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« on: Apr 24th, 2005, 9:15am »
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John and Mark, friends from the Always Coca-Cola riddle, are chatting at Mark's. John is thirsty but Mark has nothing except milk in his refrigerator, so he brings him a glass of milk. John asks Mark to borrow him $3000 again. Mark says: "If you can tell me how one can make a small hourglass that has milk instead of sand and where it takes more than 5 minutes for milk to pass from one bulb to the other, I will lend you the money". John comes up with the solution again, and Mark lends him the money. What was his solution?
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 27th, 2005, 8:53am »
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freeze and grind the milk ?
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 2:30am »
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You do freeze the milk, but there is really no need to grind it: just put the hourglass in the freezer and then take it out on the room temperature when milk in the bulb freezes.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 3:03am »
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But then it won't run. In fact unless you do it grimbals way, it is most unlikely to run. In which case it isn't really an hour glass.
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 3:21am »
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It should "run" once the milk melts...
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 4:03am »
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BNC is correct. Frozen milk will melt and slowly pass to the other bulb.  
 
Of course, a hourglass that has milk instead of sand sucks and anybody who makes it is either crazy or testing the solution for this riddle. All in all, I could've said something like two joined bulbs with a narrow passage between them but instead of such description I just said hourglass. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 4:07am »
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No, because the air will be trapped, and can't get past the milk. No better than it could with water. The hole connecting the two bulbs is too small. With a grainy material the air can escape to the top bulb between the grains, but with liquids that won't work. You'll either need a much bigger hole (which doesn't provide reliable timing), or two openings at different heights (but that deviates much more from a standard hour glass).
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 4:35am »
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Check out the big brain on towr! Shocked
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 4:54am »
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something like this might work
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 8:48am »
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I'm not so sure it wouldn't work... at least for a while.
Since the milk freeze while on the bottom of the bottom part, when turned over, it will be on the top of the top part. Hence, it will drip down. Won't a single drop fall to the bottom?
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 28th, 2005, 10:06am »
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I'm pretty sure in most cases a single drop will already clog the hole. Also because both bulbs are isolated from the rest of the world, air can't go out through any other way than through the connection to the other bulb.
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 12:03pm »
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What iff there is vaccum in the hour glass - in that case i guess the milk drops will collect on the lower bulb.
 
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 11th, 2005, 10:03am »
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can't you just alot of milk, with a small hole, so it takes sooo long to get through?
 
sorry, i'm tired  Embarassed
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 12th, 2005, 8:58am »
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on Jun 10th, 2005, 12:03pm, ankur wrote:
What iff there is vaccum in the hour glass - in that case i guess the milk drops will collect on the lower bulb.
Ignoring evaporation (which makes a good vacuum impossible) that's a very good observation. I should have thought of that Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 1:25am »
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Well, towr, I agree with what you are saying, but...my deux sense.  
 
You do not need to freeze the milk. Just use the powdered milk that is used for the baby's bottle.  
 
You could freeze a small quantity of milk in the top half of the hour glass. Then take it out of the freezer and turn it over. Now, it will take a certain amount of time (5 minutes right) for the milk to melt and run down the sides of the hour glass. (It does not go through the tiny hole. The time measured is just the time to melt the milk.)  
 
You could put a small amount of milk in the bottom half, then heat the milk. The vapor then rises to the top. When the bottom half is dry (but before it breaks from the heat) five minutes have passed. (This might be impossible, but that never stopped me from putting something forth as an answer. It is similar to small coffer percolators.)
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« Reply #15 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 2:25am »
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on Jun 13th, 2005, 1:25am, Speaker wrote:
You do not need to freeze the milk. Just use the powdered milk that is used for the baby's bottle.
Isn't powdered milk freeze-dried? So it still needs to have been frozen Grin
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 9:40pm »
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Is it freeze driedHuh? I think it is lyophilized.  But, that depends on who supplies your baby formula. Me, all my powdered milk comes from Peruvian Llamas.   Wink
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