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« on: Jun 1st, 2012, 10:20am »
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How to prove without using calculus
 
log x <= sqrt (x) for all natural x?
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How do you define log x without using calculus?
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on Jun 1st, 2012, 11:03am, pex wrote:
How do you define log x without using calculus?

 
If log x^2  <= sqrt(x^2) then 2*log x  <= x
for x positive integer
 
As for the problem, I thought perhaps we could use induction. Not sure how. I need some help.
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on Jun 1st, 2012, 11:49am, Christine wrote:
If log x^2  <= sqrt(x^2) then 2*log x  <= x
for x positive integer
 
As for the problem, I thought perhaps we could use induction. Not sure how. I need some help.

Let me rephrase. Which properties of the logarithm can we use? For example, you're using log x2 = 2 log x, but I think we need calculus to prove that property.
 
So what I meant to ask was, which definition of the logarithm are you using? Which properties we can use, will follow from that.
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