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« on: Dec 12th, 2005, 3:51pm »
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John asked his friend Mark yesterday to lend him $1000, but Mark didn't give him the straight answer right away. So they are in the bar, sipping brandy, and John makes a joke on Mark's expense because he likes SF movies. He says that yesterday he saw a flying saucer, and that after this he noticed a change on him, in that he broke two Glen Edward bottles by thought. Mark says: 'Well, my telekinetic friend, since you have broken those bottles like that, then you can easily break one bottle of brandy, right? So if you can tell me how could you break the bottle in fair spring conditions like today, which you do not manipulate in any way, but without touching the bottle with anything that could break it, and without telekinesis, I will lend you the money.' What answer can John think of so that Mark lends him the money?
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 12th, 2005, 3:59pm »
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You seemed to have neglected to exclude dropping it
 
So what, this makes $3000 for John so far? He's sure spending a lot, or is he saving for a car?
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 12th, 2005, 4:14pm »
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Could you create a vacuum around it (while the cork is still in it).  
 
Or, heat it so it it hot (not hot enough to break it because that is against the rules).  
Then, cool it quickly (not cold enough to break it, because that is against the rules).  
 
Then, the change in temperature causes it to break. Not the heat or the cold, but the change. OK, a little iffy, but I think there is a difference.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 12th, 2005, 4:26pm »
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on Dec 12th, 2005, 3:59pm, towr wrote:
So what, this makes $3000 for John so far? He's sure spending a lot, or is he saving for a car?

He is a compulsive gambler. Let this be a lesson to you all: dice is a disease. It is worse than alcohol. I mean, look at John. Look at him for crying out loud! And don't lend him any money.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 12th, 2005, 8:29pm »
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Could you use someone else's hand, arm, foot, head ?  
 
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 13th, 2005, 2:28am »
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on Dec 12th, 2005, 4:26pm, alien wrote:
Hitting it, dropping it, what's the difference? No need to split hairs here,
The difference is you don't have to touch it to drop it, just pull the table rug out from under it.. Or the table. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 13th, 2005, 3:18am »
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He just convinces one of the other guests to break the bottle for him, in exchange for, say $100.
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 13th, 2005, 3:28pm »
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Can you add energy to it in other ways? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 13th, 2005, 3:59pm »
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on Dec 13th, 2005, 3:20pm, alien wrote:
That is not allowed, as stated in the riddle, so read it again. I'm not kidding.

This riddle is changing more rapidly than its shadow ...
 
Maybe the answer is simply "he can't" so he should look for a real friend to lend him some money?
 
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 13th, 2005, 4:52pm »
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Well he can tell you HOW to break the bottle without heating hitting ect, he just says "Hit it with a hammer."
He doesnt do anything to the bottle but explain the easiest way to break it.  
Well I can see any other solution with the way the question is worded.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 13th, 2005, 5:59pm »
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This is easy.  
 
Place a box over the top of the bottle. You do not need to touch it or move it in any way.  
 
Then, explain to your friend about Schroedinger's theory of indeterminateness.  
 
So, you say the bottle is both broken and not broken. Therefore, you have caused the bottle to be in a broken state.  
 
Do not allow your friend to look in the box, because that would cause the bottle to return to a determinate state (either broken or unbroken).  
 
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The cat is in the box too, so it might or might not break the bottle. If you need something to cause the bottle to break.
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 13th, 2005, 8:33pm »
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Stand by, because this riddle is about to reach its final form, as for revisions considered. So give me a day to think it through and do not criticize like old hens, because this riddle is not bad in comparison to some of my other riddles from Mars.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 13th, 2005, 9:46pm »
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I must have the correct answer. Because not only is  the bottle both broken and unbroken (according to quantum physics and Schroedinger's cat), but the riddle is also in a state of indeterminateness.  
 
The riddle itself is indeterminate. It is both finished and unfinished, it is both solved and unsolved, it is now in a closed box with Alien and he is both finishing it and not finishing it.  
 
Knock, knock, knock. Hello Alien, can you hear me? Sorry, just can't resist being an ancient Gallus gallus.
 
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Personally, Alien, I think your Mars riddles are pretty good.
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 14th, 2005, 12:17am »
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While standing by I'm throwing my guess into the ring. Drop the bottle in the ocean and it sinks until it reaches a depth where the pressure crushes it.
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 14th, 2005, 1:06am »
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You're not allowed to drop it though..
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« Reply #15 on: Dec 14th, 2005, 6:31am »
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FINALIZED
 
 
 
on Dec 13th, 2005, 9:46pm, Speaker wrote:
Personally, Alien, I think your Mars riddles are pretty good.

Thanks.  Smiley
 
 
 
on Dec 14th, 2005, 12:17am, ChunkTug wrote:
While standing by I'm throwing my guess into the ring. Drop the bottle in the ocean and it sinks until it reaches a depth where the pressure crushes it.

Yep.
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