wu :: forums
« wu :: forums - Dividing a Ranch »

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 24th, 2024, 10:45pm

RIDDLES SITE WRITE MATH! Home Home Help Help Search Search Members Members Login Login Register Register
   wu :: forums
   riddles
   medium
(Moderators: Grimbal, ThudnBlunder, Icarus, towr, william wu, SMQ, Eigenray)
   Dividing a Ranch
« Previous topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: Dividing a Ranch  (Read 665 times)
ThudnBlunder
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****




The dewdrop slides into the shining Sea

   


Gender: male
Posts: 4489
Dividing a Ranch  
« on: Feb 17th, 2009, 2:29am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

A rancher left a rather unusual will. Most of his estate went to his widow, but he stipulated that each of his four sons could take an exactly square plot of land if the dimensions fulfilled the following conditions. The area of Jeb's plot expressed in square miles must equal the length of Harry’s plot in miles, plus two. Similarly, Tony’s area must equal a side of Jeb’s area, plus two. Also, Harry’s area added to the length of Bob’s plot must equal two, and likewise Bob’s area plus the length of Tom’s plot must equal two.  
 
What was the sons’ settlement?
 
IP Logged

THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH.....................................................................er, if that's all right with the rest of you.
Grimbal
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****






   


Gender: male
Posts: 7527
Re: Dividing a Ranch  
« Reply #1 on: Feb 17th, 2009, 2:38am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Easy, just solve the polynomial of degree 16.  Roll Eyes
IP Logged
towr
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****



Some people are average, some are just mean.

   


Gender: male
Posts: 13730
Re: Dividing a Ranch  
« Reply #2 on: Feb 17th, 2009, 3:25am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

If all lengths have to be integer, then I don't see how there's a solution.
 
"Harry’s area added to the length of Bob’s plot must equal two"
h^2+b=2 -> h=b=1
 
"The area of Jeb's plot expressed in square miles must equal the length of Harry’s plot in miles, plus two"
j^2=h+2
j^2=3 -> !j
IP Logged

Wikipedia, Google, Mathworld, Integer sequence DB
Grimbal
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****






   


Gender: male
Posts: 7527
Re: Dividing a Ranch  
« Reply #3 on: Feb 17th, 2009, 5:05am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Well, I solved it numerically, then I googled the numerical value and found that
j = 2·cos(2pi/15) = 1.827090915
« Last Edit: Feb 17th, 2009, 5:05am by Grimbal » IP Logged
pex
Uberpuzzler
*****





   


Gender: male
Posts: 880
Re: Dividing a Ranch  
« Reply #4 on: Feb 17th, 2009, 5:58am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Feb 17th, 2009, 5:05am, Grimbal wrote:
Well, I solved it numerically, then I googled the numerical value and found that
j = 2·cos(2pi/15) = 1.827090915

Interesting! That implies that
t = 2*cos(1*pi/15)
 j = 2*cos(2*pi/15)
h = 2*cos(4*pi/15)
b = 2*cos(7*pi/15)
IP Logged
pex
Uberpuzzler
*****





   


Gender: male
Posts: 880
Re: Dividing a Ranch  
« Reply #5 on: Feb 17th, 2009, 7:13am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

This solution actually suggests a solution method. Roll Eyes
hidden:
The constraints can be summarized as follows:
h = j2 - 2
b = 2 - h2
t = 2 - b2
j = t2 - 2
 
If we make the substitution j = 2*cos(a), we find h = 4*cos2(a) - 2 = 2*[2*cos2(a) - 1] = 2*cos(2a). Continuing in this manner,
j = 2*cos(a)
h = 2*cos(2a)
b = -2*cos(4a)
t = -2*cos(8a)
j = 2*cos(16a)
 
Thus, we are looking for a solution to cos(a) = cos(16a). Restricting to 0 < a < pi (which is without loss of generality), the only interval in which j, h, b, and t are all positive is pi/8 < a < 3*pi/16.
 
The equation cos(a) = cos(16a) has only one solution in this interval. How to find it? Note that it is obvious that a = 2*pi/15 solves the equation, because then 16a = 15a + a = 2*pi + a. We happen to be lucky: pi/8 < 2*pi/15 < 3*pi/16.
 
Thus, the only solution is as follows:
j = 2*cos(2*pi/15) ~ 1.8271
h = 2*cos(4*pi/15) ~ 1.3383
b = -2*cos(8*pi/15) = 2*cos(7*pi/15) ~ 0.2091
t = -2*cos(16*pi/15) = 2*cos(pi/15) ~ 1.9563
IP Logged
ThudnBlunder
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****




The dewdrop slides into the shining Sea

   


Gender: male
Posts: 4489
Re: Dividing a Ranch  
« Reply #6 on: Feb 18th, 2009, 4:39am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

That's the solution I had in mind, pex.  Wink  
 
on Feb 17th, 2009, 5:05am, Grimbal wrote:
Well, I solved it numerically, then I googled the numerical value and found that
j = 2·cos(2pi/15) = 1.827090915

One can only marvel in awe at the many serpentine roads to mathematical truth.  Roll Eyes
IP Logged

THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH.....................................................................er, if that's all right with the rest of you.
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

« Previous topic | Next topic »

Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.4!
Forum software copyright © 2000-2004 Yet another Bulletin Board