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wu :: forums    riddles    general problem-solving / chatting / whatever (Moderators: william wu, ThudnBlunder, Icarus, towr, Eigenray, SMQ, Grimbal)    when is it ok to lie? « Previous topic | Next topic » Pages: 1  Reply Notify of replies Send Topic Print    Author  Topic: when is it ok to lie?  (Read 565 times) amichail Senior Riddler     Posts: 450 when is it ok to lie?   « on: Sep 15th, 2006, 1:21am » Quote Modify Hi,   It is sometimes useful for a computer application to lie.   For example, the ESP game uses prerecorded play sometimes when there are few players and also to prevent cheating.  See http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~biglou/ESP.pdf.   If someone is working on a social web app, then creating fake data to make the site look busy will attract more users.  The fake data could then gradually go away when the site becomes sufficiently popular.   Is this unethical? Would it be better if the app told you that it may lie at various points?  Is it then acceptable?   Amir IP Logged DropZap - a new kind of block elimination game towr wu::riddles Moderator Uberpuzzler Some people are average, some are just mean.     Gender: Posts: 13730 Re: when is it ok to lie?   « Reply #1 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 3:25am » Quote Modify Is it a lie, or just omitting the truth? Any examples of actual malicious deception? IP Logged Wikipedia, Google, Mathworld, Integer sequence DB amichail Senior Riddler     Posts: 450 Re: when is it ok to lie?   « Reply #2 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 3:27am » Quote Modify on Sep 15th, 2006, 3:25am, towr wrote: Is it a lie, or just omitting the truth? Any examples of actual malicious deception? If you look at the esp game, I think there is a clear expection that you will be playing with another player live, not through a prerecorded session:   http://espgame.org   IP Logged DropZap - a new kind of block elimination game Icarus wu::riddles Moderator Uberpuzzler Boldly going where even angels fear to tread.     Gender: Posts: 4863 Re: when is it ok to lie?   « Reply #3 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 3:02pm » Quote Modify My personal standard is lying is wrong when it is to someone else's detriment or strictly for my personal advantage.   How that applies here, I'm not sure. IP Logged "Pi goes on and on and on ... And e is just as cursed. I wonder: Which is larger When their digits are reversed? " - Anonymous amichail Senior Riddler     Posts: 450 Re: when is it ok to lie?   « Reply #4 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 6:18am » Quote Modify Maybe lying can be considered a resource just like time and space. And just like time and space, you could provide lower and upper bounds on this resource for your programs. IP Logged DropZap - a new kind of block elimination game Pages: 1  Reply Notify of replies Send Topic Print Forum Jump: ----------------------------- riddles -----------------------------  - easy   - medium   - hard   - what am i   - what happened   - microsoft   - cs   - putnam exam (pure math)   - suggestions, help, and FAQ => general problem-solving / chatting / whatever ----------------------------- general -----------------------------  - guestbook   - truth   - complex analysis   - wanted   - psychology   - chinese « Previous topic | Next topic »

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