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Job Hazards
« on: Feb 15th, 2016, 6:13pm » |
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Statistically, what is the most hazardous job in the United States?
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 16th, 2016, 7:13am » |
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Suicide bomber?
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #2 on: Feb 16th, 2016, 9:35am » |
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President?
4 out of 43 Presidents have been assassinated - and another 4 died of natural causes - an 18% mortality rate is pretty high (or 9% if you don't count the natural causes).
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #3 on: Feb 18th, 2016, 11:01am » |
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Hazardous to who? To the guy that does the job, or the people affected?
Lobbyist for the coal industry, or tobacco industry might rate very high in the latter case.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #4 on: Feb 19th, 2016, 7:26am » |
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Working at McDonald's? Its customers are cheap bastards who never leave a tip.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #5 on: Feb 19th, 2016, 8:15pm » |
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President?
4 out of 43 Presidents have been assassinated - and another 4 died of natural causes - an 18% mortality rate is pretty high (or 9% if you don't count the natural causes).
Yes, being President of the United States is a very coveted position but it has its own inherent hazards. Think about this: Obama is the 44th President of the United States. Of these 44, four presidents have been assassinated so that makes it a 9.32% violent mortality incidence among presidents. (If we accept as true the strong rumors that the deaths of Zachary Taylor and Warren Harding were not due to natural causes, the mortality incidence climbs to 13.9%) But if we add to these six deaths the seventeen attempted presidential assassinations then the hazard incidence is 47.72%. This means that an American President has almost a 50-50 chance of being attacked with the intention of murder. Just ask Obama why he ordered his monster Cadillac Limo, fondly nicknamed, “The Beast”, to have the thickest glass and panels ever built into a vehicle.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #6 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 9:24am » |
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on Feb 19th, 2016, 8:15pm, Lupin wrote:| Obama is the 44th President of the United States. |
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According to my research, Obama's is the 44th Presidency, but he's only the 43rd person to hold the office - one President had non-consecutive terms.
You could also break it down in terms of person-years (same numerically as years in this case) - I don't know the average number of years spent doing the same job - aside from anything else, it depends what you count as changing jobs - which could be anything from having your job description change slightly to only when you change fields - does someone who spends 30 years working for McDonalds, gradually accruing seniority and moving up to corporate management count as having changed jobs?
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #7 on: Feb 22nd, 2016, 3:30am » |
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Senator of the Roman Empire is quite dangerous too.
100% of them died.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #8 on: Feb 22nd, 2016, 8:52am » |
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on Feb 22nd, 2016, 3:30am, Grimbal wrote:Senator of the Roman Empire is quite dangerous too.
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But not many of them were working in the US at the time...
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #9 on: Feb 22nd, 2016, 10:26am » |
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How about astronaut?
Especially if you consider on-mission hours, I bet it's pretty hazardous with two space-shuttles having blown up.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #10 on: Feb 22nd, 2016, 10:33am » |
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on Feb 15th, 2016, 6:13pm, Lupin wrote:| Statistically, what is the most hazardous job in the United States? |
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I believe the most hazardous job is to be without a job.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #11 on: Mar 2nd, 2016, 8:41am » |
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Come to think of it, all jobs are most hazardous to lazy people. Then again, any job is most hazardous to crazy people as well. I myself prefer lazy people with no offense to crazy people.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #12 on: Mar 12th, 2016, 5:39am » |
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on Mar 2nd, 2016, 8:41am, alien2 wrote:| I myself prefer lazy people with no offense to crazy people. |
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Unless you are crazy because you are lazy.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #13 on: Mar 20th, 2016, 8:59pm » |
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Astronauts?
"Depending on which statistic you use (i.e. whether sub-orbital flights count), either 426 or 433 people have flown into space in the American and Russian space programs. If you add those who died before they reached space, such as the 1986 crew of the Challenger shuttle, as well as the latest Columbia astronauts (who made it to space, but weren't in the stats I found), you get up to 450 or so, depending on how you count. As of the Columbia catastrophe, 24 astronauts have died in the American program, and 10 or more (possibly quite a bit more) in the Russian/Soviet ones (some Soviet deaths may still be kept secret). So, at the very lowest end of the range, with 34 deaths out of 450 spacefarers, we have a 7.5% death rate."
This was posted by Derek Miller in 2003 penmachine.com/ How many more deaths have been reported?
BTW the new International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10) has the following codes W22.02XD: V95.43XS: Spacecraft collision injuring occupant. I believe not too many doctors are going to use these codes.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #14 on: Mar 21st, 2016, 7:02am » |
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The riddle is solved. What?
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #15 on: Mar 21st, 2016, 11:39pm » |
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Police Officer?
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #16 on: Mar 21st, 2016, 11:46pm » |
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on Mar 21st, 2016, 11:39pm, markr wrote:
Only if you are a thief.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #17 on: Apr 24th, 2016, 1:23am » |
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I don't think the riddle is solved. A death-on-the job rate of 9% is extremely low compared with many other jobs.
Huh?
As I see it, the task is to find one job that has been held by exactly one person in the States, one person who has died in the exercise of that job. Therefore, statistically (as per the problem definition), the job has a 100% mortality rate.
There should be many candidates for this answer.
Here's a good place to start looking.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #18 on: Apr 24th, 2016, 6:26am » |
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i have to agree with alien2 on this one, most fatal accidents happen in home
i think that close second would be taxi driver
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #19 on: Apr 27th, 2016, 2:51am » |
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on Apr 24th, 2016, 6:26am, riddler358 wrote:| i have to agree with alien2 on this one, most fatal accidents happen in home |
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Some women did mutilate their husbands after emancipation. It sounds logical that accidents are more likely to occur at work. However, majority of people spend most of their time at home and e.g. keeping children safe from accidents isn’t a simple task.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #20 on: Apr 27th, 2016, 1:44pm » |
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I still think that acceptable answers to "Statistically, what is the most hazardous job in the United States?" must be jobs with a 100% fatality rate, because such jobs exist. For instance:
- crew member on Challenger mission
- ... your ideas here
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #21 on: Apr 27th, 2016, 3:24pm » |
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How about army jobs then? The army can make life taker and heart breaker out of you. I know not all the circumstances but all defenders were killed at the Battle of the Alamo.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #22 on: Apr 27th, 2016, 3:54pm » |
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If there is one army job title that's had a 100% casualty rate, then definitely. I'm sure there have been jobs like that -- a position that's only been held a handful of times, always tragically.
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Re: Job Hazards
« Reply #23 on: Apr 28th, 2016, 7:34am » |
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Kamikaze.
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« Reply #24 on: Apr 28th, 2016, 9:00am » |
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on Apr 27th, 2016, 1:44pm, playful wrote:| - crew member on Challenger mission |
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I think that's cheating, because the job they signed up for was "astronaut".
It's similar to calling "being president of the united states on April 14th, 1865" a job.
Same goes for Kamikaze pilot. And arguably even suicide bombers (their "job" is terrorist, blowing themselves up is just one way that job may play out).
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