wu :: forums
« wu :: forums - A Characterization of finite fields? »

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 24th, 2024, 9:34am

RIDDLES SITE WRITE MATH! Home Home Help Help Search Search Members Members Login Login Register Register
   wu :: forums
   riddles
   putnam exam (pure math)
(Moderators: towr, Eigenray, Icarus, Grimbal, SMQ, william wu)
   A Characterization of finite fields?
« Previous topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: A Characterization of finite fields?  (Read 655 times)
ecoist
Senior Riddler
****





   


Gender: male
Posts: 405
A Characterization of finite fields?  
« on: Jun 2nd, 2006, 9:25pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Let R be a ring with the property that every function f from R into R is a polynomial of the form f(x)=a0+a1x1+...+anxn, where n is some nonnegative integer and the ai, for i=0,...,n, are elements of R.  When n=0, we mean the constant function f(x)=a0.  Must R be a finite field?
 
IP Logged
Eigenray
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****






   


Gender: male
Posts: 1948
Re: A Characterization of finite fields?  
« Reply #1 on: Jun 3rd, 2006, 3:56pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Yep yep.
hidden:
First off, there are |R||R| > |R| functions from R->R, and only |R|+|R|2+... = |R| + aleph0 polynomials, so R is finite.
 
Second, let x be any non-zero element of R, and let f be a function with f(0)=1, f(x)=0.  Then if f is a polynomial, we have
1 = -(a1+a2x+...+anxn-1)x,
so every non-zero element has a left inverse.  It follows every element has a right inverse: if yx=1, and zy=1, then x = zyx = z, so y is also the right inverse of x.  So R is a division ring.
 
By Wedderburn's theorem, R is a field.
IP Logged
ecoist
Senior Riddler
****





   


Gender: male
Posts: 405
Re: A Characterization of finite fields?  
« Reply #2 on: Jun 3rd, 2006, 4:13pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Nice.  But why does R have a multiplicative identity?
IP Logged
ecoist
Senior Riddler
****





   


Gender: male
Posts: 405
Re: A Characterization of finite fields?  
« Reply #3 on: Jun 11th, 2006, 7:49pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Hey, Eigenray!  Are you aware that your proof is not complete?  After 8 days I found a tortured proof that R has a multiplicative identity (which you assumed in your proof), but I'm sure you have a better solution.
IP Logged
Eigenray
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****






   


Gender: male
Posts: 1948
Re: A Characterization of finite fields?  
« Reply #4 on: Jun 12th, 2006, 9:25am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Jun 11th, 2006, 7:49pm, ecoist wrote:
I'm sure you have a better solution.

R has a multiplicative identity because that's part of my definition of ring. Smiley  (At least I didn't assume it was commutative!)  Sorry to disappoint you.
IP Logged
ecoist
Senior Riddler
****





   


Gender: male
Posts: 405
Re: A Characterization of finite fields?  
« Reply #5 on: Jun 12th, 2006, 2:40pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

That is disappointing.  I'm still recovering from your stunning proof for the Classroom Dilemma problem.  I'd hate to have to complete your lovely proof of this problem with my pitiful argument.
IP Logged
Michael Dagg
Senior Riddler
****






   


Gender: male
Posts: 500
Re: A Characterization of finite fields?  
« Reply #6 on: Jun 12th, 2006, 3:11pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Jun 12th, 2006, 2:40pm, ecoist wrote:
...your stunning proof for the Classroom Dilemma problem.

 
I second that!
IP Logged

Regards,
Michael Dagg
ecoist
Senior Riddler
****





   


Gender: male
Posts: 405
Re: A Characterization of finite fields?  
« Reply #7 on: Jun 20th, 2006, 6:55pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Ok, here is my proof R has a multiplicative identity.
 
Let R* be the set of nonzero elements of R.  Using Eigenray's trick, if r and s are any elements of R* then there exists an element x in R* such that xr=s.  Hence right multiplication by r is a mapping from R* onto R*, whence the mapping is a permutation of R*, and also of R since 0r=0.  Since R* is finite, some finite power of this mapping is the identity map, whence e=rk is a right identity for R, for some positive integer k.
 
(At this point I had hoped that this was enough to show that R* is a group, but the following semigroup is a counterexample.
 
. | a b c
---------
a | a a a
b | b b b
c | c c c
 
So I have more work to do.)
 
To show that e is also a left identity, and thus an identity for R, let r be any element of R* and form er-r.  Then
 
e(er-r)=eer-er=er-er=0.
 
If er-r is not 0, then, since 0(er-r)=e(er-r)=0 and e is not 0, it follows that right multiplication by er-r is not 1-1, a contradiction.  Hence er=r and e is an identity for R.  The gap in Eigenray's proof is now filled.
IP Logged
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

« Previous topic | Next topic »

Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.4!
Forum software copyright © 2000-2004 Yet another Bulletin Board