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Number sequence  
« on: Jan 14th, 2005, 8:28pm »
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As Indiana Jones explored yet another dangerous cave, he stumbled himself on a door with numbers engraved on it.
 
The first one was simply "9". The next, "19". Then, "1,119", "3,119", and "132,119".  
 
He deduced that to advance he must figure out the next number in the sequence
 
Can you help Indy figure out the next number?
 
I'll post some follow-up riddles if you guys manage to crack this one.   Grin
 
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Re: Number sequence  
« Reply #1 on: Jan 14th, 2005, 11:14pm »
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: 1113122119
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Re: Number sequence  
« Reply #2 on: Jan 15th, 2005, 3:51am »
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on Jan 14th, 2005, 8:28pm, Thomson wrote:
I'll post some follow-up riddles if you guys manage to crack this one.   Grin

You're not gonne ask us about the asymptotic rate of growth of the number of digits in the n-th term, and finding a link to the polynomial
 
x^71 - x^69 - 2*x^68 - x^67 + 2*x^66 + 2*x^65 + x^64 - x^63 - x^62 - x^61 - x^60 - x^59 + 2*x^58 + 5*x^57 + 3*x^56 - 2*x^55 - 10*x^54 - 3*x^53 - 2*x^52 + 6*x^51 + 6*x^50 + x^49 + 9*x^48 - 3*x^47 - 7*x^46 - 8*x^45 - 8*x^44 + 10*x^43 + 6*x^42 + 8*x^41 - 5*x^40 - 12*x^39 + 7*x^38 - 7*x^37 + 7*x^36 + x^35 - 3*x^34 + 10*x^33 + x^32 - 6*x^31 - 2*x^30 - 10*x^29 - 3*x^28 + 2*x^27 + 9*x^26 - 3*x^25 + 14*x^24 - 8*x^23 - 7*x^21 + 9*x^20 + 3*x^19 - 4*x^18 - 10*x^17 - 7*x^16 + 12*x^15 + 7*x^14 + 2*x^13 - 12*x^12 - 4* x^11 - 2*x^10 + 5*x^9 + x^7 - 7*x^6 + 7*x^5 - 4*x^4 + 12*x^3 - 6*x^2 + 3*x - 6
 
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 15th, 2005, 3:34pm »
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Has this riddle been put up before? o.o
 
Jock that was one of the questions....Heres some more.   Cheesy
 
For those who've answered the riddle
 
 
Follow-up 1
 
After hearing the story of Indy Dr.Karl asked himself "Instead of taking a single digit at a time, What if you look at the whole group of numbers, take an exhaustive view and say the total of each?"
 
132,119 -- would normally become --> 1,113,122,119
 
132,119 -- would now be ---->31,131,219 --->23,411,219
 
23,411,219 ->2,213,142,119 ->3,241,131,419 --->
2,312,244,119---> 3213312419 ->3322311419 ->3322311419
-->3322311419
 
After numerous testings he concluded that all numbers, end in a cycle(meaning they repeat the same numbers(or group of numbers over and over again).
 
ex. 9 ends in the cycle  3322311419 ->3322311419
     
He assumed that all numbers will eventually give a number in which
 
Number x ->Number a -> number a  
Number x ->Number a -> number b -> number a
Number x -> number a -> number b -> number c -> number a
 
etc. etc.
 
Can you prove or disprove this?  
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 16th, 2005, 7:29am »
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on Jan 15th, 2005, 3:34pm, Thomson wrote:
Can you prove or disprove this?
Prove what? That it cycles or ends? ::Each string of numbers is at most 20 digits long (less actually). Each string maps to only one other. So at most we can go through 10^20 different ones before we have to repeat. Thus either we encounter a cycle, or we end up repeating the same string (which is a cycle of length one)::
 
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Has this riddle been put up before? o.o
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Well, yes, kind of, a very similar one at least.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 16th, 2005, 8:41am »
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Alternative answer to Thud&Blunder's
:: 31131219
This assumes we are stating how many of each digit appears in the previous, starting with the first digit without differentiating the order of duplicated digits.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 16th, 2005, 8:44am »
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Yes, and my previous post links to it.
 
on Jan 16th, 2005, 8:41am, Nigel_Parsons wrote:
Alternative answer to Thud&Blunder's...This assumes we are stating how many of each digit appears in the previous, starting with the first digit without differentiating the order of duplicated digits

Sorry, I don't understand this.
 
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