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« on: Jun 27th, 2007, 5:37pm »
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x+y+z=1
x^2+y^2+z^2=21
x^3+y^3+z^3=55
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 27th, 2007, 10:31pm »
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er... are we doing your homework?
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 4:51am »
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With the simple assumption that x, y, z are integers, it becomes quite easy.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 6:34pm »
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(x, y, z) = (-1, 4, -2); (-1, 2, -4);  (-2, -1, 4); (-2, 4, -1); (4, -1, -2), (4, -2, -1) gives all possible solutions to the problem under reference
 
 
EXPLANATION:
 
For the sake of simplicity, let us take (m, n) = (xy+yz+ zx, xyz)
 
Then, m = (1-21)/2 = -10
 
Also, 55- 3n = (1)*(21+10), giving: n = 8
 
But, xy+yz+zx = -10
 
Or, 8/x + x(1-x) = -10
 
Or, 8+ x^2 – x^3 = -10x
 
Or, x^3-x^2-10x – 8 = 0
 
or, (x+1)(x+2)(x-4) = 0
 
Or, x = -1, -2, 4
 
Substituting x=-1, we obtain (y+z, yz) = (2, -8) giving: (y, z) = (4, -2); (2, -4)
 
Similarly, for x=-2, we get (y, z) = (-1, 4); (4, -1)
 
For, x = 4, we obtain: (y, z) = (-1, -2); (-2, -1)
 
Thus, (x, y, z) = (-1, 4, -2); (-1, 2, -4);  (-2, -1, 4); (-2, 4, -1); (4, -1, -2); (4, -2, -1) gives all possible solutions to the problem under reference.

 
** In my opinion the fundamental tenets inclusive of the puzzle under reference are rather simple, and accordingly, this problem should have been posted in the "Easy" Forum.
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 28th, 2007, 6:46pm »
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on Jun 28th, 2007, 4:51am, Grimbal wrote:
With the simple assumption that x, y, z are integers, it becomes quite easy.

 
True.
 
In conformity with the previous post:
xyz = 8 and by conditions of the problem x+y+z =1; x^2+ y^2+ z^2 = 21
 
Since we know that the factors of 8 are -1, -2, -4, -8, 1, 2, 4, 8; the problem reduces to determining just three of the factors that sum to 1 and whose sum of squares is 21.
 
So, by a little trial and error,  
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(x, y, z) = (-1, 4, -2); (-1, 2, -4);  (-2, -1, 4); (-2, 4, -1); (4, -1, -2); (4, -2, -1)
corresponds to all possible solutions to the given problem.
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