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JP05
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Let K,R,N be integers. Prove that 2^(1/2) K^2 - R pi^2 + N = 0 has no solutions.
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JP05
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Correction: Let K,R,N be integers > 0.
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towr
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Re: Integer Polynomial
« Reply #2 on: Aug 10th, 2006, 3:23pm » |
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I have the feeling there's something more missing from the question. Because [sqrt]2/pi2 isn't rational, which is sufficient cause to say the left side of the equation can never be an integer, let alone 0.
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JP05
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What you are saying makes sense but that is how I got it.
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Michael Dagg
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Re: Integer Polynomial
« Reply #4 on: Aug 10th, 2006, 5:23pm » |
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pi * pi = K^2 sqrt(2)/R + N/R says that pi would lie in the ring Q( sqrt(2) ) and hence would satisfy a quadratic polynomial with integer coefficients. Well, it doesn't. You could get away with merely knowing that pi is not constructible this way (i.e. lying in a chain of quadratic extensions of Q), which is equivalent to the question of whether one can "square the circle"; but as far as I know there is no easy proof of that either. You could try to prove only the very weak claim that pi is not in this quadratic extension field Q( sqrt(2) ). Since this claim is weaker than the other two, it might have an easier proof. But I don't know of any. I recall another problem in this forum much like this one and is in fact equivalent to it.
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« Last Edit: Aug 10th, 2006, 5:38pm by Michael Dagg » |
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