 8:39am » |
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1. He is alergic to latex.
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The swimming pool is at the top of the cliff, the matress is at the bottom.
2. He said he is an early-riser, right? So he went up at 3:00 when it was still pitch dark and wrote the letter anywhere on the wall. Then he yells and "accidentally" wakes his friend. Now the friend has 1/2 hour to find the letter in the dark.
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Re: Hellraiser II: riddlebound
« Reply #24 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 10:11am » |
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Good, except alien said it was early afternoon when he wakes up.
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