wu :: forums
« wu :: forums - Integral Solutions »

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 24th, 2024, 1:00pm

RIDDLES SITE WRITE MATH! Home Home Help Help Search Search Members Members Login Login Register Register
   wu :: forums
   riddles
   putnam exam (pure math)
(Moderators: towr, Eigenray, Grimbal, Icarus, william wu, SMQ)
   Integral Solutions
« Previous topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: Integral Solutions  (Read 1383 times)
l4z3r
Newbie
*





   


Posts: 10
Integral Solutions  
« on: Aug 29th, 2008, 4:46am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

a function is defined as:
 
 
                                      f: Z(+)  -->  Z
 
                                      f(m,n) =  (n3 + 1)/ (mn - 1)
 
 
where Z(+) denotes the set of positive integers and Z the set of integers.
 
Find all the solutions for (m,n)
 
EDIT: f(m,n) not f(x)
« Last Edit: Aug 29th, 2008, 5:42am by l4z3r » IP Logged
towr
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****



Some people are average, some are just mean.

   


Gender: male
Posts: 13730
Re: Integral Solutions  
« Reply #1 on: Aug 29th, 2008, 5:23am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Shouldn't the x in f(x) come into it somewhere?
IP Logged

Wikipedia, Google, Mathworld, Integer sequence DB
l4z3r
Newbie
*





   


Posts: 10
Re: Integral Solutions  
« Reply #2 on: Aug 29th, 2008, 5:42am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

ah. meant f(m,n). sorry.
IP Logged
SMQ
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****






   


Gender: male
Posts: 2084
Re: Integral Solutions  
« Reply #3 on: Aug 29th, 2008, 5:58am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

So, in other words, "find all , such that ( + 1) / ( - 1) ", right?
 
--SMQ
IP Logged

--SMQ

l4z3r
Newbie
*





   


Posts: 10
Re: Integral Solutions  
« Reply #4 on: Aug 29th, 2008, 7:00am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

yes. hint:use n3+1   1(mod3) and mn-1   -1 (mod n) (number theory)
IP Logged
Eigenray
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****






   


Gender: male
Posts: 1948
Re: Integral Solutions  
« Reply #5 on: Aug 29th, 2008, 11:53am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

If (m,n) is a solution, then (m, (m2+n)/(mn-1)) is also; then use the ideas that appear here (and which should appear here).
 
Or, you can proceed more directly by writing n3+1 = (mn-1)((an-m)n-1) and bounding.
IP Logged
l4z3r
Newbie
*





   


Posts: 10
Re: Integral Solutions  
« Reply #6 on: Aug 30th, 2008, 5:34am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

hmm. good one. I agree with the first part.
 
If (m,n) is a solution, then (m, (m2+n)/(mn-1)) is also
 
but, instead of (mn-1)((an-m)n-1) i feel a better alternative would be (kn-1)(mn-1). Gives the answer in lesser steps, i think.
IP Logged
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

« Previous topic | Next topic »

Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.4!
Forum software copyright © 2000-2004 Yet another Bulletin Board