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An identity with stirling numbers  
« on: Jul 9th, 2009, 10:49am »
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If S(n,k) is a stirling number of second kind, prove/disprove that
 
Sum {k = 0 to n} (-1)k * k! * S(n,k) = (-1)n
 
 
Stirling number of second kind:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_numbers_of_the_second_kind
 
S(n,k) is basically the number of ways to partition an n element set into k non-empty subsets.
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Re: An identity with stirling numbers  
« Reply #1 on: Jul 9th, 2009, 2:56pm »
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Sum {k = 0 to n} (-1)k * s(n,k) = (-1)n * n!   Wink
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Re: An identity with stirling numbers  
« Reply #2 on: Jul 9th, 2009, 3:10pm »
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Don't you just plug x = -1 into the generating function on the wikipedia page?
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Re: An identity with stirling numbers  
« Reply #3 on: Jul 9th, 2009, 3:44pm »
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on Jul 9th, 2009, 3:10pm, Obob wrote:
Don't you just plug x = -1 into the generating function on the wikipedia page?

 
Err, yes... I only intended it as a reference to the definition and maybe some insight. If you use something there, maybe you should prove it too  Tongue
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Re: An identity with stirling numbers  
« Reply #4 on: Jul 9th, 2009, 3:45pm »
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on Jul 9th, 2009, 2:56pm, Eigenray wrote:
Sum {k = 0 to n} (-1)k * s(n,k) = (-1)n * n!   Wink

 
[EDIT]I don't understand...[/EDIT]
 
Ahh... Now I do! You have s(n,k), not S(n,k).
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Re: An identity with stirling numbers  
« Reply #5 on: Jul 11th, 2009, 7:35pm »
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S(n,k) (x)k = xn
The number of surjective functions f : N K is S(n,k) k!, since we can partition N by which elements map to 1,2,..,k.  So the number of functions f : N X with an image of size k is S(n,k) k! C(x,k) = S(n,k) (x)k.  Summing over all k, we get all xn functions.  Now just let x = -1 in the above argument Wink
 
What I was hinting at before is to consider the Stirling numbers of the first kind, s(n,k) = (-1)n-k c(n,k), where c(n,k) is the number of n-element permutations with k cycles.  These numbers satisfy the inverse relationship:
s(n,k) xk = (x)n.
This means that (s(i,j)) and (S(i,j)) are precisely the matrices to change between the bases {xn} and {(x)n} of the space of polynomials, and are therefore inverses of each other.
So
S(n,k) (-1)k k! = (-1)n
is equivalent to
(-1)k k! = s(k,n) (-1)n,
which is obvious.
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Re: An identity with stirling numbers  
« Reply #6 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 8:09pm »
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Hello!
This result is included in the paper (free)
A series transformation formula and related polynomials
 
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijmms/2005/792107.cta.html
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