wu :: forums
« wu :: forums - Wagon Wheel »

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 25th, 2024, 2:29am

RIDDLES SITE WRITE MATH! Home Home Help Help Search Search Members Members Login Login Register Register
   wu :: forums
   riddles
   medium
(Moderators: SMQ, william wu, ThudnBlunder, Grimbal, Eigenray, towr, Icarus)
   Wagon Wheel
« Previous topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: Wagon Wheel  (Read 521 times)
ThudnBlunder
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****




The dewdrop slides into the shining Sea

   


Gender: male
Posts: 4489
Wagon Wheel  
« on: Jul 8th, 2008, 3:22am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

A wagon wheel of radius R is thickly coated with mud and the rim, which moves at a constant speed of v, is continually throwing off mud from every point. Can you help the passengers find out what is the maximum height above the ground reached by the mud?
IP Logged

THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH.....................................................................er, if that's all right with the rest of you.
towr
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****



Some people are average, some are just mean.

   


Gender: male
Posts: 13730
Re: Wagon Wheel  
« Reply #1 on: Jul 8th, 2008, 4:32am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I seem to have a bit of a problem with low speeds, but

The height for the radial angle at which the mud flies off is
R + R sin(t) + 1/2 cos2(t) v2/g
Differentiating, I get
R cos(t) - cos(t)sin(t) v2/g  
So we have optima at
cos(t)=0    and    Rg/ v^2 = sin(t)
So either the maximum is 2R, or  
R + R2 g / v2 + cos2(arcsin(Rg/v2)) v2/(2g) =
R + R2g/v2 + (1-(Rg/v2)2) v2/(2g) =
R + R2g/v2 + (1-R2g2/v4) v2/(2g) =
R + v2/(2g) + 1/2 R2g/v2 =
(gR + v2)2/(2gv2)  
 
Of course, I've got a bit of a problem there with height going to infinity when speed goes to zero. But the other end of the curve works out, I think.
« Last Edit: Jul 8th, 2008, 4:36am by towr » IP Logged

Wikipedia, Google, Mathworld, Integer sequence DB
Eigenray
wu::riddles Moderator
Uberpuzzler
*****






   


Gender: male
Posts: 1948
Re: Wagon Wheel  
« Reply #2 on: Jul 8th, 2008, 5:23am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

The behavior changes when v2 < gR: you're never going to do any better than 2R.  But otherwise, yeah, what towr said.  Note that the best mud reaches exactly g/(22) higher than the mud that flies off vertically.
« Last Edit: Jul 8th, 2008, 5:31am by Eigenray » IP Logged
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

« Previous topic | Next topic »

Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.4!
Forum software copyright © 2000-2004 Yet another Bulletin Board