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ThudnBlunder
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Round-robin Tournament
« on: Jul 18th, 2007, 2:35pm » |
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Jill plays in an all-play-all (once) tournament. In each game, a player earns 2 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, and none for a loss. After the tournament Jill tells Jack (who was not there) how many points she earned. If Jill scored m points and there were n players in the tournament (including Jill), find in terms of n and k the smallest value of m such that Jack can deduce that Jill scored more points than at least k other competitors.
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ThudnBlunder
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Re: Round-robin Tournament
« Reply #1 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 2:34pm » |
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Numerical example: let there are 12 players in the tournament, including Jill. Prove that Jill must have earned at least 19 points if Jack can deduce that Jill scored more points than at least 8 other competitors.
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Re: Round-robin Tournament
« Reply #2 on: Jul 19th, 2007, 2:58pm » |
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I'll go with m=(n*(n-1) -k*(k-1))/(n-k) for now. To get as few people she beats as possible, you try to get as many as possible with the same score. But the 'loser section' can't have no points: they can't always lose, they play each other as well. k losers have at least k*(k-1) points together.
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Re: Round-robin Tournament
« Reply #3 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 7:19pm » |
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Your expression simplifies to n+k-1, which is correct. However, for a rigorous proof we must show that it is possible for Jill to score n+k-2 points while beating at most k-1 other competitors, and also that if Jill scores n+k-1 points then she must have scored more points than at least k other competitors.
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