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prove  sec40° + sec80° + sec160° =6  
« on: Aug 4th, 2007, 9:35am »
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prove
sec40° + sec80° + sec160° =6
 
// title changed --towr  
(I'm not good at coming up with titles either, but when the entire problem statement fits there, why not!)
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Re: prove  
« Reply #1 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 2:01am »
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At the outset, I would like to state that I found the fundamental tenets inclusive of the problem problem very interesting and I am positing a proposed solution in my subsequent post.
 
However, the problem title appears to be a duplication of a title corresponding to a previous contribution by the same author . In my opinion this is at direct variance with the provisions governing the website.
 
Accordingly, I would request for moderator intervention to change the problem title.  
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Re: prove  
« Reply #2 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 2:03am »
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Method 1:
 
Substituting h = 40o, 80o, 160o in turn, we observe that:
cos 3h =-1/2, for each of the foregoing values, and accordingly:
8 cos3h – 6 cos h + 1 =0
 
Therefore, cos 40, cos 80 and cos 160 are the roots of the cubic equation  
8 y3 – 6 y + 1 =0; for y = cos h and so,  their respective reciprocals sec 40, sec 80 and sec 160 correspond to the roots of the cubic equation :
y3 – 6y + 8 = 0, and  therefore:
The sum of the roots of the cubic is 6.
 
Consequently:
[EDIT] sec 40o + sec 80o + sec 160o = 6
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Re: prove  
« Reply #3 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 4:19am »
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on Aug 5th, 2007, 2:01am, K Sengupta wrote:
However, the problem title appears to be a duplication of a title corresponding to a previous contribution by the same author . In my opinion this is at direct variance with the provisions governing the website.
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Yes, it has happened more than once.
 
As for the problem, it would be more interesting and harder if he asked to solve secx + sec2x + sec4x = 6
 
The above property of /9 is not on Mathworld (although Morrie's Law is).
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 5:02am »
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Cute problem.
 
on Aug 5th, 2007, 4:19am, ThudanBlunder wrote:

As for the problem, it would be more interesting and harder if he asked to solve secx + sec2x + sec4x = 6

 
Thinking about it, I'd like the formulation:
 
Prove that the three numbers cos40°, cos80° and cos160° have arithmetic mean 0, harmonic mean 1/2 and geometric mean -1/2.
 
 
 
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xy - y = x5 - y4 - y3 = 20; x>0, y>0.
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Re: prove  sec40° + sec80° + sec160° =6  
« Reply #5 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 2:28pm »
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K Sengupta
 
Method 1:  
 
i think its rong
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cos 40 + cos 80 + cos 160  not= 6
 
the problem is
 sec40° + sec80° + sec160° =6
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Re: prove  sec40° + sec80° + sec160° =6  
« Reply #6 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 2:44pm »
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on Aug 5th, 2007, 2:28pm, tony123 wrote:
K Sengupta
 
Method 1:  
 
i think its rong

 
Actualy, Sengupta is right: the stated follows from applying Viete's formulas to the cubic equation in cos(x) resulting from expressing 2cos(3x)+1=0 in terms of cos(x). It's just that in the very last line of his post a triple typo ('cos' instead of 'sec') pops up.
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Re: prove  sec40° + sec80° + sec160° =6  
« Reply #7 on: Aug 6th, 2007, 8:32am »
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on Aug 5th, 2007, 2:44pm, JocK wrote:

 
 It's just that in the very last line of his post a triple typo ('cos' instead of 'sec') pops up.

 
True.
 
I was careless and made the typo of triple cos instead of sec.
 
I confirm having corrected the foregoing anomaly.
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Re: prove  sec40° + sec80° + sec160° =6  
« Reply #8 on: Aug 6th, 2007, 8:56am »
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I furnish hereunder, a second proposed method giving the solution to the problem.
 
I am not certain if this corresponds to the author's official solution.
 
Method 2
sec 40 + sec 80 + sec 160
 
= (cos 40 + cos 80)/(cos 40*cos80)  +  1/(cos 160)
 
= (2*cos 60*cos 20)/(cos 40*cos 80)  +  1/ (cos 160)
 
= (cos  20*cos 160 + cos 40*cos 80)/(cos 40*cos 80*cos 160)
 
= (cos 180 + cos 140 + cos 120 + cos 40)/ {cos 40*(cos 240 + cos 80)}
 
= (-1 - 1/2)/{(1/2)(-cos 40 + cos 120 + cos 40)}
 
= (-3/2)/(-1/4)
 
= 6
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