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find x  
« on: Feb 29th, 2008, 12:22pm »
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x is acute angle and
 
sin 5x sin 4x=sin 3x sin 8x
 
find x
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Re: find x  
« Reply #1 on: Mar 3rd, 2008, 1:58am »
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45?
 
... and also 10,50.
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 3:34am »
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Of course making sin 4x=sin 8x=0 is the easiest. (pi/4) the other solutions are pi/18, 5pi/18 and 7pi/18, but I obtained them by observing computed graph ... So pi/36*(2,9,10,14) ... 10,45,50,70 degrees
 
Is there a systematic approach? ... Polynomial in sin x?
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 4:51am »
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Not sure if there is a systematic approach, but the following works for given equation:
 

 
if sin 4x = 0, then the equality is satisfied. (x = 45 degrees)
 
Assume sin 4x is non zero.
 
Then we have
 
sin5x sin4x = sin3x * 2* sin4x * cos4x
 
Thus sin 5x = 2 * sin 3x * cos 4x
 
Now 2 sin A cos B = sin (A+B) + sin (A-B)
 
So
 
sin 5x  = sin 7x - sin x
 
Thus sin x = sin 7x - sin 5x
 
Now sinA - sin B = 2 cos (A/2+B/2) sin (A/2 - B/2)
 
Thus  
 
sin x = 2 cos 6x  sin x
 
Since sin x is non-zero for acute x, we get
 
cos 6x = 1/2 whose solutions are 10, 50, 70 degrees.
 
All we now have to do is check is if they satisfy the original...(in fact we don't have to, as we can justify that we have been making equivalent transformations)
 
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 6:53am »
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Smiley Well done ... I have reduced sin 4x case and got to find root of polynomial in odd powers of sin x and cos ^2 x ... in odd powers of sin x. As sin x <> 0 I divided it by sin x and got a polynomial in sin ^2 x. (Actually in (2 sin x)^2.)
This was cubic polynomial ... your solution was better.
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 10:23am »
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Another approach, which requires a bit less ingenuity: write z = eix.  Then zn = cos(nx) + i sin(nx), so
 
cos(nx) = Re[zn] = (zn + 1/zn)/2,
sin(nx) = Im[zn] = (zn - 1/zn)/2i.
 
From sin(5x) = 2 sin(3x) cos(4x), we get
 
(z5 - 1/z5)/(2i) = 2 (z3-1/z3)/(2i)  (z4+1/z4)/2,
 
or multiplying by 2i*z7,
 
z12 - z2 = (z6 - 1)(z8 + 1).
 
We know that both sides are 0 when x=0,, which correspond to z=1, so dividing both sides by z2-1, we get
 
z2(z8+z6+z4+z2+1) = (z4+z2+1)(z8+1),
 
or
 
z12 - z6 + 1 = 0,
 
i.e., z6 = (1i3)/2 = e2i/6, and x = (2i/6 + 2k)/6.  Or, z6 is a primitive 6-th root of unity, so z is a primitive 36-th root of unity: x = 2k/36, where k is relatively prime to 36.  These are the solutions with sin(4x) 0.
 
 
The original equation sin5x sin4x - sin3x sin8x = 0 is equivalent to
 
(z5-1/z5)(z4-1/z4) - (z3-1/z3)(z8-1/z8)
 
being 0, which factors as
 
(z-1)2(z+1)2(z2+1)(z4+1) (z12-z6+1)
 = (z2-1)(z8-1)(z12-z6+1) =  
 = [12][1248]36
 
where n is the n-th cyclotomic polynomial.  This means that z is either a 1st, 2nd, 4th, 8th, or 36th root of unity, where the 1st and 2nd roots of unity (z=1, i.e., sin x=0) have multiplicity 2 (since (sin x)2 divides both sides).  Note that the roots of (z2-1) correspond to sinx=0, and the roots of (z8-1) (which include those of z2-1) correspond to sin4x=0.
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